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post #51 of 220
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Ryan Murphy suggested a second season would involve a new cast moving into the house.



About the only way the show can work.  Just keep Lange.

 

post #52 of 220

"I could really use that thousand bucks"

post #53 of 220

I am enjoying the hell out of this. It rips off everything and does not care, This is the most fun I have had watching horror since The People Under the Stairs.

post #54 of 220

I just hope they can tie all the batshit crazy into something cohesive, because there's a real sense that crap is just being throw against a wall.

post #55 of 220
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They can't, dude. Count on it.

post #56 of 220

My favorite moment was the casual "ugh, she's still moving..." before more shovel hits.

 

I like the idea of moving a different family in each season, since you could still keep the original family there to haunt the place.

post #57 of 220
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I just hope they can tie all the batshit crazy into something cohesive, because there's a real sense that crap is just being throw against a wall.



It's Ryan Murphy, no chance. 

 

More young Maid please.

 

post #58 of 220
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They can't, dude. Count on it.

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It's Ryan Murphy, no chance. 



Bummer. I never watched Nip/Tuck and only saw a few episodes of Glee, so I'm not that familiar with his style. But I'm digging this show too much to give up on it now.

post #59 of 220
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Being terribly resolved need not be a negative when it comes to American Horror Story. I loved the boring woman this week!

post #60 of 220

I guess this is how some people feel about Tru blood, I dont care that it is bad. I am enjoying myself immensly watching it.

 

Yes, as was mentioned above. Further seasons involve new family moving in, old family haunting the place...or maybe one of them is in an asylum and the new family seeks them out midseason.

post #61 of 220

This idea of a new family coming in for each season suddenly has me VERY intrigued by this show. Hmm. Must reconsider...

post #62 of 220
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So in this last episode, there was a flashback to the original homeowner trying to sew bat wings to a pig corpse, there was the burn victim interrupting a jog to ask for a thousand dollars to go buy headshots, there was a jazzy gay murder in the street that had nothing to do with anything, there was a ghost story making Connie Britton bleed vaginally into some white pants, and there was a scene where Dylan McDermott built a gazebo in about ten minutes.

 

There was a piece of music stolen from Bram Stoker's Dracula too. And a great scene I've been waiting for, where McDermott go crazy on the maid while Britton looks at the old woman, confused. 

 

I don't think I could predict anything crazy enough for the remaining TEN episodes. I'm thinking Connie Britton is the surprise antagonist, maybe there's a minotaur living in the attic or something, and just guessing, the burn victim doesn't actually exist.

post #63 of 220

Ryan Murphy's first season of Nip/Tuck was equal parts stylish, razor-sharp and batshit-crazy (smuggling cocaine in boobs and feeding corpses to alligators were among my favorites). He also nailed the finale completely. The history is there.

 

I feel pretty good about his ability to tie this lunacy together into something... entertaining. If/when the show gets to season 3 though - all bets are off. Season 3 of Nip/Tuck STILL PISSES ME OFF.

 

They turned McDermott and Britton into antagonists for each other a bit quickly for my tastes. Still, it's hard to fault her reaction to him accusing their older maid of being a tarted-up whoooore. And he's got enough secrets to not be able to have a spine about it all. The kid threatening to run away was out of nowhere as well - it makes me think she already knows her boyfriend couldn't follow her.

 

I figured McDermott was going to try to psych Kate Mara into spontaneously aborting, but they've got no time for that shit on this show! He barely had time to freak out and barf before hitting Home Depot! The show's burning through seasons worth of story each episode. And I kinda dig it.

 

Oh, and it's heaps better than True Blood, if only for the skill level of the actors involved.


Edited by Farsight - 10/21/11 at 6:01am
post #64 of 220

I dont think very many of the characters are 'real', I think jessica lang, the burned dude, the maid (verified), the downs child, and the boyfriend (is the boyfriend jessica's son who was perfect?) are all haunts.

post #65 of 220
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Originally Posted by Arjen Rudd View Post

 there was a jazzy gay murder in the street that had nothing to do with anything,


I think that was supposed to be a flashback to Sal Mineo's death from the Horror tour.  

