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post #51 of 104
9/28/11 at 12:57am

There's no way we're getting past the Argies. No way in hell.

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post #52 of 104
9/28/11 at 2:32am
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There's no way we're getting past the Argies. No way in hell.



Don't worry dude, you'll be playing Scotland. The only good thing about Scotland despatching us by playing like chippy, bravehearted supermen will be watching you lot put 50 points on them the following weekend!

 

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post #53 of 104
9/30/11 at 10:20pm
Mate just called, scored free corporate tickets to the Argentina vs Georgia match so I'm off to that tomorrow!

Going to a Rugby World Cup match in NZ, that's pretty choice!

And for free!!

P.S. Come on England for tonight!
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post #54 of 104
10/1/11 at 2:37am
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Originally Posted by Andy Bain View Post

Mate just called, scored free corporate tickets to the Argentina vs Georgia match so I'm off to that tomorrow!
Going to a Rugby World Cup match in NZ, that's pretty choice!
And for free!!
P.S. Come on England for tonight!


I'm sure I speak for everyone saying, we're jealous as fuck.

 

Bitterly disappointed for Scotland. They gave everything. Obviously congrats to the English, the way France have played I can't see them being a huge problem but still, gotta feel bad for the Scots  

 

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post #55 of 104
10/1/11 at 2:37am
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That was fucking horrible, but we got the win and France are worse than us at the moment!

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Originally Posted by Andy Bain View Post

Mate just called, scored free corporate tickets to the Argentina vs Georgia match so I'm off to that tomorrow!
Going to a Rugby World Cup match in NZ, that's pretty choice!
And for free!!
P.S. Come on England for tonight!

Have fun dude, hope you're supporting Georgia? Solidarity of the Cross of St George and all that...
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post #56 of 104
10/1/11 at 4:08am

You fucking jammy bastards.  :P

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post #57 of 104
10/1/11 at 12:44pm
VIVE LA TONGA!!!

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... either Dan Carter or Richie McCaw will get injured ...


Sure Universe, why not both?!?!
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post #58 of 104
10/1/11 at 12:55pm
Yup - supporting Georgia. My old mans Scottish so the Sweaties are my "also" support team if they're playing anyone other than England.

That was a horrible match to watch though. And I thought the football team was stressful enough.

But Allez Tonga, that was amazing. Watching their loosehead going mental towards the end of the match was a joy, as was the captains massive speech in Tongan at the end. They've been my supporters of the tourney so far so it was great that their team could do that for them smile.gif
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post #59 of 104
10/1/11 at 2:44pm
Oh fuck.

http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/5717524/Dan-Carter-ruled-out-of-Rugby-World-Cup

Not just a blow to the ABs but to the tournament
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post #60 of 104
10/1/11 at 2:46pm
Mind you, Cruden had a good Super and Provincial season, maybe he can bring it to the internationals.
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post #61 of 104
10/1/11 at 8:09pm
Average game, amazing experience! The whole "call" bit got the hairs up on the back of the neck. The (massive) Argentinian support was in full voice and there was a hard core of Georgian fans that mixed it up too.

Great stuff smile.gif
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post #62 of 104
10/1/11 at 9:44pm

NZ/Canada was a bit scrappy in places, but entertaining as Hell all up.  Man, I can't wait to see how much Canda improve in the next four years - you gotta love that heart!  Head clash was fucking nasty, though - Kleeberger looked like he took a head kick from 2005-era Cro-Cop as he hit the deck.

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post #63 of 104
10/6/11 at 12:37pm

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/5747017/All-Blacks-wing-crisis-Kahui-Dagg-sidelined

 

Ah well, at least Mils gets his ton.

 

Had an interesting chat with a mate yesterday about the number of injuries.  There's a theory that Union guys are now getting so big (because of the demands of the ruck and maul) that their frame and ligaments can't handle it and the acceleration and speed demands placed on them, hence the number of rips and strains.

