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post #51 of 145
8/17/11 at 4:26pm

U2 broke up in 1994.

 

[drops mic, walks away]

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post #52 of 145
8/17/11 at 5:27pm

Stephen King died in a tragic roadside accident*, and we never did find out what happened to the ka-tet after they left the Emerald City. I bet whatever it was was mind-blowing, though. You just know the final battle between Roland and Flagg was going to be epic!

 

* I already feel a little guilty about typing this. I'm glad the guy was okay. But still ... those last three books ... yeeeesh.

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post #53 of 145
8/17/11 at 6:08pm

Underworld, a 2003 vampires vs. werewolves action film produced for a relatively meager $22 Million, still proves to be a financial disaster, pulling in a worldwide B.O. gross of only $2.2 Million. 

 

Director Len Wiseman's IMDB credits post-Underworld...

 

 

 

Kirk Cameron's The Jesus Code (pre-production) 2011

 
Air Bud: Goalie Retriever  2007
 

 

 

 

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post #54 of 145
8/17/11 at 7:02pm

And he never married. Especially nobody British.

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post #55 of 145
8/17/11 at 8:31pm

Wondering when somebody will make a live action Transformers movie.   With advances in special effects since '86, I bet it would be sick.

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post #56 of 145
8/17/11 at 8:35pm

I'm still waiting for that Michael Bay guy to make that G.I. JOE trilogy. Dude hasn't made a movie in what, a decade?

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post #57 of 145
8/18/11 at 7:07am
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Originally Posted by New York Times View Post
April 11, 1968

 

LOS ANGELES, April 10 -- Legendary director Alfred Hitchcock, known for his stirring and sensational thrillers, caused a major sensation of his own upon receiving the Irving G. Thalberg Memorial Award at this year's Academy Awards ceremony. After a flattering introduction by peer Robert Wise, director Hitchcock appeared on stage, cheekily accompanied by the familiar title theme from his self-titled television program. With a leisurely pace he made his way to the podium, collected his award from Wise with a handshake and a half smile, turned to the attendees, leaned into the microphone, and uttered a phrase that ran through the startled audience like an electric current of cool, detached disdain: "F--k you." 

 

I wish I could have been there.

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post #58 of 145
8/18/11 at 10:30am
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Originally Posted by zak chase View Post

Stephen King died in a tragic roadside accident*, and we never did find out what happened to the ka-tet after they left the Emerald City. I bet whatever it was was mind-blowing, though. You just know the final battle between Roland and Flagg was going to be epic!

 

* I already feel a little guilty about typing this. I'm glad the guy was okay. But still ... those last three books ... yeeeesh.



Man, I really hate to almost-agree with this, at least with regards to Dark Tower.  At least we got Under The Dome out of him since then, and I kind of liked parts of Cell.

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post #59 of 145
8/18/11 at 10:35am

In 1980 George Lucas and Irvin Kershner unleash Empire Strikes Back onto the world. Audiences are left puzzled by this film which appears to be the middle movie in a series that has no beginning or end. Still the general movie-going public are amenable to the film and the final shot of Leia and Luke looking across a Star field at the departing Millenium Falcon becomes an accepted ending leading to further untold adventures.

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post #60 of 145
8/18/11 at 11:18am

There are only three Die Hard movies.

 

Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome didn't have any kids, and it was the best of the series.

 

Alien 3 was centered around Ripley, Hicks, Newt and Bishop, and it was a huge hit in the summer of 1989 or 1990.

 

Sleepy Hollow resulted in a colossal falling out between Tim Burton and Johnny Depp.

 

Bill Murray and Harold Ramis didn't fall out during Groundhog Day.

 

Twin Peaks got renewed for a third season.

 

Police Squad! was able to go on for at least two full seasons after its six-episode first season.

 

Escape from L.A. happened in the late 80's, and Big Trouble in Little China was a huge summer '86 smash and spawned two more films.

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post #61 of 145
8/18/11 at 11:20am

The Die Hard films are a duology following John McClane's attempts to deal with the insidious Gruber brothers.

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post #62 of 145
8/18/11 at 11:23am

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Originally Posted by HunterTarantino View Post

Escape from L.A. happened in the late 80's, and Big Trouble in Little China was a huge summer '86 smash and spawned two more films.


