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post #551 of 2590
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Oh come on. Would you rather he direct it or Michael Bay? I like much of Watchmen.

 

I like all of The Rock.

post #552 of 2590
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I like all of The Rock.

 

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post #554 of 2590
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I like all of The Rock.

Like that part where the back entrance of a decades old prison has several intermittently jutting gouts of flame, and Sean Connery remembers how to roll through them? That sure was awesome. 

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post #556 of 2590

For the record, Shannon has his head shaved like that for a Broadway part in "Grace" where his character is suffering through a major head injury.

post #557 of 2590

Shannon has never been pretty, but he's straight up QT in that pic. 

post #558 of 2590

Huuuge Zit! Bet he appreciated being ambushed by that happy snapper... 

 

...why is he carrying a monkey?

post #559 of 2590

Maybe he ran into David Letterman from Cabin Boy.
 

post #560 of 2590
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...why is he carrying a monkey?

 

Because he is the wrath of... Zod?

 

post #561 of 2590
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...why is he carrying a monkey?

 

the bigger rhetorical question is "Given the option, why wouldn't you carry a monkey?

post #562 of 2590
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...why is he carrying a monkey?

 

Isn't it obvious? He's not playing Zod. He's playing Beppo, the super monkey from Krypton.

 

post #563 of 2590

Maybe he's embarked on some revolutionary therapy, and only speaks through the monkey?

 

700

post #564 of 2590

...on closer examination, he looks shifty as hell. Maybe it's not even his monkey.

post #565 of 2590
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Like that part where the back entrance of a decades old prison has several intermittently jutting gouts of flame, and Sean Connery remembers how to roll through them?

Yup.
post #566 of 2590
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Like that part where the back entrance of a decades old prison has several intermittently jutting gouts of flame, and Sean Connery remembers how to roll through them? That sure was awesome. 

 

That's goofy fun!  It takes place early enough in the plot that doesn't make it feel like too much of a contrivance and it's a good character moment for Connery.

post #567 of 2590
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Oh come on. Would you rather he direct it or Michael Bay? I like much of Watchmen.
 

 

So... those were the 2 options?

post #568 of 2590
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That's goofy fun!  It takes place early enough in the plot that doesn't make it feel like too much of a contrivance and it's a good character moment for Connery.


The set design really sells it too. The bowels of 'The Rock' look suitably labyrinthine and ancient for you to buy that there could be an odd furnace of that sort.

post #569 of 2590

1000

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This may be ridiculous to speculate on this early, but I'm hoping the sequel does for Lex Luthor what The Dark Knight did for The Joker: give us a new, fresh, interesting and instantly iconic take on our hero's old arch enemy we haven't seen done a thousand times before. Plus casting an actor we'll all whine about before we see the movie and who turns out to be amazing. 

 

Oh, and give Bizarro some love! There's a character who could go from delightfully misled goon to sadly redemptive hero who sacrifices himself for the greater good. 

post #571 of 2590

The greater good.

post #572 of 2590
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\Oh, and give Bizarro some love! There's a character who could go from delightfully misled goon to sadly redemptive hero who sacrifices himself for the greater good. 

 

with Michael Shannon as Bizarro

 

post #573 of 2590

So.... anyone think Superman will be handed a Luthercorp card at the end of the movie and promise to look into it?

post #574 of 2590

I have a bad feeling that when we inevitably get Lex it'll end up being this all over again:

 

post #575 of 2590

Now this is a surprise. She's really not bad here.

 

post #576 of 2590

Is it too late to suggest a bald-headed Denzel Washington as Lex Luthor? Charisma and smiles in public, Training Day when he's alone.

post #577 of 2590
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Originally Posted by Syd View Post

This may be ridiculous to speculate on this early, but I'm hoping the sequel does for Lex Luthor what The Dark Knight did for The Joker: give us a new, fresh, interesting and instantly iconic take on our hero's old arch enemy we haven't seen done a thousand times before.

 

 

I'd love to see a take similar to the one in Lex Luthor : Man of Steel tbh

post #578 of 2590

Lex Luthor is a really fascinating character who, like many aspects of Superman, hasn't been done justice to despite being in five movies. They were determined to make him a comedic villain despite the fact he's one of the LEAST "wacky" supervillains out there. The various animated shows have done a much better job.
 

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That's goofy fun!  It takes place early enough in the plot that doesn't make it feel like too much of a contrivance and it's a good character moment for Connery.

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The set design really sells it too. The bowels of 'The Rock' look suitably labyrinthine and ancient for you to buy that there could be an odd furnace of that sort.

