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post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 

Here's where I come off as elitist. 

 

So last weekend I watched Inglorious Basterds with my girlfriend and her parents. It was the third time for me, and it's a favorite of my girlfriend and her dad (she bought it for him last Christmas). Her mom had attempted to watch it once before and fell asleep, but this time she managed to pay attention by asking a lot of questions. Let's just say she was skeptical for most of the film, but it wasn't the skepticism that bothered me. She's entitled to her opinion, but it was the way she went about conveying her opinion.

 

See, we're all film enthusiasts here. Some, if not most, of us are amateurs although I'm sure there are plenty actually in the film industry. The point is, we grew up on film and we spend a good part of our day (perhaps on here, perhaps with friends in person) contemplating film. 

 

The mom doesn't. She watches film as escapist entertainment, like most people, and that's her right. What irked me is she started to criticism the film with a certain tone and a mocking methodology. For instance, during the scene when Shoshanna and Landa are in the restaurant when the cream is brought out and there's an extreme close-up, the mom asked, "What was the purpose of that? What does that symbolize?" Although the question was put to the floor, it's obvious that it was aimed at me because I'm the known film enthusiast. I tried to convey to her how, in my opinion, the shot was meant to make the audience as uncomfortable as Shoshanna, but I wasn't met with much agreement.

 

Many casual filmgoers express their opinion with simple anecdotal "I liked it" or "It was good". That's not overly insightful, but it's honest and with a degree of intuition you can usually ascertain a greatest hits of their likes and whether or not yours sync up, and therefore you may like the movie they've seen and liked.

 

This mom, however, was going out of her way to use the language of the film critic in order to not only criticize the film, but criticize the practice of criticism. As if she could simultaneously exist in that world and be above it. 

 

The situation bugged me, and I've been there before. My question to you is: have you ever experienced anything like this, and how did you handle it?

post #2 of 15

Was she criticizing criticism or has the sheen worn off you and was she being snarky about you and your interests?

post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 

That's a strong possibility.

post #4 of 15

I'm so glad my mother-in-law doesn't speak English very well. With her, it's all about hugging and food, and she wouldn't dream of making fun of my stories.

 

That said, my Dad likes to do something similar, but I'm convinced he does it just because he knows it gets to me. He once spent the entirety of a LOTR: TFOTR showing muttering "Why don't they just throw out the ring?" and "WHY DID THEY GIVE THE RING TO THE CHILDREN?"

 

I think she's found a weak spot and wants to exploit it a little.

post #5 of 15

You should've just said that Tarantino is closely linked with the cream lobby and that the whole scene is an advertisement for its rich, creamery goodness.

post #6 of 15

Thanks to the internet, we live in an age where most people feel entitled to be vocal critics. But it also sounds like her mom thinks her daughter could do better than you.

post #7 of 15
Thread Starter 

I am shamed.

post #8 of 15
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Originally Posted by Bartleby_Scriven View Post

 

Her mom had attempted to watch it once before and fell asleep, but this time she managed to pay attention by asking a lot of questions.



I think that is more of an illusion there.

post #9 of 15
Thread Starter 

Explain.

post #10 of 15

I think Z means what the rest of us have said.  You created an illusion of her interest in your head when the possibilities from your narrative have led us all to the similar conclusions of:

 

A) She's just poking fun at you in a good natured way and has found your Easy button.

 

B) Mom's about to start cock-blocking you whenever you're not around.

 

I hope it's A.

post #11 of 15

She sounds awful. Take your frustrations with her out on her daughter and then unceremoniously dump her. Blame her mother for the breakup to cause as much friction as possible between them after you're gone. This is my honest advice. 

 

 

Ok, it's not, but mother-in-laws are just too fucking frustrating for me to reflect clearly on. Temperance is key but a scorched-earth policy like the one I laid out above is really appealing. I'd say I agree with most of the other comments: it's definitely personal. Or she was just irritated that she was being forced to watch a movie she didn't like the first time? That can really put a person off. 

post #12 of 15

Since we all seem to agree that she was intentionally taking a shot at you Bartleby, here's an honest question: Is it possible that you come across as an elitist snob to her on the subject of movies?

post #13 of 15
Thread Starter 

All sound advice my friends, but what I told Tzu is that the mom lives in Cincinnati, so the girlfriend and I only have to see her a few times a year. 

 

I really started this thread as an opportunity to see if anyone has had similar experiences, and then engage in discussion on where this phenomena comes from and what it says about modern diy geek culture seeping into mainstream sensibilities ie. middle-aged housewives.

 

Any takers? 

post #14 of 15

I have a 40 year old brother with terrible terrible tastes, and I never actually realized it until we were checking out my sister's cable system. I was checking out the On-Demand stuff and I was like, aw, cool, Chinatown is On Demand! Clearly having never seen the movie, he actually tried to impart a life lesson on me: "If something is free, then that means it CAN'T be good."

post #15 of 15

And that was when you slapped the shit out of him, right?

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