L-Word actress kicked off airline for kissing girlfriend...

Fatigue with being treated like a criminal suspect for buying an airline ticket made an Amtrak customer out of me years ago. And they collude to fix ticket prices. Seriously, all the domestic airlines suck all the dicks. If Southwest has decided there are customers whose business they don't need, they can be the first to fuck straight off, but the industry as a whole needs an overhaul.

So they were kicked off the plane for making out.  What's the big deal? 

 

I've been on a plane where a straight couple were asked to leave because of the same thing.  It's inappropriate and makes people uncomfortable, escpecially in such close quarters. 

 

I've also seen gay men give each other a kiss on the lips (on South West) in full view a attendants and it wasn't a problem. 

 

I mean, realistically, what are the chances they were kicked off for a peck on the cheek/lips?  They probably couldn't stop sucking face and were asked to leave.  So what?

I will reserve judgement till I hear more as to the level of kissing we're talking about (I don't appreciate having overly gratuitous PDAs forced upon me in certain public situations), but given the well known history of same sex couples around this country being harassed in public spaces by the very people that are there to protect them (security guards, police, ETC) for behavior that would be deemed utterly innocuous were the couple involved hetro, given what has been reported thus far if I were forced to rule on the evidence at hand I'd side with the kissers

Furthermore, I side with Rain Dog: the kind of behavior were talking about (in general, not just this specific case) is some old school despicable discrimination, and in 21st century America simply no longer acceptable in public

I see all these groups that are on about stuff like "don't discriminate against christian faith", and it makes me question the very notion of democracy. Such opinions are not worth equal consideration. They are hateful, and the people who hold them need to adapt to modern life or join a commune, because overt hatred of minorities will no longer fly

These videos I think are pertinent.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dLS8_xM2LI&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fresults%3Fsearch_query%3Dsouthwest%2Bairlines%2Bflight%2Battendant%26aq%3D4%26oq%3Dsouthwest%2Bairlines

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXJS7Un33I4

 

"According to the U.S. Surgeon General, women who are pregnant or who may become pregnant should not drink alcoholic beverages because of the risk of birth defects."

 

http://www.southwest.com/html/travel-extras/inflight-experience/menu.html

 

A link to possible dangers of kissing.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/07/11/us/case-of-hiv-transmission-is-first-to-be-linked-to-kiss.html

 

After reading a little about this airline's history (see above links), I would choose not to fly Southwest!

 

 

 

I've seen people kiss on planes and it wasn't a problem.  If they were mouth fucking each other and caused a fuss when asked to stop, too damn bad.  Get the fuck off the plane.  If it really was homophobia, clearly that's uncool.

 

 

Oh FFS. Humanity is never going to evolve.

Does remind me of the Russel Howard (I think) skit about a gay couple getting harassed by an Essex monkey for kissing while on a plane:

Essex Monkey: "It's not natural!"
Gay Couple: "You're FLYING"

Leisha Hailey huh?

 

Actually I think the pertinent question really is just how heavily she was kissing her girlfriend here. Was it really like crazy tongue fucking? Was all manner of other depraved activities being conducted right under the nose of airline staff? I must know! Pictures would be nice, along with video and audio.

 

So that I can judge.

We don't know the extent of the kissing, and we don't know the extent of the response when they were asked to stop.  What we know is what one side of the story wants us to know which seems like a pretty horrible time for people (including people in this thread) to start saying "Fuck Southwest".  If you can't get through a flight without making out with your significant other...c'mon.  As others have said it seems unlikely it was just pecks and there is such a thing as being courteous to those around you.

 

It's distinctly possible that Southwest screwed this up completely, but I'd rather have evidence of that fact rather than one pissed off person's tweets.

On the flipside one of the founding fathers, Ben Franklin partied with The Hellfire Club. Why can't more of that kind of thinking be in the culture?

 

I agree with this. I think Lauren and I should do a thorough investigation. Like the Starr report. Leisha deserves it.
 

 

Jealous fucking prudes.