 

This show reminds of those great 1950's sci-fi movie posters where 20 things are happening at once in one drawing.  I love it!   

 

"Good luck selling that lemon!"   Jessica Lange is killing it on this show.  

post #66 of 220

So is Britton going to mention the gimp sex to McDermott at some point? And is the fact that the maid looks completely different to both of them ever going to come up in conversation?

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So is Britton going to mention the gimp sex to McDermott at some point? And is the fact that the maid looks completely different to both of them ever going to come up in conversation?

Didn't she start to say something to him when he came in after?

 

As to the 2nd part why would they?She thinks she's fine and he feels guilty and doesn't want to get caught.  I'm sure it will eventually come up.  not till the last 2 or 3 eps.

post #68 of 220

There's valid reasons why they aren't communicating on those topics, so it doesn't bother me.

 

Personally, I'd have been more direct during the initial, "I can't believe you're hiring a superhot maid!" conversation. Then again, even without being a psychiatrist I can detect batshit-crazy women like Kate Mara's wacko before torpedo-ing my marriage by torpedo-ing her, so I can't totally relate to McDermott.

 

But hey, we do all cry while masturbating, right?

 

Hmm, I'm not sure this show can be discussed in public places...

post #69 of 220
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But hey, we do all cry while masturbating, right?


Uh.....

 

sometimes

 

 

 

When the attending physician in the ER looks at your ultra-sound and then faints, you got problems.

 

 

 

post #70 of 220

That's what you get for having sex with people wearing gimp suits without verifying their identities first.

 

Half-ghost babies.  Fact!

 

Remember to always verify the identity of your sexual partner before engaging in intercourse.

post #71 of 220
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I don't care about pumpkin carving! I want love!

post #72 of 220



 

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I don't care about pumpkin carving! I want love!



And passion!

 

I love this show. From the doc fainting, to the dead twins from ep 1 egging the house, to that glimpse of the dead mistress smirking at the door.....this show is a trip.

 

I do have to ask if anyone else thought Zachary Quinto portrayed a stereotypical gay man, considering he just came out a week or two ago.

 

And who...or what...is in the gimp suit?

 

post #73 of 220
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Yeah, that was one of the more ridiculous "gay" performances I've seen. I did like when he had a humungous snit fit about Connie Britton's K-mart witch costume though.

post #74 of 220

Did the partner actually refer to them as "halloqueers" for halloween?  That was....different.

 

The Gimp didn't like the red apples, either.

 

post #75 of 220

Lange trying to drag her dying daughter to the House of the Undead was legitimately affecting. I've personally seen relationships with that mix of love and resentment; it's got to be the most realistic thing this crazy show has portrayed. The fact that she died as a result of one of the few nice things Lange likely ever did for her was quite a sad/ironic turn.

 

I do think I can see how this series can transition into a season 2: McDermott and Britton both die, allowing them to try to help the next family that has the misfortune to move into their house, while attempting to resolve their own conflicts and free themselves and everyone else from the unnatural hold the house has over their spirits.

post #76 of 220
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Hallowqueens, I think. That'd make more sense.

post #77 of 220
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And is the fact that the maid looks completely different to both of them ever going to come up in conversation?



Why would it?  The both see what they want to see. This show is getting better.  The crazy dead mistress freaked me out a bit.

post #78 of 220

I love that Denis O'Hare is turning into a creepy version of the "I want my TWO DOLLARS!" kid from Better Off Dead.  

 

Great cliffhanger this week.  This show keeps piling stuff on like they expect to be cancelled at any moment.  

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The crazy dead mistress freaked me out a bit.

Will that count as cheating when she and McDermott get it on?
post #80 of 220

I still think Lange and her daughter are dead like everyone else on this show, thus Addies ability to materialize throughout the house. I also thought this incident was a replay of Addies actual death, maybe it replays yearly?? 

