THE MAN OF STEEL Pre Release Thread - Page 8

 

CREEEEEEEPPPYYYYY

 

 

I... really doubt the contrails are there because of Iron Man. I thought they were a cool touch myself.

The contrails are there because things that go fast through the air make contrails. Movies, people.

But it requires certain aerodynamic shapes to actually make them form like that. 'Feet' are not one of those shapes. You likely also wouldn't get the convex pressure form when breaking the sound barrier with a man shaped object because, again, that happens due to aerodynamic laws that Superman's flight ignores.

I just think the two neat little contrails coming out of his feet look odd and unrealistic. I wouldn't mind some sort of lighter more generalized contrail following in his wake, but this makes him look like he has jet engines in his boots.

The name "Malick" is being tossed around to a laughable degree in this thread. If the teaser was Malick, it would be roughly one shot, two max. Just because Snyder has finally learned not to ramp up/ramp down (at least as far as the teaser is concerned) doesn't mean he's even shooting for anything close to Malick, or would know how to ape his style even if he did try. 

 

Wasn't Superman Returns serious enough for you guys? You want Superman to be more serious? Good luck. If this movie is remotely good I'll eat my hat. 

No one is saying the artsy, Malick-esque cinematography is a good thing (or even a bad thing).  It's just an observation.  Even Faraci noted it.  There is no doubt that Tree of Life influenced some of those shots, for better or worse. 

Not seeing it. And Devin isn't infallible. He's not even a fan of Malick outside of Tree of Life. 

Oh seriously?  The non traditional composition, the lingering loving shots of nature set to raspy introspective voice over?  Surely you can at least understand why the comparisons are made even if you don't agree.

Didn't say he was dude. (ahem) Just an observation. 

 

 

....and with that I hate the internet.

 

Again.

Apologies if anyone has already posted this but there's a much better look at the Comic Con trailer here, for those who are interested.

 

Just admit it would have been better if they'd used the red Mighty Mouse contrail.  Admit it!

 

Seriously. Apparently we can jump through the massive mental hoops it takes to believe a humanoid alien can crash land on this planet and be gifted the powers of a god thanks to the fact we have a yellow sun (?) - but feet can't make contrails.

 

Lets get the Mythbusters on this shit and make this horrible dumb tangent FUN!

 

Also, free ice cream!

 

Are you talking about Malick or the Lord of the Rings trilogy?

It's not ALL malick, but it is much more Malick than LOTR. The intensely narrow depth-of-field, loving quiet shots of nature and everyday life, unconventional composition and focal points, shit blowing in the wind... But Malick doesn't have ownership of the style. I also see some Andrew Dominik and Michael Mann there.

If they had that many shots completed and ready to be shown for an audience of hundreds at comic con, it's a real head scratcher how they could have such a weak introduction trailer for the tens of millions seeing TDKR.

Yeah, that's a better trailer than what we actually got.

Would you agree, though,  that Malick's style is identifiable? If you watch a Malick movie, you know its his without seeing credits. Does anyone else on earth make movies like he does? You can make comparisons, but one of the reasons why he's one of the greatest living filmmakers is that his style is so unique and uniquely his own. 

Also, comparing Malick and Mann? Jesus..never thought I'd see that. Andrew Dominik, maybe, but there's something very specific about how Malick's movies look, sound and feel. That's why the comparison is so insane. No, he doesn't "own" the style, but his style is HIS style and for someone to ape it accurately, they need more than just quiet shots of nature and everyday life (which, I should point out, the Man of Steel teaser barely even has). 

I mostly got Abrams from that teaser, to be honest. The grainy home video-style shots and bombastic voice over put me in mind of his 80s Amblin-aping SUPER 8 approach.
 

I like how Snyder is aping Malick because he's finally filming some scenes that take place outside.

 

Looked pretty intriguing, but I'm skeptical of Snyder making anything that I'd want to see twice.

It's mostly the farm stuff that reminds me of Malick, but it is peppered throughout the ad. Also I don't think anyone is saying that Snyder has completely and successfully assimilated Malick's style, just that the teaser brought Malick to mind exactly because his style is so identifiable and it's so anti everything we've seen coming from Snyder thus far.

 

That didn't occur to me (no lens flares!), but I can very much see it. I think the teaser is far more Baysian and/or Abramsesque than Malickian.

Nolan and Snyder had my curiosity. Now they have my attention.

 

You got a thumbs up from me for this, but I felt like it deserved a full comment as well. I have to agree. The "this looks Malickish" argument isn't being made-- at least not by me, or by the people in this thread (because I assume people on CHUD just know better)-- to equate Snyder with Malick in terms of artistry. It's being made to illustrate some Malick influence in the meager amount of footage displayed in this trailer, and I think it's hard to ignore that influence. Honestly, I find the tone to be incredibly refreshing; it's not something that I expect from the man who burned us all out on speed ramping. So, really, that Malickish influence is a very good thing, at least for me, and certainly not a knock against Snyder at all.

I know nobody is saying Snyder = Malick. My point remains that just a few shots of nature, laundry flapping in the breeze and a somber looking bearded guy working the docks isn't enough to be evocative of Malick. The footage looks grainy and color corrected, slightly. It looks more natural than Snyder's usual stuff, but Malick's movies look lucid, his camerawork ghostly and otherworldly, floating over his characters like an unseen observer, his editing hard to pin down (often he lets shots linger, or favors jump cuts). 

See, I do get that ethereal, untethered quality from the released footage. I'm willing to admit that it's rather minor, but it feels like Malick filtered through a much more organic version of Snyder's cinema. So it's influenced footage, but that's not to say it's identical to what Malick does in, say, Days of Heaven or Tree of Life. (Though it's honestly the latter film that connects Malick's aesthetic to the Superman footage. It's probably the imagery more than anything else.)

 

Wait, does something fly off of him midway through that?  Like he just lost a shoe?

 

The red trunks.

 

 

Clears that up.

Superman was also pissed about that finale...

 

Wow, thanks for the nostalgia-bomb.

I love this teaser, even if it features a lot more fishing imagery than I expected from a Superman movie. 

If I knew last night that I was going to be reminded of Sky Captain's existence I would've taken a week's worth of valium and slept.

I KNEW that Jor-El voiceover sounded familiar. Like the sources they're pulling dialogue from, if this is any indication of the film itself then count me in.

Hmm image posting not cooperating, but here's a link:

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It's from the final pages of All-Star Superman, so mild spoilers I guess.

James

No kidding. When I saw the trailer my first thought was 'Holy shit, they're making an Aquaman movie?'

Did the comic-con footage ever turn up again?

I haven't seen it anywhere else yet.  I was really hoping after a couple weeks, they'd release it for everyone to see.

I watched the Superman Motion Picture last night for the first time in a few years and I did a complete 180 on Superman.  Maybe it's because I appreciate it as the first big origin story on film I can think of, or maybe seeing Captain America done right and liking the gee whiz of that has me feeling nostalgic, but I suddenly love Superman again after thinking he's lame and over powered for years.

I'm excited by the prospects of a DC Nation coming together with a different vibe than the Marvel Nation. I thought The Dark Knight Rises had enough of a comic book vibe that a film like it could be part of a bigger pantheon.
 

 

Netflixed it a few months ago, I was surprised how much I enjoyed it.  That score!  That 80's everything!

To be clear, I think it's good, but these people who think that movie is the best superhero movie ever made are out of their fucking minds.
 

 

Is there a good site/book/documentary on the behind the scenes stuff?  I've only heard bits and pieces.