 

Unless there was actual sex going on I really do not see a problem. It was probably some fucking whale, angry because she hasn't been touched by a human being in lust since making out with cousin Billy in '74. Or her husband whose hang-ups deprive him of he cocksucking he craves. And yes, I would be saying that for any combination of sexes.

If I was sitting right next to a couple sucking face like mad, or if I had a kid with me, I'd be creeped the fuck out. Call people prudes as much as you like, but an airplane is not the place to be doing that shit.

There was also an incident earlier this year where a Muslim woman got booted for wearing her headscarf. And of course, his reaction was childish, but there's the whole Kevin Smith thing too.

 

This is par for the course for that airline.

 

Screw them.

Edited by Justin Clark - 9/27/11 at 7:05am

I'd be shocked beyond belief if this was anything more than hand-holding and a couple of light kisses. Shocked. To claim otherwise is naive.

They can fuck in the airplane bathroom just like the rest of us, dammit.

Actually, Southwest has a terrific history with the GLBT community, and were one of the first airlines to offer insurance coverage for the partners of their GLBT staff:

 

http://www.southwest.com/html/southwest-difference/community-involvement/glbt/index.html

 

And from what I read, the couple wasn't kicked off of the plane for making out, but for the arguments that ensued after they were asked to tone it down. 

 

Not taking sides here, but there may be more to the story than that supplied by the actress' tweets.

Get out of here with trying to throw water over my red hot outrage.

 

But what I said stands. I doubt they did anything that would warrant even a second look if it was a heterosexual couple. And if so, they were right to get upset.  

 

If there was excessively intense kissing in an enclosed public space, when it comes to my comfort level the orientation of kissers would not matter a jot

 

If it was actually innocuous behavior and they were told it was somehow an attack on South West's "family airplane", then I can completely understand how the argument resulted

 

BTW just because South West as an airline company is gay friendly does not mean that an individual employee couldn't of their own accord attempt to force hateful religiously motivated beliefs on members of the public in their charge, so I don't dismiss the potential for Ms Hailey's posts to represent a 100% accurate account of what went down

 

 

Edited by Princess Kate - 9/28/11 at 5:29pm

I have no earthly idea what you base this on.  We don't remotely have enough evidence to decide one way or the other but you're already determined to be angry about it.

 

You can go on believing that you live in a world where a show of affection from a same sex couple in a plane would even be allowed to escalate to light make-out intensity. Unless they went from zero to furiously dry humping instantly.

Okay, and you go on living in a world where judgement before evidence is a good idea.

 

I don't know what happened on that plane but I'm certainly not comfortable assuming that the tweeting actress is being 100% accurate in her account (and she very much doesn't describe what the affections were, btw) just because it's easier to get angry at a corporation.  I prefer having a good understanding of what happened before condemnation, but that's just me.

I'm not claiming I'm not jumping to conclusions. I'm just saying that I'm pretty certain I'm right.

 

And if I err I'd rather my error be against the corporation rather than for.

perfect way to stir up business for a failing line of transportation

 

sarcasm

I know who didn't complain to the attendants: DUDES. Am I right, guys?

I choose my airline based on price, promptness and safety (if SW had existed when they made Rain Man, it'd have fucked up the whole plot). When possible, I fly Southwest.

 

Oh, and SW isn't part of the "failing line of transportation". They turned a $550M profit last year, and weren't asking for billions in bailouts post-9/11. They're actually a major reason the other airlines are failing.

 

I don't care if they won't let me (or anyone else) kiss on the plane. I just care that they let me bring my bag of Popeye's chicken onboard to supplement the eight peanuts they give you for dinner (and to make the people around me jealous).

 

If they keep prices down, arrive on time, and never crash, they can welcome every other person on to each flight with a hearty, "Thanks for flying Southwest and go fuck yourself!" for all I care. 

 

Although I will say that lesbian kissing would be a form in-flight entertainment that I would prefer over movies.