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post #64 of 104
10/6/11 at 1:55pm
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Had an interesting chat with a mate yesterday about the number of injuries.  There's a theory that Union guys are now getting so big (because of the demands of the ruck and maul) that their frame and ligaments can't handle it and the acceleration and speed demands placed on them, hence the number of rips and strains.


 

Which is very common with steroid use due to the ligaments and tendons not growing at the same rate as the muscle mass, therefore not being able to support it.

 

Just saying.

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post #65 of 104
10/6/11 at 2:38pm
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Don't want to get into a steroid debate but there's probably a bit of truth to this muscle mass theory, some players are just stupidly unlucky though. Spare a thought for James Simpson-Daniel, one of England's most gifted players, who would be stricken by a random injury whenever he was getting back into the England setup. It's like someone had a voodoo doll of him, the sheer variety of injuries he's sustained, from the usual muscle tears to a full blown attack of glandular fever. Wilkinson has been similarly cursed in his career and I wouldn't say either Wilko or JSD are particularly overly developed gym bunnies (unlike Haskell).

 

 

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post #66 of 104
10/6/11 at 3:25pm

Don't get me wrong - I'm not pointing the finger and getting on any kind of high horse about it.  I can completely understand why athletes do it, and considering the sheer amount of pressure *pro* athletes are under, it's not surprising in the slightest.  There is an incredible amount of turning a blind eye to the whole thing from the general public and it's still held up as some sort of cold war "HOW COULD THEY?!?!" bullshit when someone gets done for it.  But let's be honest - if you had a job and you were one of the very best in the world at it, it's a job that has a definite clock attached to it as to how long you're going to stay relevant, and every year there is younger, faster, stronger competition who want nothing more than to knock you off your spot and take that glory . . . well, you'd do what you needed to do to stay in your place, wouldn't you?  Never mind the insane amount of pressure from your fans to win every single time, always give 110% etc etc . . . it's enough to do any normal person's head right the fuck in.

 

But again, all I'm saying is that no one should ever be *surprised* if a pro athlete gets done for being on the gear.

 

And then, as you say, some people just have REALLY shithouse luck.

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post #67 of 104
10/7/11 at 1:39am
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Don't get me wrong - I'm not pointing the finger and getting on any kind of high horse about it.  I can completely understand why athletes do it, and considering the sheer amount of pressure *pro* athletes are under, it's not surprising in the slightest.  There is an incredible amount of turning a blind eye to the whole thing from the general public and it's still held up as some sort of cold war "HOW COULD THEY?!?!" bullshit when someone gets done for it.  But let's be honest - if you had a job and you were one of the very best in the world at it, it's a job that has a definite clock attached to it as to how long you're going to stay relevant, and every year there is younger, faster, stronger competition who want nothing more than to knock you off your spot and take that glory . . . well, you'd do what you needed to do to stay in your place, wouldn't you?  Never mind the insane amount of pressure from your fans to win every single time, always give 110% etc etc . . . it's enough to do any normal person's head right the fuck in.

 

But again, all I'm saying is that no one should ever be *surprised* if a pro athlete gets done for being on the gear.

 

And then, as you say, some people just have REALLY shithouse luck.



See, I totally understand your argument but I think it suits the world of Athletics better than Rugby. It doesn't matter if your competition is younger, faster and stronger if they are thick as shit, that's the beauty of the game. Look at how Brian O'Driscoll exploded onto the scene with raw pace and power - to me he didn't peak until many years later when he lost a lot of his speed, but he got a lot more cunning. Rugby is, and hopefully will continue to be, a sport for all shapes and sizes where speed of thought and vision are just as important as strength and speed. Performance enhancement drug abuse exists of course, but I'm not sure it's particularly widespread. It definitely isn't at grassroots level in England.

 

Now, I realise I've just come across as a hopelessly naieve dreamer but I've got a World Cup buzz on, COME ON!

