THE MAN OF STEEL Pre Release Thread - Page 13

Clancy Brown is the best Luthor.

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Originally Posted by Syd 

Oh, and give Bizarro some love!

Almost...

The darker, muted primary colors of Reeve's 'evil' Superman III costume is now the standard tone for modern movie superhero costumes. Now they'd never put a (cinematic) Superman, Spider-Man, et al in a suit as bright and colorful as Reeve's standard suit. Sign of the times. 

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Originally Posted by grubstreeter 

The darker, muted primary colors of Reeve's 'evil' Superman III costume is now the standard tone for modern superhero costumes. They'd never put Superman, Spider-Man, et al in a suit as bright and colorful as Reeve's standard suit. Sign of the times. 

And? It's not like there is a deeper meaning to the bright primary colors of the early (& current) comics - It is there because it was/is simpler to print, and easier to draw/paint. Don't ascribe any deeper meaning to it than that.

while there may not have been the intention behind it, it came to signify a sort of simplicity that comic book stories were assumed to require (Dick Tracy?). 

The downside of the post-modern (I went there) caped story is that the muted pallatte (Sin City?) is offered as a poor substitute for substance.

Colors invoke emotion, Hyperspace. Brighter colors pop and give off a refreshing, lighthearted sense of fun. Darker colors tend to be more serious and depressing. If that weren't the case, goth kids would be walking around in tie-died shirts with fuchsia lipstick, not black pants with black belts that have black lettering to reflect their black souls while they avoided the sun at all costs.

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Originally Posted by Shaun H 

Colors invoke emotion, Hyperspace. Brighter colors pop and give off a refreshing, lighthearted sense of fun. Darker colors tend to be more serious and depressing. If that weren't the case, goth kids would be walking around in tie-died shirts with fuchsia lipstick, not black pants with black belts that have black lettering to reflect their black souls while they avoided the sun at all costs.

You can philosophize all you want about it, but that does not change the fact about why bright colors were used in comics originally.

The fact that it elicits an emotional response whether you want it to or not pretty much, in my eyes, makes the point about color use in comics a moot point. I have a strange feeling that if they were allowed to use color how they wished, expense be damned, the heroes would still be relegated to the use of bright color while the villains retained darker shades. This reaches into something that resonates in our core for reasons I'm not entirely too sure of, in a nature vs. nurture sense of things (much in the same vein as using lighter notes vs. heavier ones in music).

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Originally Posted by Hyperspace 

 

You can philosophize all you want about it, but that does not change the fact about why bright colors were used in comics originally.

It sure doesn't. My original point was supposed to be about how cinematic costumes have changed, and I edited my post to be more clear.

The image of an angry Reeve above just struck me - those darker reds and blues, meant to show an evil nature in Superman 3, are now de rigueur for Hollywood superheroes. Just look at Reeve's standard suit to those worn by Routh and Cavill. Just an observation.

Muted colored suit and pale as a ghost. Could Superman look any less effeminate?

The Russel Crow teaser played before TDKR DVD.  It's affecting.  I couldn't help myself.

How does this look, Jamie?

He looks undead there.

Will we ever see stills from this movie that aren't just Superman standing and looking at someone off camera he's about to Super-molest?

There's always a bigger fish.

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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 

 

"WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT?!?! HUH?!?!?"

Not to derail (too much), but I know the history of this pic (Burton's version and all) and I've always had one question about it; Is Cage's head pasted onto a toy or is that an actual wardrobe test? 

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Originally Posted by Shaun H 

There's always a bigger fish.

 

I think there's a part of the suit below his neck and above the symbol that's made of 'nude' material. The edge of this part creates the line on his neck.

But mostly, it look like Cage was arrested on Halloween...

EDIT: Actually, it looks like the suit did go all the way up to his neck, but they edited the photo with a smudge tool or something to create the bare part.

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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 

 

OK, being serious for a minute? If this movie was two hours of Superman slamming Johnnie Red and screaming incoherently at people? I would marry it.

"They said he was just in a slump... They said he would be great again... THEY SAID WRONG!!"

(Cue Limp Bizkit)

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Originally Posted by brandhay 

Not to derail (too much), but I know the history of this pic (Burton's version and all) and I've always had one question about it; Is Cage's head pasted onto a toy or is that an actual wardrobe test? 

From what I remember, it's an actual wardrobe test with Cage's face photoshopped on. Someone tell me if I'm wrong, though.

