RUMORS OF A SUPERMAN/BATMAN TEAM-UP MOVIE THAT WON’T HAPPEN

I don't know, these particular rumors may be false, but I wouldn't be surprised if the WB begins strong talk about a possible team-up film after Nolan is done (though he'll probably gladly loan out his name for marketing purposes and a paycheck, which is basically what it looks like he did on MOS). Of course, depending on how TDKR ends (epic conclusion!), it might be kind of silly to ask Bale to reprise the role. I have no vested interest in seeing these two characters on film together (I'm perfectly happy w/ the comics and with the Timm/Dini animated movie that came out many years back), but recasting a cheaper actor as Batman might be the wiser move for this hypothetical film, monetarily and creatively.

As long as it's nothing like that Andrew Kevin Walker draft from years ago. That thing was like Frank Miller fan fiction.

Would a team-up movie feature villains from both rogues galleries? Let's not go for the obvious here. How about the Riddler and Bizarro? Polar opposites.

In an ideal world, this movie would resemble the Paul Dini/Bruce Timm World's Finest animated film, a sequel would be a straight-up adaptation of Matt Wagner's Trinity, and the third movie would be the Justice League. 

What is this mentor BS? Ugh.

"No, Bruce, you just put your arms straight out and ZOOM you're off...oh... right... you're from around here."

Of course they're going to do this eventually! The crossover event is the future of the superhero film, which THE AVENGERS will prove when it makes seventy zillion dollars. Like it or not, this is where we're heading this decade. WB would have to have their heads firmly up their asses not to do this. A Batman/Superman team-up is way smarter than a Justice League movie in terms of cost and box office potential. And if they actually take the time to develop a great script, this thing could KILL.

And I think it's way too early to worry about what the story will be according to rumors. All of that is definitely up in the air. They're probably just listening to pitches at this point. I'm sure they will do everything in their power to court Bale, and the best way to do that is to come up with a great story and keep Nolan in the mix as producer.

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Originally Posted by Sebastian OB 

And if they actually take the time to develop a great script, this thing could KILL.

There's the key right there. It's a delicate balancing act for sure. Those 2 bounce off each other great in 4-color comics and animation, but I worry about tone/disbelief/dynamic in the live-action setting.

Maybe I can wrap my head around it better after seeing MAN OF STEEL.

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Originally Posted by Sebastian OB 

Of course they're going to do this eventually! The crossover event is the future of the superhero film, which THE AVENGERS will prove when it makes seventy zillion dollars. Like it or not, this is where we're heading this decade. WB would have to have their heads firmly up their asses not to do this. A Batman/Superman team-up is way smarter than a Justice League movie in terms of cost and box office potential. And if they actually take the time to develop a great script, this thing could KILL.

 

And I think it's way too early to worry about what the story will be according to rumors. All of that is definitely up in the air. They're probably just listening to pitches at this point. I'm sure they will do everything in their power to court Bale, and the best way to do that is to come up with a great story and keep Nolan in the mix as producer.

All of this, except....I think they should in no way try to integrate the Nolan/Bale version of Batman. Keep Nolan on for a producing credit and namedropping, but I'd like an entirely different version of Batman for a team up. Bale's version doesn't want to be Batman (at least that's what he tells himself) and isn't looking to establish himself as a long term crimefighting brand. I think for a successful team up we need a version of Batman who gets off on the whole schtick and finds Bruce Wayne a necessary annoyance. And something a bit more obviously fantastical.

But basically what Sebastian says: if the script and story are solid, this would be tits.
 

It would work better without the Nolan/Bale Batman to be honest. I just can't see Superman in that universe.

I agree with you guys that the Nolan version of Batman is tough to imagine in a crossover with more fantastical elements. I'm pretty sure that Nolan himself said he wouldn't want to see his Batman in a crossover movie. So Bale and Nolan's involvement may be unlikely. But you can bet your ass that the Batman in this will resemble the one we've seen in the Nolanverse. They want to sell tickets and they aren't going to risk redesigning Bats from scratch after three successful movies. 

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Originally Posted by Sebastian OB 

The crossover event is the future of the superhero film.

Frightening.

And I don't think for a second it's going to flop, but The Avengers being especially successful compared to the rest of the MCU is not even close to a foregone conclusion.
 

It's definitely a gambit, but it's one I think is going to pay off huge. People are burned out on the standard superhero origin stuff, but piling them into one movie, especially three characters who have had successful launches, will qualify as an event. It hasn't been done before on this scale and people are primed and curious to see it play out. If the movie is decent, 300 mil domestic. I'm calling it now. And you can bet we'll hear a definitive announcement on Batman/Superman as soon as the first weekend tally of THE AVENGERS comes in.

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Originally Posted by Sebastian OB 

WB would have to have their heads firmly up their asses not to do this.

Is this your first day? :)

As to recasting, I don't like Bale in the suit, don't like the voice, don't want him back beyond the three.  And crossovers should have fuckall to do with secret identities anyway.  The Avengers don't have to deal with this issue because everyone behind a mask is known to the public, yeah?  Recast both fucking parts unless they got that Goodfellas extra that posed for that Superman picture last week to sign on for event films as well.  Otherwise, put Tom Welling in the suit for this or a Justice League film.

The idea that Nolan is completely wrapping up and "ending" his Batman story is absolutely the most exciting thing about TDKR. I'd hate to see any of his universe in a future crossover.

Reboot that shit, craft a new Batman franchise that will accomodate Superman. Quality of the product aside I am amazed WB aren't falling over themselves to get this out... 

Seriously it will sell itself. Remember how crazy people went over this?

We'll get Cavill as Superman (which is what this rumor is saying is a guarantee) and a new actor as Batman.  I suspect this will be done before a Justice League film to test the waters.  If it does well (and it probably will), we'll get the fullblown team-up flick.