 

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post #68 of 104
10/7/11 at 11:54pm
I can't get over how tight, professional, well disciplined and hungry this young Welsh side is.

Picked them be beat Ireland in Jimungo and they rewarded me.

But what a good team. Their backs are mean, fast and strong and their forwards know what's what.

If England beat the French I can't see them progressing past the Welsh.

As much as anything their attitudes to the tourney are so different. May be meedja hype but you get the feeling the English are here on a jolly whilst the Welsh are here to do a job.

Well done Wales, commiserations Ireland, go England!
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post #69 of 104
10/8/11 at 11:02am
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That's us done then. Bollocks. Fucking love it if France get the final now.

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post #70 of 104
10/8/11 at 11:26am
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Originally Posted by Andy Bain View Post

I can't get over how tight, professional, well disciplined and hungry this young Welsh side is.
Picked them be beat Ireland in Jimungo and they rewarded me.
But what a good team. Their backs are mean, fast and strong and their forwards know what's what.
If England beat the French I can't see them progressing past the Welsh.
As much as anything their attitudes to the tourney are so different. May be meedja hype but you get the feeling the English are here on a jolly whilst the Welsh are here to do a job.
Well done Wales, commiserations Ireland, go England!

 

Beautifully put and it's why I can see them in the Final. As an Irishman I'm gutted but Wales were every inch the better the team. Williams' try completely knocked Ireland sideways and no matter what Ireland threw at them they wouldn't let them past. Absolutely world class defending.

 

Ireland ended up panicking towards the end and started making silly mistakes. Constantly kicking it down field for Wales to catch and kick it back down into touch, sloppy sloppy.

 

Commiserations to England as well Glisten, France are the most schizophrenic team there is. 
 

 

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post #71 of 104
10/8/11 at 8:03pm

Two weeks ago, an old mate of mine from the wrestling scene joked on my FB page "is it too much to ask for a NZ/Wales final?".  To which everybody replied, "Yes.  Yes it is.".

This morning, however, everyone ain't so sure.

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post #72 of 104
10/9/11 at 12:03am
Bloody England..

But his damn how intense was that Aussie/Saffer match??

Un-believable.

Bonus of England being out is that I can now enjoy (as opposed to suffer through) ALL the remaining games.

Wonder if the ABs pretty much total lack of opposition so far is going to negatively affect them in the semis/final

Everyone else has had a good blooding and had to dig deep.
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post #73 of 104
10/9/11 at 3:49am

Now we're down to our third choice first five and Australia are starting to hit their stride. Awesome.

 

So beautiful to see Wales going far though.

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post #74 of 104
10/9/11 at 10:55pm

and Stephen Donald has just been called in...

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post #75 of 104
10/12/11 at 1:40pm

My favourite Piri Weepu memes of the moment:

 

ectfo.jpg

 

pwa.jpg

 

pwjk.jpg

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post #76 of 104
10/13/11 at 11:21am

Hah! Piri was outstanding against Argentina.

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post #77 of 104
10/13/11 at 12:54pm

Stephen Donald on the bench has my workmates in a lather:

 

and here are THOSE memes (poor fucker, I hope Ted has banned the Internet)

 

tednsd.jpg

 

fod.jpg

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post #78 of 104
10/13/11 at 4:02pm

David Pocock set the tone early on smashing into opposite number Danie Rossouw in what was to be an intriguing one-on-one battle within a brutal war, at least until the South Africa man had to leave the field after only twenty minutes with a twisted knee.

 

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post #79 of 104
10/14/11 at 2:12am
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Well the "England Football Hooligan Tour 2011" came to a rather whimpering conclusion with no-one taking up Jonny Wilkinson's suggestion to "smash the fucking place up" on the way out, although young Manu Tuilagi tried to down one of the NZ ferries by diving into the propellor system, spectacularly missing. A bemused Martin Johnson spoke to journalists but couldn't come up with anything conclusive as to the reason for England's failures, "perhaps we should bring some rugby players next time" he suggested.