Ladies & gentlemen, we have a winner.

 

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post #63 of 145
8/18/11 at 1:18pm
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Originally Posted by Ratty View Post

While I agree that Season Three was Buffy's high-water mark, quitting after this year excises, at minimum, Hush, The Body and The Gift which I am not willing to part with.   They never got the High School Horror mission statement back, but they had a couple more great years after that.


You're quite right that my zero-tolerance policy on everything after Season 3 would sacrifice some very good moments, Ratty. It's a good call. But the fact that those episodes were surrounded by so much filler (or stuff that was too precious for its own good) makes me feel like it's worth just calling it quits before Round 4. That way drawing the line at Oz's regular departure packs even more punch because you're left wondering what other wonderful episodes would have happened once they'd all gone to college. A bit like Freaks and Geeks. Because as good as some of those later moments were, I don't know if they topped anything we'd already seen from the show by that point.

 

To me, the series went off the boil when the Buffster stopped slaying vamps on the reg'. I admire a show that tries to progress and not rest on laurels, but all that faffing about with magic and what not just never clicked the same way. And I say that as someone who loved him some Willow at the time.
 

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Originally Posted by dynamotv View Post

Wondering when somebody will make a live action Transformers movie.   With advances in special effects since '86, I bet it would be sick.


In my dream-verse, the first new film was an all-CG riff on the animated '86 fun-fest. With the same budget as the live action one we got. It hued fairly close to the animated flick in terms of story, albeit with a vastly superior script. It featured a bountiful cast of colourful, distinguishable Transformers on both sides, all of whom were given personalities and characterization. The action was slick, plentiful, and easy to follow. Needless to say, it was not directed by Michael Bay...

 

Instead Stuart Gordon made a sensational return to the battling robot milieu, even going as far as to cast Paul Koslo as Galvatron and Gary Graham as Ultra Magnus in a nod to fans of his fans.

 

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post #64 of 145
8/18/11 at 1:27pm

Michael Jackson dies shortly after the release of BAD.  

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post #65 of 145
8/18/11 at 2:54pm

After Genevieve Bujold proves unable to perform the role of Captain Janeway, production is shut down, and Star Trek lays dormant for a couple of years after DS9 finishes. UPN launches without it, and fails within the year.  Veronica Mars is sold to NBC instead who treats it like a gold mine as West Wing is winding down. The Mars workhorse closes after 7 years and  brings in the demographics support and advertising dollars to launch Community, Parks and Recreation, and  30 Rock into the stratosphere of national consciousness.

 

In 2001, Ira Behr picks up Star Trek:Enterprise and takes it to the SciFi channel. The SciFi channel becomes a powerhouse of science fiction and fantasy television with Enterprise, Stargate, Firefly, and Battlestar.  Eventually, Lost, The Event, Doctor Who, Torchwood, Heroes, Dollhouse, and Supernatural are all launched on the SciFi channel, which is leading the way for the basic cable television revolution. Mansquito is never made. An executive mentions being trendy with a rebranded SyFy and is promptly kicked in the nuts.

 

 

 

 

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post #66 of 145
8/18/11 at 3:19pm

Pet Sounds was the very first Beach Boys record. 1971's Surf's Up was the last. In 1972, Brian Wilson refuses to allow Mike Love, Al Jardin, & the other non-Wilson guy to use the name "Beach Boys" so they begin touring as "The Good Vibes", performing 60s pop hits like "Sugar, Sugar". At the behest of President Nixon in 1973, The Good Vibes play a special concert in China where they are promptly kidnapped by North Korean dictator Kim Il-sung to entertain his son Kim Jong-il. They remain there today.


Edited by Art Decade - 8/18/11 at 3:29pm
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post #67 of 145
8/18/11 at 4:16pm

At the top of their game in the 70's, Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley decide to disband KISS.   To this day nobody knows what they look like out of makeup.