While Quinto's performance may of been over the top into gay stereotype (I am not the one to judge this), I thought he played an excellent bitchy, boozy, and jealous wife. Now with a Rose Marr's baby added to the mix I am looking forward to gettting into next weeks nonsense. This is one seriously crowded house.

post #81 of 220

I don't recall Addie ever disappearing like her (assumed) brother does. Lange seems too self-aware to be caught in a looping replay.

 

Plus, they made it pretty clear in this episode that Halloween is the only time the dead can leave that house. That makes Lange, Addie and Two-Face living, breathing people. It's also more interesting if some of the characters entangled with the house are there by choice.

post #82 of 220
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I'm pretty sure there haven't been any rules established at all, let alone rules they wouldn't happily break. I mean, this isn't exactly going to be Breaking Bad. They've made it clear that shit is just going to keep happening, Nip/Tuck style. I don't know that this show could surprise me at this point. If it turns out Dylan McDermott was secretly a shaved bigfoot, it would be just the latest crazy thing they did.

post #83 of 220

I'm a little confused.  Are we supposed to believe that McDermott's character actually believes that Hayden is still alive and somehow faked get pounded across the head with a shovel and then buried under a gazebo?   

 

This poor house is getting crammed with ghosts.  So far we've got the crazy doctor's wife, Zach Quinto, Leather Suit Guy, the two murdered nurses, the hot/not-hot maid, possibly Lange, possibly now her daughter, possibly Tate and now maybe Hayden, too.  I keep waiting for a Marx Brothers-like scene where Connie Britton opens a closet door and all the fucking ghosts just spill out into the hallway.  

post #84 of 220
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I'm a little confused.  Are we supposed to believe that McDermott's character actually believes that Hayden is still alive and somehow faked get pounded across the head with a shovel and then buried under a gazebo?   

 

This poor house is getting crammed with ghosts.  So far we've got the crazy doctor's wife, Zach Quinto, Leather Suit Guy, the two murdered nurses, the hot/not-hot maid, possibly Lange, possibly now her daughter, possibly Tate and now maybe Hayden, too.  I keep waiting for a Marx Brothers-like scene where Connie Britton opens a closet door and all the fucking ghosts just spill out into the hallway.  



Well, if you see someone that's supposed to be dead, I doubt your first thought is going to be, "GHOST!"... He isn't supposed to know he's a character in a ghost story.

 

There's more ghosts than that, too. Quinto's boyfriend, the house's original owner's wife, and probably the nutso groupees that died a few episodes ago. I wonder how they decide who gets to come out and play... a work schedule? Rock-paper-scissors?

 

Lange's no ghost though. Tate pretty obviously is - apparently he murdered his classmates some time ago (80s? Based on the clothes), then must have died in the house after. So much shit happens in this show, I'd nearly forgotten about his dreams of murdering them he revealed in therapy. I still kinda expect Leather Suit to end up a character we already know / know of...

post #85 of 220

Rolling Stone's take on the show is sort of interesting:

 

RS: 'American Horror Story' Will Restore Your Faith in Ryan Murphy's Dark Side

post #86 of 220

Did anyone else think the DOG was a ghost?? I thought that when it came running into the bedroom after getting tv dinner-ed. I know Hayden told the cop it was just tomatoes, but I wasn't convinced.

Also, my crush on Kate Mara? It went bye-bye.

post #87 of 220
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Also, my crush on Kate Mara? It went bye-bye.


Actually, I thought she was quite sexy in a grimy, pale corpsey way.  

 

post #88 of 220
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Lange's no ghost though. Tate pretty obviously is - apparently he murdered his classmates some time ago (80s? Based on the clothes), then must have died in the house after. So much shit happens in this show, I'd nearly forgotten about his dreams of murdering them he revealed in therapy. I still kinda expect Leather Suit to end up a character we already know / know of...