 

Yeah, that completely works in the film. Seriously. I still think it's Bay's best, though I have yet to see either Bad Boys movie.

post #580 of 2590
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Is it too late to suggest a bald-headed Denzel Washington as Lex Luthor? Charisma and smiles in public, Training Day when he's alone.

Now THAT'S what I'm talking about! You listening Warner Brothers? Get Denzel on the phone!

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Lex Luthor is a really fascinating character who, like many aspects of Superman, hasn't been done justice to despite being in five movies. They were determined to make him a comedic villain despite the fact he's one of the LEAST "wacky" supervillains out there. The various animated shows have done a much better job.
 

Totally and completely agree.  "When I kill Superman, they'll build statues in my honor!" Lex has always seen himself as the hero of the story, with this so called 'Super" Man nothing more than a strange alien creature who's bamboozled the public into thinking he's some kind of savior. I mean cripes folks, where's his birth certificate? 

 

Wait, maybe...maybe...

Just shave the head....

post #581 of 2590
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Is it too late to suggest a bald-headed Denzel Washington as Lex Luthor? Charisma and smiles in public, Training Day when he's alone.

That's a really inspired choice for Luthor.

post #582 of 2590

There's a rumor that Bradley Cooper shows up briefly as Luthor in Man of Steel.

post #583 of 2590

Jason Issacs would be...Super as Lex Luthor!

post #584 of 2590

Maybe - but let's save Jason Issacs.  He's the perfect Norman Osborn for the new Spider-Man series. 

 

I'm warming to the Denzel Washington as Lex idea. He can very smart and intimidating - exactly the qualities Lex needs. 

 

So long as he shaves his head. Race can be different from the source here, but some things you just can't change!

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post #586 of 2590
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That's a really inspired choice for Luthor.

Casting an African-American could be a very provocative choice thematically. It wouldn't need to be acknowledged at the script level, but a black man resenting the great white hope for imposing his will on the world could make for really fascinating subtext. 

post #587 of 2590

I don't know if I go in that direction. Luthor's recent characterization as an accomplished human resenting the intervention of an alien is interesting enough. 

post #588 of 2590
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Casting an African-American could be a very provocative choice thematically. It wouldn't need to be acknowledged at the script level, but a black man resenting the great white hope for imposing his will on the world could make for really fascinating subtext. 

 

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I don't know if I go in that direction. Luthor's recent characterization as an accomplished human resenting the intervention of an alien is interesting enough. 

 

It's inevitable that this is how it would be read. Which, honestly, would be an interesting element to this story - if done well, Will they have the personnel to pull this off?

 

(probably a moot point: Denzel ain't doing this).

post #589 of 2590
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There's a rumor that Bradley Cooper shows up briefly as Luthor in Man of Steel.


I hope that's all it is. A rumor. I doubt anyone's mind would jump to Bradley Cooper when the words "Lex Luthor" are spoken. It's much like The Crow fiasco all over again (that movie's been killed now, right?) Cooper is great but The Crow and Lex Luthor he most certainly is not.

post #590 of 2590
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I'm warming to the Denzel Washington as Lex idea. He can very smart and intimidating - exactly the qualities Lex needs. 

 

Well, Larry Fishburne is already Perry White, so small steps in that direction have already been taken. I have no particular favourite to play Luthor, I just (as others have said) want to see him done justice in a Superman movie writing-wise, in the same way that he was respected in the DC Animated Universe.

 

I've often said I don't think new Superman movies are even necessary since "Superman II" satisfies me enough that I'd be happy just watching it and no other Superman movie for the rest of my life, but if there's one thing that could justify a new Superman movie, it's giving Lex Luthor his due.

 

I understand avoiding him in the first movie to not make it feel like too much a re-tread of the last one (and possibly to foreshadow Luthor the way The Joker was set up in "Batman Begins") and I anticipate being more excited about the sequel to "The Man of Steel" if it hints at a new Luthor. Zod is a villain that was done so well in "Superman II", I feel like bringing him back is redundant and unnecessary. I could not say the same about Luthor, who has always been played as more of a buffoon and really didn't have to be.

 

I love how in the animated series, Luthor was a legitimate and successful entrepreneur who cleverly kept his illegal activities on the down low, making it very hard for Superman to deal with him. He'd do a lot of shady things, but he'd weasel his way out of being connected to them. This is a really fascinating characterization for a comic book villain, so I don't understand why it's never been attempted in a live action Superman movie, in favour of instead constantly making Luthor your stereotypical megalomaniac (with a wacky real estate obsession, for some reason). 

 

I want to see the suave, sophisticated Luthor who actually has a good reputation in Metropolis. Maybe even go as far as saying he built half of it, as in the animated series. He shouldn't hate Superman just because he's an asshole jealous of Superman's power and wants to take over the world.