 

So with England no longer the media's public enemy number 1 their ire turns to Australia, who are seemingly getting it in the neck for fielding two kiwis in their squad in the shape of Quade Cooper at 10 and Richie McCaw at 7. Asked how they plan to prepare to combat the destructive openside cheat, former Welsh coach Steve 'Gavin' Henson said "We got plenty of people we can turn into Richie McCaw - just put a green bib of him and say hey you're Richie McCaw."

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post #80 of 104
10/14/11 at 11:07am
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Wales v France:

 

Wales: 15 Leigh Halfpenny, 14 George North, 13 Jonathan Davies, 12 Jamie Roberts, 11 Shane Williams, 10 James Hook, 9 Mike Phillips, 8 Toby Faletau, 7 Sam Warburton (capt), 6 Dan Lydiate, 5 Alun-Wyn Jones, 4 Luke Charteris, 3 Adam Jones, 2 Huw Bennett, 1 Gethin Jenkins.
Replacements: 16 Lloyd Burns, 17 Paul James, 18 Bradley Davies, 19 Ryan Jones, 20 Lloyd Williams, 21 Stephen Jones, 22 Scott Williams.

 

France (revised): 15 Maxime Médard, 14 Vincent Clerc, 13 Aurélien Rougerie, 12 Maxime Mermoz, 11 Alexis Palisson, 10 Morgan Parra, 9 Dimitri Yachvili, 8 Imanol Harinordoquy, 7 Julien Bonnaire, 6 Thierry Dusautoir (capt), 5 Lionel Nallet, 4 Pascal Papé, 3 Nicolas Mas, 2 William Servat, 1 Jean-Baptiste Poux.
Replacements: 16 Dimitri Szarzewski, 17 Fabien Barcella, 18 Julien Pierre, 19 Fulgence Ouedraogo, 20 Francois Trinh-Duc, 21 Jean-Marc Doussain, 22 Cedric Heymans.

 

Australia v New Zealand

 

Australia: 15 Kurtley Beale, 14 James O'Connor, 13 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 12 Pat McCabe, 11 Digby Ioane, 10 Quade Cooper, 9 Will Genia, 8 Radike Samo, 7 David Pocock, 6 Rocky Elsom, 5 James Horwill (c), 4 Dan Vickerman, 3 Ben Alexander, 2 Stephen Moore, 1 Sekope Kepu.
Replacements: 16 Tatafu Polota-Nau, 17 James Slipper, 18 Rob Simmons, 19 Ben McCalman, 20 Luke Burgess, 21 Berrick Barnes, 22 Anthony Faingaa.

 

New Zealand: 15 Israel Dagg, 14 Cory Jane, 13 Conrad Smith, 12 Ma'a Nonu, 11 Richard Kahui, 10 Aaron Cruden, 9 Piri Weepu, 8 Kieran Read, 7 Richie McCaw (c), 6 Jerome Kaino, 5 Brad Thorn, 4 Samuel Whitelock, 3 Owen Franks, 2 Keven Mealamu, 1 Tony Woodcock.
Replacements: 16 Andrew Hore, 17 Ben Franks, 18 Ali Williams, 19 Victor Vito, 20 Andy Ellis, 21 Stephen Donald, 22 Sonny Bill Williams.

 

 

 

Two games that are almost impossible to call, you'd think Wales would edge it on form but who knows which France are going to turn up? In the SH game, a lot is riding on McCaw being fit as Pocock is brilliant in the ruck. And no Carter. How's the blood pressure Bucho?

 

Hoping for either a France v New Zealand or Wales v Australia final, can't wait!

 

 

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post #81 of 104
10/14/11 at 2:50pm
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Well the "England Football Hooligan Tour 2011" came to a rather whimpering conclusion with no-one taking up Jonny Wilkinson's suggestion to "smash the fucking place up" on the way out, although young Manu Tuilagi tried to down one of the NZ ferries by diving into the propellor system, spectacularly missing. A bemused Martin Johnson spoke to journalists but couldn't come up with anything conclusive as to the reason for England's failures, "perhaps we should bring some rugby players next time" he suggested.