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post #68 of 145
8/18/11 at 4:41pm

After Godzilla is left at the bottom of the sea following the events of "Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah," he remains dormant until emerging in his burning form in "Godzilla vs. Destroyah."  The unexplained presence of Godzilla Junior at this point in the timeline is the result of the temporal tampering of GvsKG, and requires no further exploration, and certainly not two movies worth of cutesy, disturbing earlier incarnations.  The King of the Monsters never battled Mothra and Battra for the Earth, never absorbed Rodan's ambiguous glowing life force, and never faced a ludicrous variant on himself with giant shoulder crystals.  Japanese military technology advanced directly from the Super-X 2 to the Super-X 3, with no diversions involving cannibalized Futurian technology from the remains of Mecha-Ghidorah.  The Heisei Godzilla series is thereby limited only to entries possessing some kind of legitimate  thematic depth and maturity.

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post #69 of 145
8/18/11 at 5:55pm
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Originally Posted by Spike Marshall View Post

The Die Hard films are a duology following John McClane's attempts to deal with the insidious Gruber brothers.



What? I'll have you know that the Die Hard films are a duology detailing two very bad christmases in a row for John Maclain.

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post #70 of 145
8/18/11 at 6:01pm
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What? I'll have you know that the Die Hard films are a duology detailing two very bad christmases in a row for John Maclain.



Of the three Die Hard films I've seen I've never been able to get on with Die Hard 2. As uneven as With A Vengenace is, and despite how apparent it is that an existing script was retrofitted to include McClane, it still feels like it operates in the same wheelhouse as the original. Die Hard 2 always felt like a rather characterless cash in, but horses for courses.

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post #71 of 145
8/18/11 at 6:12pm

Yeah, I totally get that point of view Spike, I'm not a zealot on this or anything, With A Vengeance just didn't feel like I Die Hard film to me - it felt like an overbloated action extravaganze that John Maclain had been dropped in and turned from an every man to an unstoppable blue collar James Bond. 

 

Yeah 2 is the first films flashier, slightly dumber cousin, but at least they feel like they're from the same family for me.

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post #72 of 145
8/18/11 at 7:43pm


 

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Originally Posted by MrTyres View Post

After Genevieve Bujold proves unable to perform the role of Captain Janeway, production is shut down, and Star Trek lays dormant for a couple of years after DS9 finishes. UPN launches without it, and fails within the year.  Veronica Mars is sold to NBC instead who treats it like a gold mine as West Wing is winding down. The Mars workhorse closes after 7 years and  brings in the demographics support and advertising dollars to launch Community, Parks and Recreation, and  30 Rock into the stratosphere of national consciousness.

 

In 2001, Ira Behr picks up Star Trek:Enterprise and takes it to the SciFi channel. The SciFi channel becomes a powerhouse of science fiction and fantasy television with Enterprise, Stargate, Firefly, and Battlestar.  Eventually, Lost, The Event, Doctor Who, Torchwood, Heroes, Dollhouse, and Supernatural are all launched on the SciFi channel, which is leading the way for the basic cable television revolution. Mansquito is never made. An executive mentions being trendy with a rebranded SyFy and is promptly kicked in the nuts.

 

 

I will hear nothing bad said about Manskeeter. I cannot find fault with the rest of your continuity.

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post #73 of 145
8/18/11 at 7:51pm
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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog View Post

What? I'll have you know that the Die Hard films are a duology detailing two very bad christmases in a row for John Maclain.


In my personal continuity, it's one single Christmas and the sequel to Die Hard picks up minutes after the original ended. Argyle drives John and Holly to a fancy hotel where they can get down,  and the place is immediately surrounded by local elements of the Asian Dawn.

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post #74 of 145
8/19/11 at 7:58am

Man, you guys are really missing out by narrowing the Die Hard series down to two entries. There are 12 great Die Hard films culminating in the ultimate grocery store-based action extravaganza.

 

True the fan out-cry was pretty bad when when Ben Stiller replaced Bruce Willis in Die Hard 8: The Wrath of Hans, but I think he brought a quiet dignity to the role and there were surprisingly few scenes where he got his penis stuck in things.

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post #75 of 145
8/19/11 at 9:35am
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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog View Post

Yeah, I totally get that point of view Spike, I'm not a zealot on this or anything, With A Vengeance just didn't feel like I Die Hard film to me - it felt like an overbloated action extravaganze that John Maclain had been dropped in and turned from an every man to an unstoppable blue collar James Bond. 