 

His motivation is much more interesting when it's because he poured so much of his money and passion into the city, and yet Superman gets all the glory and adulation of its people. It's a much more understandable jealousy, so while we're not necessarily on his side, we can at least see where he's coming from a bit. And I also think he can battle Superman and/or the Justice League in his rocket-powered flying battlesuit without looking as silly as Obadiah Stane did in "Iron Man"...it would just have to be done very, very carefully by the filmmakers.


Edited by Naisu Baddi - 12/15/12 at 6:00pm
post #591 of 2590
I think he could do it he has this pompous arrogant streak that could make it work and also has ability to demonstrate visciousness and anger when needed when psychologically battling superman and can be suave at times since that's a big part of Luthor fooling the general public. But overall would I pick him as Luthor? No I wouldn't I'd probably go with someone like Daniel Day Lewis, Jon Hamm or Damien Lewis. But yeah Cooper isn't the first to come to mind. Although neither did Heath Ledger in casting of The Joker.......
post #592 of 2590

Michael Chiklis = Lex Luthor.

 

*drops mic*

post #593 of 2590

*picks it up, throws it at you*

post #594 of 2590
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Originally Posted by Arturo RJ View Post

Daniel Day Lewis, Jon Hamm or Damien Lewis.

 

Those are three really good picks! The likelihood of Day Lewis taking a role like that is minimal (which is a damned shame) but the other two would be fantastic too. Especially Damien Lewis!

post #595 of 2590

I think Denzel is such an excellent Lex choice that even the racists would stfu.

 

I hope, in my heart of hearts...  So naive.

post #596 of 2590
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Originally Posted by Naisu Baddi View Post

 

Well, Larry Fishburne is already Perry White, so small steps in that direction have already been taken. I have no particular favourite to play Luthor, I just (as others have said) want to see him done justice in a Superman movie writing-wise, in the same way that he was respected in the DC Animated Universe.

 

I've often said I don't think new Superman movies are even necessary since "Superman II" satisfies me enough that I'd be happy just watching it and no other Superman movie for the rest of my life, but if there's one thing that could justify a new Superman movie, it's giving Lex Luthor his due.

 

I understand avoiding him in the first movie to not make it feel like too much a re-tread of the last one (and possibly to foreshadow Luthor the way The Joker was set up in "Batman Begins") and I anticipate being more excited about the sequel to "The Man of Steel" if it hints at a new Luthor. Zod is a villain that was done so well in "Superman II", I feel like bringing him back is redundant and unnecessary. I could not say the same about Luthor, who has always been played as more of a buffoon and really didn't have to be.

 

I love how in the animated series, Luthor was a legitimate and successful entrepreneur who cleverly kept his illegal activities on the down low, making it very hard for Superman to deal with him. He'd do a lot of shady things, but he'd weasel his way out of being connected to them. This is a really fascinating characterization for a comic book villain, so I don't understand why it's never been attempted in a live action Superman movie, in favour of instead constantly making Luthor your stereotypical megalomaniac (with a wacky real estate obsession, for some reason). 

 

I want to see the suave, sophisticated Luthor who actually has a good reputation in Metropolis. Maybe even go as far as saying he built half of it, as in the animated series. He shouldn't hate Superman just because he's an asshole jealous of Superman's power and wants to take over the world.

 

His motivation is much more interesting when it's because he poured so much of his money and passion into the city, and yet Superman gets all the glory and adulation of its people. It's a much more understandable jealousy, so while we're not necessarily on his side, we can at least see where's coming from a bit. And I also think he can battle Superman and/or the Justice League in his rocket-powered flying battlesuit without looking as silly as Obadiah Stane did in "Iron Man"...it would just have to be done very, very carefully by the filmmakers.

 

 

I like the current comics and animated series' takes on Luthor, but I'd actually like to see the "classic" Mad Scientist version at some point. Maybe have Superman unmask the Businessman Luthor and have him go nuts and underground..which may have been one of the Comic's arc.

post #597 of 2590
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Can't wait for the father/son screw-ball comedy starring Shannon and Christopher Walken.

post #598 of 2590
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Can't wait for the father/son screw-ball comedy starring Shannon and Christopher Walken.

 

It almost seemed like Walken was talking to a younger version of himself at the 2009 Oscars.

 

post #599 of 2590

How about...Michael Ironside as Lex Luthor?

post #600 of 2590
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How about...Michael Ironside as Lex Luthor?

On one level, a bit too rough-around-the-edges, really.

On another level, I'd never say no to Ironside playing anything.

 

Maybe Malcolm X. Maybe.

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