 

So with England no longer the media's public enemy number 1 their ire turns to Australia, who are seemingly getting it in the neck for fielding two kiwis in their squad in the shape of Quade Cooper at 10 and Richie McCaw at 7. Asked how they plan to prepare to combat the destructive openside cheat, former Welsh coach Steve 'Gavin' Henson said "We got plenty of people we can turn into Richie McCaw - just put a green bib of him and say hey you're Richie McCaw."


 

Grinning!

 

I don't get the last line though. Is the green bib a reference to Ireland?

 

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post #82 of 104
10/14/11 at 3:27pm
That Richie reference was pure gold.

But let's face it, he's not the only one is he? All the best players push it as far as they can.

I tell you what though, if the ABs go out to a forward pass this place is going to go off in a way that will make the big 19th century Tarawera eruption look like a minor tremor.
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post #83 of 104
10/14/11 at 10:38pm

Just for those who never got to see Pulp Sport over the years . . .

 

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post #84 of 104
10/15/11 at 2:00am
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Grinning!

 

I don't get the last line though. Is the green bib a reference to Ireland?

 


 

This new kid Matt Todd was training with the All Blacks over the week and the press asked Hansen whether he was being asked to play like Pocock so the All Blacks could prepare against him, Hansen said "No. He's being Matt Todd. Don't read too much into it, he's just at training. The poor bugger is just at training and that's it. We've got plenty of people we can turn into David Pocock, just put a green bib on them and say, 'you're David Pocock'."

 

 

Man, this Wales v France game is pretty controversial. Did that look like a red to anyone else? Defintely a yellow though in my opinion.

 

 

 

 

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post #85 of 104
10/15/11 at 9:18am

Just got back from watching it in the Millennium Stadium and it was. fucking. torture. I cried all my tears last week for Ireland but that was just devastating, it was never a red card and it cost them the match. Wales were the better team in every way. The place erupted when Halfpenny took that kick and then... inches short. Such a sad way to exit the tournament.

 

 

 

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post #86 of 104
10/15/11 at 1:16pm

I must've missed that Steve Hansen quote. He's not known for being a jokester but his mumbly deadpan is a pretty good delivery system for when he does.

 

Felt bad for Wales, they've played with such massive heart. If just one of those kicks had been on target it would have been a glorious state of affairs, but the Frogs are champs when it comes to breaking hearts.

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post #87 of 104
10/16/11 at 1:04am
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I must've missed that Steve Hansen quote. He's not known for being a jokester but his mumbly deadpan is a pretty good delivery system for when he does.

 

Felt bad for Wales, they've played with such massive heart. If just one of those kicks had been on target it would have been a glorious state of affairs, but the Frogs are champs when it comes to breaking hearts.



I heard that. In the cold light of day, and now the country is sober, you realise Wales missed eight points. Any one of those kicks could have won it. Ahh well.

I'd put my mortgage on today's winner taking the cup.

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post #88 of 104
10/16/11 at 3:21am

Excuse me, gents.  I have a very mouthy Australian brother-in-law to txt . . .

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post #89 of 104
10/16/11 at 12:25pm

Was Quade secretly playing for us? He doesn't even have an Australian passport you know.

 

Some poor place kicking from Piri but everyone else was killing it. The AB loosies blew Pocock and co off the park, the AB scrum destroyed theirs and our back three ate high balls like they'd been playing Aussie Rules all their lives.

 

At least when France beats us next week we'll have the memory of this match to cling to.

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post #90 of 104
10/16/11 at 2:07pm
Thread Starter 

 

To be fair to Pocock, he was the only one of the useless buggers that looked like he was trying...