It's definitely not a doll, since you can see the scale of the suit in the full picture. I'm baffled by why you'd pick a photo of Cage with long hair to photoshop onto the body, though... Were they seriously considering a long-haired Superman? Was that supposed to be some kind of ill-advised Jesus reference?

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Originally Posted by chrknudsen 

It's definitely not a doll, since you can see the scale of the suit in the full picture. I'm baffled by why you'd pick a photo of Cage with long hair to photoshop onto the body, though... Were they seriously considering a long-haired Superman? Was that supposed to be some kind of ill-advised Jesus reference?

After the "Death of Superman" story - around when this was being done - Superman had long hair in the comics for a few years.

Really? Wow... So what hairdo did Clark Kent have?

EDIT: Just read on Wikipedia that Clark had a ponytail. Thank god Burton's Superman never saw the light of day.

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Originally Posted by Splatoon 

Will we ever see stills from this movie that aren't just Superman standing and looking at someone off camera he's about to Super-molest?

I am afraid Henry Cavill is capable of just that one sort of bland, emotionless facial expression. Best get used to it now. 

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Originally Posted by chrknudsen 

Really? Wow... So what hairdo did Clark Kent have?

 

EDIT: Just read on Wikipedia that Clark had a ponytail. Thank god Burton's Superman never saw the light of day.

Well you see, DC killed off Superman so they could bring him back and make him more relevant and in touch with readers of the time. It's just the people who work there were/are dumb as hell so the only thing they could think up to make him relevant was giving him a fucking mullet.

Speaks volumes, really.

The manner of death was so unworthy of Superman. They decide to kill him - and being pummeled to death is what they go with? 

The conclusion of All Star Superman - that's a worthy end to Superman. 

The Death of Superman was possibly the first major example of the classic let's-have-our-cake-and-eat-it-too comics bait and switch, where they'd set up a major status quo change (usually a death) and then reverse it a year later. Even at the time everyone knew Superman was coming back, which is why the death was so perfunctory. Except they also got an avalanche of media coverage from people who didn't know comics, and didn't know it was all temporary. And the Big Two have been chasing that dragon to ever-diminishing returns ever since.

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Originally Posted by The Prankster 

The Death of Superman was possibly the first major example of the classic let's-have-our-cake-and-eat-it-too comics bait and switch, where they'd set up a major status quo change (usually a death) and then reverse it a year later. Even at the time everyone knew Superman was coming back, which is why the death was so perfunctory. Except they also got an avalanche of media coverage from people who didn't know comics, and didn't know it was all temporary. And the Big Two have been chasing that dragon to ever-diminishing returns ever since.

There was a somewhat similar case ten years earlier when they started to shake up Earth-2 (Batman marrying Catwoman and/or dying; Superman marrying Lois Lane) , and then tried to explain it to the press and confusing everybody. This has been cited a few times as the reason for Crisis, which was sort of the first conscious comics "event"

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Originally Posted by grubstreeter 

The manner of death was so unworthy of Superman. They decide to kill him - and being pummeled to death is what they go with? 

 

The conclusion of All Star Superman - that's a worthy end to Superman. 

Well they built up the threat to ridiculous levels to give the event some weight. Doomsday was the "Mr. T" of the DC universe.

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Whether the rumor is true or not, Rebecca Buller's agent has to be happy as hell right now.

What rumor?

I thought I read on AICN that she was supposed to be "Jenny Olsen".

Heavens to Betsy, Rebecca Buller is gorgeous.

She's cute. The female Jimmy Olsen.

Won't be hard. Unfortunately, nobody knows who Jimmy Olsen is as this poor fool figured out.

http://latino-review.com/2013/02/15/...s-episode-vii/

At 9:30 minute mark elmayimbe mentions a Man of Steel screening that took place and the reaction being "through the roof". Fingers crossed.

Yeah, Devin said something about the buzz being good too. It would be nice if Snyder was living up to his promise.

As I remember, the advanced buzz on SUPERMAN RETURNS was spotty, so this may indeed be good news. As much as I don't care about Superman and have issues with Snyder, I am rooting for this to be good.

With such low expectations, I almost can't help but be impressed by Man of Steel.

I mean I'm expecting 3/4 of this movie to look like Terrence Malick filtered through Michael Bay's jockstrap.

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Originally Posted by Sebastian OB 

As I remember, the advanced buzz on SUPERMAN RETURNS was spotty, so this may indeed be good news. As much as I don't care about Superman and have issues with Snyder, I am rooting for this to be good.

Early buzz on Returns was great. Wasn't until the last month till release did WB start to panic.