I would definitely be interested in a...Super Team Up!  Maybe...Tom Jane as Batman in Worlds Finest!

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Originally Posted by Mike's Pants 

Seriously it will sell itself. Remember how crazy people went over this?

 

Ugh, that was so tacky.

If there's truth to this rumor, then it adds more to the possibility that the WB don't know, care or like any of the DC characters beyond Batman and Superman. As if "Green Lantern" wasn't enough of a tipoff.

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Ugh, that was so tacky.

 

No arguments here
 

Yeah lets not forget we almost got Colin Farrell, Jude Law as Batman and Superman in a Wolfgang Petersen film!

Yikes. Thank god for Nolan.

If Bale will only do one film and they can get Cavill screw the teamup and do The Dark Knight Returns. Just go for it.

However WB playing it safe just reboot Batman and do a Justice League film once you get Flash and Wonder Woman on track that is.

At this point I'll be shocked if WB ever gets ANY of their superheroes on track outside of Batman and Supes.  I would say a Batman/Superman team-up film is FAR more likely to happen then a Justice League film ever getting off the ground..................let alone being a decent film.

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I've read this regularly over the last two to four years, and it still doesn't ring to be true. X-Men First Class, Thor and Captain America had a great run this year. Green Lantern hasn't, but it sucked, so you can't blame audience for not coming.

Next year has Ghost Rider 2 trying another origin, with the same character. It'll probably burn like Drive Angry, but that'll probably be deserved. More important, it has The Amazing Spider-Man. so far it doesn't look great, I give it that, but there's no way in hell this doesn't do at least 300 worldwide. Na, 500. Which would not be the billion they're hoping for but more than enough. Also, there'll be a new Hulk origin series, aiming to become the next Smallville. Could be. Dredd is not an origin story.

2013 has Superman pretty much alone. Maybe Black Panther, a new Blade.

2014 has Marvel secret project 1 and 2, 1 probably being Captain America 2, 2 probably being Dr. Strange (or a SHIELD movie). If it's Strange, it might be a risk, but so far Iron Man, Cap and Thor worked great, so Marvel may have trust in themselves.

By 2015, we will have a new Batman, probably a new Fantastic Four, a new Punisher.

If they play their cards right, they'll always have upcoming sequels/reboots to movies people loved and therefore have enough money to risk introducing new ones. I don't see superhero movies going anywhere in the next decade, not even origin stories. There's no SAW 3D horizon on which someone actually pulls a lever and says let's stop this money making machine for a while, shall we? And speaking Saw, if Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3D underperforms next year, I'll bet sweat and bones we'll have a new Saw movie in 2013. Maybe not a direct continuation, but a new Saw movie.

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By 2015, we will have a new Batman
 

No, unless it's part of a team-up film. I think WB will give it at least 4 years, maybe 5 between the Nolan series and the inevitable reboot. They'll want to build anticipation, as well as allow some time between versions to soften the hold the Bale Bat has on the public perception.

Sony's attempting a reboot with 5 years between versions, and even among the moviegoing public, outside of film nerds, there's a lot of headscratching. I don't think WB will reboot the character a mere 3 years after Nolan's conclusion.

Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance is a sequel, not an origin film.  It might not refer to the events of the first one that much, but it takes place years after it.

Dr. Strange is aiming for a late 2013 release date, but I suspect it will hit Summer 2014 instead.  Runaways is a far likelier 2013 release.  Ant-Man is also likely to hit theaters within the next five years.................along with Black Panther, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist.  Marvel has already stated that new Blade and Punisher films are not likely to happen anytime soon.  They also have a TON of other non-sequel projects in the works for theaters and television (Sub-Mariner, Moon Knight, Power Pack, Inhumans, Guardians of the Galaxy, Ka-Zar, AKA, Cloak & Dagger, etc.).  Luckily, most of these characters are spread across all kinds of subgenres (science fiction, fantasy, horror, blaxsploitation, espionage, kung fu, etc.), so things shouldn't get too stale anytime soon.

Fox has Deadpool, which supposedly ignores AND pokes fun at Wolverine, in the works for 2013.  Their new Daredevil film, while not an origin tale, will also likely hit that year.  I suspect they will be rebooting Fantastic Four sometime soon as well, unless they feel like losing the rights to Marvel.

Warner Bros. is the lone company that owns a bunch of properties that isn't really doing anything with them, outside of Batman and Superman.  They missed the mark big time with Green Lantern, which they were hoping would at least garner them a trilogy.  The Flash and Green Arrow have been in development hell for years.  Wonder Woman is going nowhere.  Lobo died at quick death when Guy Ritchie decided to do Sherlock Holmes instead.  The rest (Aquaman, Hawkman, Martian Manhunter, etc.) aren't making much movement either.  I'll be shocked if a Justice League film gets made before they can get some more successful solo projects off the ground, which is why a Batman/Superman team-up project seems EXTREMELY likely to hits screens within the next five years or so.

If Man of Steel is a hit, Warner Brothers will probably be content to put out a new Superman film every few years, letting Batman rest and continuing to twiddle their thumbs with their other DC properties.  Mark my words though..............if Man of Steel doesn't meet their expectations, you an guarantee that the next Supes film that Henry Cavill (I doubt they would recast yet again so soon) does will be a Batman/Superman team-up flick!

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Originally Posted by S.D. Bob Plissken 

We'll get Cavill as Superman (which is what this rumor is saying is a guarantee) and a new actor as Batman.  I suspect this will be done before a Justice League film to test the waters.  If it does well (and it probably will), we'll get the fullblown team-up flick.

Maybe Armie Hammer could get that shot at last? He'd make a killer Nolan-lite Batman.

No fucking mentors tho, ugh.