The real outrage is that no female flight attendants got involved. No cat fight, some hair-pulling, nothing? And no cell video? This entire thing screams missed opportunity. We get 360 degree coverage of Kevin Smith fatting himself off a flight, and yet here it's left to my imagination. A damn shame. 

Truth is the ACTRESS got into a pissing match with the airline employees "aboard" a plane and let's face it right or wrong if you do this loud enough and just long enough you gotta get off. She likely would have won the argument if they were swapping spit at the gate. Once aboard the flight the customer is fucked. Gay or straight take it to the bathroom. Common sense folks. Sometimes nobody has it on either side of the argument.

I don't know man. Have you seen some real life lesbian pairings?  *shudders*

Have you seen some of those in-flight movies?

Bingo. It's less about the kiss and more about the actress kicking up a fuss over nothing.

 

The cynic in me thinks this B-List actress argued so much with the flight attendant to get kicked off for the publicity.

Plenty of non famous people have been kicked off flights for similar reasons. I doubt your hypothesis is accurate, Cameron

Plenty? Really?

 

Examples, please?

Agent Z,

I have none on hand right now, but I've seen plenty of similar stories pop up on HUFFPO over the past few years. Planes, malls, ETC, around this nation it seems same sex couples are routinely held to a standard for PDA appropriateness rarely if ever applied to hetro people

Do you always just say shit for no good reason other than to hear your own voice in your head before you type the words? Examples? That's a pretty big statement PK. Shit or get off the pot.

Snoop would never let this happen on the Soul Plane®

Fuckin' A.

The new statement made me laugh, in response to whether or not they were making out on the plane:

 

"We want to make it clear we were not making out or creating any kind of spectacle of ourselves, it was one, modest kiss. We are responsible adult women who walk through the world with dignity."

 

This could very well be true, and being asked to stop could be the fault of the stewardess.  Considering the two main questions are whether they were making out, and whether they went into a very loud swearing fit when asked to stop, it's just interesting to me that they choose to address only one of the questions.  Especially with their choice of language in their response of being responsible adult women with dignity.

If those were the actual circumstances, IMHO throwing a fit was exactly what was called for. Self respect demands one not quake and bow down to that kind of bigotry. I'd have been pissed off too

everyone needs to lay off Spike Jonze and his girlfriend, so what if they were making out on an airplane

This.

If Southwest flies there directly, it's always my first choice.

2 hot chicks making out is never a bad thing, under any circumstances. Do you know who should be thrown off the planes? Poor people. This shit doesn't happen in first class. Life Lesson D list hollywood actress's... make more money and fly first class. Airlines without first class? pure fail.

 

If I were betting money...I'd side with the airline. If it were one modest kiss there wouldn't be time for a complaint, a reaction, and and argument. I believe in equal rights all around, and that a gay couple should be able to kiss just as much as a straight couple, but the bullshit meter is pinging in the red zone here. 

I dunno, I'm probably the last person who can be totally unbiased here, but I can easily see somebody on the flight getting pissy and the airline staff getting brought into this over some fairly mild behavior.

 

 

Though to be fair. They could have been copulating in the seats and I wouldn't have batted an eye-lash. I once flew to Phoenix trapped behind a small pack of five-year olds and their extremely tolerant mother. Thus anybody's discomfort would probably fall on my emotionally dead ears.

For me it boils down to this: canoodling is OK, prolonged making out is not. That is as best as I am able to define my comfort level

True.

Although I'm not sure loudly swearing in a confined metal tube that most likely has families on it is acceptable as a general rule. I'm not sure if they should have been asked to stop, but it does seem apparent that their reaction went a bit overboard. She's claiming that she has video of the whole thing but I'm wondering if she watched it and realized how bad it looks.

Meh, I personally don't mind people making out, as long as they aren't seated right next to me. Just speaking from a purely business oriented perspective - what would be better for your business? Telling a close-minded individual that a small kiss between a same sex couple is acceptable, or kicking a gay actress off of your plane for a tiny kiss? No doubt gays have been discriminated against in many situations, but let's use a little sense here