 

Quite disappointing semi-finals from a neutral's point of view. The red card really soured the first game, especially when the French responded to it by grinding out a dour one point win. The ABs walked the second game, which is wonderful for you Kiwi chaps but it certainly wasn't the classic we were all hoping for.

 

Really hoping the final is a great game, but I fear the French might be just a speed bump for the All Blacks, who deserve to win it.

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post #91 of 104
10/17/11 at 10:17pm

Since the inaugural held in 1987 the Rugby World cup has taken place every four years and has, at least according to the IRB (International Rugby Board - sort of like Rugby's version of FIFA), grown in popularity with the 2007 tournament gaining the largest viewership yet. The winner is awarded the William Webb-Ellis Trophy (named after the mythical figure said to have invented the sport). This year New Zealand are hosting the tournament. The previous winners are as follows (with the runner-up in brackets) -

1987 - New Zealand (def. France)
1991 - Australia (def. England)
1995 - South Africa (def. New Zealand)
1999 - Australia (def. France)
2003 - England (def. Australia)
2007 - South Africa (def. England)

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post #92 of 104
10/19/11 at 6:46pm
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To be fair to Pocock, he was the only one of the useless buggers that looked like he was trying...


 

Yeah, he was actually still pretty great to be honest.

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post #93 of 104
10/20/11 at 1:37am
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Yeah, he was actually still pretty great to be honest.



...and with the absence of Sam Warburton, Wales are starting young Toby Faletau against him. Crikey!

 

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post #94 of 104
10/23/11 at 2:50am
Wow, one of the tensest finals ever. Well done the ABs

I imagine we'll hear from Bucho and the Natural when they've scraped themselves off the ceiling!

Great time to live in NZ!!!
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post #95 of 104
10/23/11 at 3:26am

Maaaaaaaaaaaate.  As a NZer living in Australia, I have to say - the fact that it was a damn hot 25 degrees without a cloud in the sky all day, only to have a MASSIVE thunderstorm break out about 3 minutes after the full-time whistle literally made me LOL.

 

"Intense" just doesn't do that justice.  If I was Donald, my only quote to the media would be "Fuck all y'all!".

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post #96 of 104
10/23/11 at 3:38am
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Maaaaaaaaaaaate.  As a NZer living in Australia, I have to say - the fact that it was a damn hot 25 degrees without a cloud in the sky all day, only to have a MASSIVE thunderstorm break out about 3 minutes after the full-time whistle literally made me LOL.

 

"Intense" just doesn't do that justice.  If I was Donald, my only quote to the media would be "Fuck all y'all!".



Dude, I want you to log off and go and get more shitfaced drunk than you've ever been in your life. We don't want to hear from you or Bucho for a minimum 24 hours, you're World Cup Champions. Enjoy it!

 

Well played boys!

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post #97 of 104
10/23/11 at 3:45am
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Dude, I want you to log off and go and get more shitfaced drunk than you've ever been in your life. We don't want to hear from you or Bucho for a minimum 24 hours, you're World Cup Champions. Enjoy it!

 

Well played boys!



If I drank, I surely would, old salt.  But my responsible side is telling me that, judging by my FB news feed, the next 24 hours would be better spent calling all my friends to make sure they don't need an ambulance sent to their house.  Cheers mate!

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post #98 of 104
10/23/11 at 3:49am

Massive high to you boys. 

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post #99 of 104
10/23/11 at 3:59am

My sister, however, lives only a few hundred metres from Eden Park.  I'm picturing alot of detours, followed by a sick day.

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post #100 of 104
10/23/11 at 1:23pm

Holy shit, it's not just hangovers this morning it's recovering from heart attacks. Seeing Piri missing those first couple of kicks and then we go in only 5-0 up at the break, down to our fourth choice number 10, the tension was near breaking point for the whole final 40.

 

Those fucking Frenchmen decided they weren't going to lay down and let us have it easy, the bastards. Cheese eating surrender monkeys my arse.

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