 

Yeah 2 is the first films flashier, slightly dumber cousin, but at least they feel like they're from the same family for me.


I agree with this completely.  DIE HARD 2 seems to get undervalued/overhated, for some reason.  

 

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post #76 of 145
8/19/11 at 9:43am

What is this Die Hard 2 movie everyone's talking about? As far as I know, there's just Die Hard & it's sequel Die Hard With A Vengeance. I remember Bruce Willis was in that movie Airport Cop in '90, is that what people are thinking of?

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post #77 of 145
8/19/11 at 10:02am
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Originally Posted by Art Decade View Post

What is this Die Hard 2 movie everyone's talking about? As far as I know, there's just Die Hard & it's sequel Die Hard With A Vengeance. I remember Bruce Willis was in that movie Airport Cop in '90, is that what people are thinking of?


Clearly, we are deadlocked on this DIE HARD 2 issue worse than Congress.  

 

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post #78 of 145
8/19/11 at 11:29am

Not to derail, but DH2 is mean-spirited and bloody-minded without the saving grace of style to back it up. The only Renny Harlin flick that works for me is Deep Blue Sea, and I think it's because the sharks are a perfect outlet for his cold-bloodedness.

 

Come to think of it, DBS would make an ideal Die Hard 6 or so.

 

And then the next one's in space.

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post #79 of 145
8/19/11 at 11:33am

Well to be fair, no one's going to lose out on getting social security benefits because Art doesn't like Die Hard 2.

 

But otherwise, yea, exactly like Congress.

 

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post #80 of 145
8/19/11 at 11:46am
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Originally Posted by Hammerhead View Post

Not to derail, but DH2 is mean-spirited and bloody-minded without the saving grace of style to back it up. The only Renny Harlin flick that works for me is Deep Blue Sea, and I think it's because the sharks are a perfect outlet for his cold-bloodedness.


The Long Kiss Goodnight could charm the ears off a gundark!

 

Or something that actually makes sense.

 

My point is: Samantha's tenderness towards her unwanted Bierko lovechild shows how Renny can do the good-natured thing as well as the "bad guy go boom" stuff. Granted, he had the Shane Black script to work with. But still (I challenge anyone on this board not to find Jackson's ad-libbed singing delightful.)
 

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post #81 of 145
8/19/11 at 11:48am


 

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Originally Posted by JLassiter View Post

Well to be fair, no one's going to lose out on getting social security benefits because Art doesn't like Die Hard 2.

 

But otherwise, yea, exactly like Congress.

 


 

It's funny you should bring that up because Die Hard 10: Look Ma, No Hans is set in the Capitol Building.


Edited by Hammerhead - 8/19/11 at 12:29pm
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post #82 of 145
8/19/11 at 11:54am

I'd like to see Die Hard as a romantic comedy wherein John McClane learns to navigate the "Nakatomi Tower of the heart".

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post #83 of 145
8/19/11 at 11:57am

Well to be fair it doesn't get much funnier than, "Now I have machine gun. Ho. Ho. Ho."

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post #84 of 145
8/19/11 at 12:05pm

Also Hammerhead, how can you describe a director that made a film with a lovely young woman only interested in physical fitness turned into a cockroach by a dream-demon "cold-blooded"?

 

If anyone is cold-blooded it is you, sir. Either that or you must hate the Finns...or Cutthroat Island. It's the only possible explanation.

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post #85 of 145
8/19/11 at 1:58pm

In regards to that.....thing....in that article on the main page: So, anybody know what the progress is on that third Hellraiser movie?

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post #86 of 145
8/19/11 at 3:16pm

1997: William H. Macy wins Best Supporting Actor in a Motion Picture for his role as Jerry Lundegaard in FARGO.

 

2011: Cuba Gooding Jr's career path is exactly the same.

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post #87 of 145
8/19/11 at 4:00pm

We seem to be morphing into Alternate History instead of Personal Continuity.  

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post #88 of 145
8/19/11 at 4:04pm
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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog View Post
What? I'll have you know that the Die Hard films are a duology detailing two very bad christmases in a row for John Maclain.


I am firmly with Rain Dog in the pro-DIE HARD 2 camp. As far as I'm concerned, the John McClane in 3 and 4 is a completely different character who just happens to have the same name.

