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post #1 of 10
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Did a search and didn't find a post-release thread, so I figured I'd kick things off. Don't want to go on a full on rant, but major spoilers ahead:

 

Went to see this with 6 friends, and I actually think our combined reactions were a perfect barometer of how this movie will likely play. 3 of the guys were laughing 25 minutes in ("Russians...on the moon!?" got a a lot of guffaws), the other 2 were completely bored and I was desperately trying to give the movie the benefit of the doubt and play along, my tenuous suspension of disbelief held together by a handful of decent scares and some solid atmosphere that the movie does its best to squander.

 

The whole concept of moon rocks actually being these crab monsters is sort of cool, and the creatures themselves work well in a few quick shots (the rolling camera on the rover, the strobe light in the crater), but they look like crap when shown for any sort of extended period, and what's worse is their behavior, and very nature, doesn't seem to make any sense. They infect humans and make them go crazy by crawling inside them, but then they leave sometimes, but then they come back? And make the guy's face explode? Then the infected astronaut is dragged into a crater, only to show up later seemingly unchanged. Its a decent enough surprise, and it sets up the aforementioned strobe-light reveal, but logically it makes no sense. Why drag him down there? What's the point of these aliens? Why would they steal a flag, or a camera, or trash the spaceship? I thought the whacked out crewman angle might have potential, but it starts and ends so quickly that there's not really much suspense, and instead of a slow burn psychosis the director just has the guy spaz out in front of one of the cameras, going from 0 to lunatic in the span of about 15 minutes. And then there's the constant, "unsettling" alien noise/feedback, which the astronauts are told is coming from the receivers they planted on the moon (but which the aliens also emit themselves?). It's like the movie can't decide what sort of horror it wants to have, so they throw in these cliched tropes because hey, other movies have it. I think Scott Weinberg nailed it when he wrote "This is a potentially cool 'found footage' flick that is desperately in need of a lot more brains ... or a lot more silliness." And along those same lines, what exactly is the point of dumping these guys on the moon in the first place? Ostensibly the DoD wants footage of the creatures and (potential technological ignorance showing here), given that everything seems to be on film stranding the men there seems to defeat the whole purpose of the mission. I'll freely admit I might have missed something (and a midnight showing after a 12 hour workday probably isn't the best state for coherent viewing), but the whole thing just confused the hell out of me. The movie isn't helped by the fact that the faked footage approach, while novel (well, sort of novel), makes the whole thing feel like its moving at  a glacier pace, and the action extremely limited (walking around, talking, walking around, talking). I'm curious to see other people's reactions (and I'm sure I'll be able to articulate myself better after some sleep), but I have to say that while I applaud what the movie's attempting in theory, the execution just falls way, way short.

 

One final note: Fuck that text addendum at the end about the moon rocks disappearing. That's this movie in a nutshell, the suggestion of a threat with absolutely no rhyme or reason to give it legitimacy.

post #2 of 10

Thanks for dodging the bullet on this one. I thought the idea sounded potentially awesome, but the reviews do make it sound like a really underthought, cheapie movie. How often are they gonna do this "found footage" thing? How is this a genre? It's so weird to see audiences who would never DARE watch a documentary line up for these movies, which have tons of dead spaces, no stars, and are always super cheap.

post #3 of 10
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Originally Posted by Gabe T View Post

Thanks for dodging the bullet on this one. I thought the idea sounded potentially awesome, but the reviews do make it sound like a really underthought, cheapie movie. How often are they gonna do this "found footage" thing? How is this a genre? It's so weird to see audiences who would never DARE watch a documentary line up for these movies, which have tons of dead spaces, no stars, and are always super cheap.


The sad part is this is actually one of the better uses of the "found footage" thing as it switches between a variety of different camera types/sources, which is interesting but seems played more for novelty than as an integral part of the story-telling process. The biggest culprit is probably the motion-sensing cameras set up outside the ship, which are criminally underused.

 

post #4 of 10

I really hated this movie, in a way I generally don't hate things. It's the most boring thing I've seen in years. It's a considerably less fun movie to watch than Gamer, with Gerard Butler. It's failures are legion, and there's absolutely nothing to redeem it. Your time would be better spent sitting in a chair and staring at the wall for an hour and a half.

post #5 of 10

So no Alien type monsters on the Moon in this one?

post #6 of 10
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So no Alien type monsters on the Moon in this one?

 

Sort of. At one point one of the little crab/rock critters crawls inside an astronaut's chest and seems to gain some sort of mind-control over him (or at least drive him nuts), but it's not really made clear how this works or what the purpose is (it doesn't seem to be reproduction, as there's dozens of the things already). Then there's the bigger crabs, but we never see them do anything other than mess up equipment off camera.

post #7 of 10

Completely soulless. Like the Paranormal Activity flicks, it feels so real life that it completely misses the magic of a staged story or a narrated documentary: everything that needed to be pushed is not. For example you never once feel what it's like going into space. Landing on the moon. That alone should be thrilling and scary as fuck, still it's presented as casual and boring as a trip to the parking lot. 

 

The same for the scary stuff. Hearing strange noises on the moon, finding a dead body, noticing that SOMEONE, SOMETHING is out there. At that point the characters and we should be able to shit ourselves, frankly that's one of the scariest concepts possible: being lost on the moon, encountering something non-human. But they don't and stuff just happens. And then it's just small stone crabs, whoever thought that'd be a good idea? And the final idea of aliens possibly getteing on earth in rock form is not working either.

This could have been a pants shattering classic, but it's not worth it's 90 minutes. Instead, rent the trash classic Within The Rock, you'll have a better time.

post #8 of 10

Anyone see Lake Mungo? Takes a page from these movies but does it better. On Netflix instant, go get it.

post #9 of 10

You know, I saw this a little more than a week ago and while watching it, it didn't seem so bad, but after I got home and saw all the reviews and thought about it... maybe it isn't as bad as others say (that's just me, though) but it could have definitely been better, I'll agree. Going into it with zero expectations may have been why I didn't hate this.

 

Although, it wasn't until last night that I realized it, but the whole "spider-like creatures hatching from rocks" angle... it was *totally* ripped off from THE GIANT SPIDER INVASION! Seriously, that awful 70's movie set in Wisconsin starring Alan Hale, Jr. as a fat oaf sheriff and a bunch of rednecks characters and as seen in a particularly great episode of MST3K.

 

So, maybe it's their bizarre homage or decision or whatever you want to call it that makes me not so harsh on this movie.

post #10 of 10

As I was watching this, I kept thinking of different ways they could have framed shots, or increased the tension, ETC. It's the very definition of a missed opportunity. The moon is so quiet and empty, there is room to develop real paranoia and fear in a horror film. It could be very unsettling. And the idea of a secret moon mission that we didn't hear about is quite fun. Unfortunately the movie was determined to try to keep the energy and editing always cranked to 11, so the scary stillness of PARANORMAL ACTIVITY never had a chance to build, and as a consequence it never felt real. This movie needed a slow burn. It probably could have also ditched the FOUND FOOTAGE thing D9 style after an extended opening journey to the moon, which would have allowed for better camera angles ETC once they got up there, interspliced with "security cam" footage from the lander

 

They had no budget or reveal worth all that manic energy, so instead it just seemed like a desperate attempt to build unearned scares and tension

 

This movie should have been 75% slower, with much less going on

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