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So, I was thinking about the new Conan movie, and its lack of anything remotely related to quality compared to its predecessor, the 1984 Conan the Barbarian. 

 

It's been mentioned here in the released films forum that the movie possesses a brutal intellect. This is something I wholeheartedly agree with - but what's the reason? That can be laid at Jon Milius' feet. There's something to be said for the crop of directors who came out in the seventies -  Lucas, Coppola, Scorsese, Carpenter, Milius, etc. 

 

Alright, maybe not so much Lucas. 

But there's a brutality in Milius' Conan that I relate to Scorsese's Taxi Driver - that the former is as much a product of that same 'school'

 of filmmaking. I'm not sure that we've seen the same happen yet. It isn't so much grittiness as it is grit. "Brutal Intellect" could be the catchphrase of this pseudo-group. How do you see these directors, or how have you seen these directors, and this batch of movies, effecting what we know as cinema today?

 

If anything, I think they legitimized the genre flicks, the exploitation/'grindhouse' films as major, viable types of movies to be produced. 

 

The 80's seemed to be a dilution of commercializing of that cache, and 90's and the 'Aughts" seem more to me about cynical, even biting commentaries (The Matrix, Shaun of the Dead, Coen Brothers' films- arguable critical films, snarky even.)

 

The 70's was about rejection of the status quo and the studio, staid way of doing things. A rough sort of earnestness (a reason I mention Lucas - A New Hope, in retrospect, is just so damned.....earnest. Empire, less so - but it retains a sense of that roughness, whereas Jedi, while not bad, definitely is more 'polished' and more of a product.)

 

...Sort of talking out loud here, externalizing musings. Feel free to ignore me. 

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Honestly, I think we are to "blame" for the "evolution" of filmmaking and storytelling techniques, at least as much as - if not moreso than - the directors. I think that directors and their films evolve to suit the audience who watches them.

 

I don't think it's a coincidence that films became more critical and snarky as we did - scathing, even. Look at the films you mentioned... Conan, Star Wars. I don't think they would be so well-received by today's audiences. I can only imagine all the "worst movie ever made" threads that would be floating around. The movie-going audience of today almost seems to head into a movie looking for reasons to hate it.. even expecting to. It seems to me that in the 70's and 80's, those directors could experiment, or move forward with a film that was "quirky" or different, and that it created more opportunity for growth and exploration.

 

Nowadays, directors are challenged, almost forced, to attempt to make each and every film a life-changing, deep-thinking experience with at least three or four deep, layered, underlying messages. Of course, they can't make those messages too easy to decipher, or the intellectuals won't like the movie. However, they also can't make it too difficult, because then we'll lament that nobody can just make a movie anymore. And they know what awaits them if they fail: such scathing ridicule that their potential audience could be halved or even quartered by the first internet review. I think that the "evolution" of movies across the genres that you mentioned were more forced... not so much an evolution, as it were.

 

I'm not denying the brilliance of the directors you mentioned, aside from Lucas. However, I also don't think their projects would be as well-received today, or that they would have been given the opportunity to become what they did. I feel like their success was as reliant on acceptance as it was their own vision and brilliance. I feel like the directors today don't receive that same opportunity, and that comparing across decades is inconclusive, and probably unfair. 

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