 

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post #89 of 145
8/19/11 at 4:06pm

Also, THE VAMPIRE CHRONICLES ended with Lestat turning David Talbot at the end of TALE OF THE BODY THIEF and anything Anne Rice published after that was an outright lie.

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post #90 of 145
8/19/11 at 5:57pm

The Tom Clancy novels end with 'Rainbow Six'.  Anything after that is by some ghost writer that is merely assuming the Tom Clancy name...this has to be the case, as there's quite simply no other explanation for the severe drop in fucking quality.

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post #91 of 145
8/19/11 at 7:19pm
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The Tom Clancy novels end with 'Rainbow Six'.  Anything after that is by some ghost writer that is merely assuming the Tom Clancy name...this has to be the case, as there's quite simply no other explanation for the severe drop in fucking quality.



Is Rainbow Six even worth it? I picked it up used a month or two back but the bad taste in my mouth from his last couple of books won't let me pick it up.

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post #92 of 145
8/19/11 at 8:11pm
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We seem to be morphing into Alternate History instead of Personal Continuity.  



Guilty. Okay, the Star Trek movie franchise is:

 

Wrath of Khan, Search For Spock, and Voyage Home, comprising the Genesis Trilogy. Then Undiscovered Country. On a rainy day, First Contact. For background at a party, Star Trek (2.0).

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post #93 of 145
8/20/11 at 5:56am
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Is Rainbow Six even worth it? I picked it up used a month or two back but the bad taste in my mouth from his last couple of books won't let me pick it up.


Yeah, it's worth it...it's kinda his 'last hurrah' as far as quality goes.  'Executive Orders' is OKish, but seriously...stop after that one.  'Bear and the Dragon', 'Red Rabbit', and 'Teeth of the Tiger' are utter and complete shit.  I haven't read the latest one and, quite frankly, don't intend to.

 

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post #94 of 145
8/20/11 at 7:40am

There are fans who would argue that THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY is chronologically the first of the Eastwood/Leone trilogy. I would never watch the films in that order, but I like the argument.

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post #95 of 145
8/20/11 at 7:56am
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There are fans who would argue that THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY is chronologically the first of the Eastwood/Leone trilogy. I would never watch the films in that order, but I like the argument.


I thought it was well known that THAT was the order.  Hell, Blondie picks up the sarape at the end of TGTBaTU and carries it forward into FoD.

 

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post #96 of 145
8/20/11 at 8:29am
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I thought it was well known that THAT was the order. 

 


Nope. It's arguable as to whether Eastwood is even playing the same character.

 

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post #97 of 145
8/20/11 at 9:05am

With Rudy Giuliani winning the 85 election as mayor of New York and starts to change time square Woody Allen moves to France with his 15 year old child bride.

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post #98 of 145
8/20/11 at 10:27am

In 1985? So no HANNAH AND HER SISTERS, CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS, HUSBANDS AND WIVES, or DECONSTRUCTING HARRY? Or they're just made in France? The former sounds like a downright terrible continuity to me, the latter is debatable (if his current track record of making films overseas is any indication).

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post #99 of 145
8/20/11 at 10:46am
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Nope. It's arguable as to whether Eastwood is even playing the same character.

 

 

You're right, in fact I really don't think there's any indication aside from wardrobe that Eastwood is playing a singular character.

 

But chronologically speaking, The Good, The Bad and the Ugly definitely takes place before the other two. I'm sure there's a ton of nerdy trivia I can pull off IMDB and Wikipedia to back this up, but off the top of my head you can see tombstones in A Fistful of Dollars that have death dates in the 1870's, setting it at least 10 years after GBU.

 

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post #100 of 145
8/20/11 at 12:18pm
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Yeah, it's worth it...it's kinda his 'last hurrah' as far as quality goes.  'Executive Orders' is OKish, but seriously...stop after that one.  'Bear and the Dragon', 'Red Rabbit', and 'Teeth of the Tiger' are utter and complete shit.  I haven't read the latest one and, quite frankly, don't intend to.

 


Well then I guess I'll give it a shot. Exec Orders wasn't bad but I hated Bear and the Dragon that's what was holding me back.
 

 

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