See, I was so sure Lange and Addie were still alive (before), but didn't that picture of Addie and Tate look pretty recent?  Is it supposed to be a picture from before Tate died, or is it his ghost? 

 

post #89 of 220

You know what, I bet McDermott and Britton and Farmiga are actually ghosts too.  We just don't know it yet.  That's the twist for the season finale.

post #90 of 220
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You know what, I bet McDermott and Britton and Farmiga are actually ghosts too.  We just don't know it yet.  That's the twist for the season finale.


Maybe Britton actually murdered her whole family in Boston once she caught her husband cheating?  I can almost buy that.  

 

This may be the most stridently anti-infidelity show in a long time.  They sure are making McDermott suffer for his wandering dick.  

 

post #91 of 220
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Maybe Britton actually murdered her whole family in Boston once she caught her husband cheating?  I can almost buy that.  

 

This may be the most stridently anti-infidelity show in a long time.  They sure are making McDermott suffer for his wandering dick.  

 



It's like Fatal Attraction directed by George Romero.

 

I still think the dog is dead, the story about the tomatoes in the microwave was a cover for the rent-a-cop. Speaking of which, I think he's going to become our normal in this story. After all, everyone else in the house is either a ghost or is going to be a ghost by the end of this story.

 

I especially loved that walk of shame at dawn as the ghosts shambled back to the House. Such depressive dejection on the part of everyone. I wish we could have seen the young version of the maid. She's as much of a victim of the house as anyone.....

 

post #92 of 220
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Maybe Britton actually murdered her whole family in Boston once she caught her husband cheating?  I can almost buy that.  

 

This may be the most stridently anti-infidelity show in a long time.  They sure are making McDermott suffer for his wandering dick.  

 



It's interesting that the Rolling Stone article I posted above actually argues that the show is anti-monogamy.

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See, I was so sure Lange and Addie were still alive (before), but didn't that picture of Addie and Tate look pretty recent?  Is it supposed to be a picture from before Tate died, or is it his ghost? 

 



My take was that the picture was from before Tate died. Addie looked younger (at least shorter), although admittedly with her condition that's hard for me to discern accurately.



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You know what, I bet McDermott and Britton and Farmiga are actually ghosts too.  We just don't know it yet.  That's the twist for the season finale.



I'm tellin ya, that's the season 2 plot!



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It's interesting that the Rolling Stone article I posted above actually argues that the show is anti-monogamy.



That seems a stretch. It has barely portrayed monogamy - nearly everyone cheats, and everyone who cheats ends up dead and/or haunted. I don't forsee a happy ending for the show's main cheater, either. Violet better not start making eyes at Rubber Man if she knows what's good for her...

post #94 of 220

   I think the dog is dead. Hayden just didn't want to tell the cop what was really going on.

 

   I'm hooked on this show for how crazy it is. That said, the scene with the maid and her mother was moving.

 

 


Edited by Chaz - 11/5/11 at 10:51pm
post #95 of 220

Watching Connie Britton eat a bloody brain.  Cross that off my bucket list.  

 

 

post #96 of 220

Jesus Christ this show. I thought the opening scene with Tate was disturbing, but then watching a woman I find incredibly attractive eating a raw brain? And ENJOYING it? Man.....

And Jessica Lange is killing it in this show.

post #97 of 220
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Jesus Christ this show. I thought the opening scene with Tate was disturbing,


Few things scare me so much as a crazy person with a gun.  Ugh, that opening.  And yet I still somehow felt sorry for Tate at the end. 

 

The only thing I didn't like was how the Modern Family guy ended up biting it.  Just seemed too coincidental.  Unless we're supposed to believe that the house's influence reaches that far?

 

post #98 of 220

 I didn't buy  that Violet would what to be anywhere near Tate after finding out what he did. Its one thing to watch crazy shit, sex with a dude in a gimp suit that possibility produces a demon spawn for instance, but wanting to date a ghost who went on a killing spree is where I stop suspending my disbelief.

 

post #99 of 220

Chaz, it is tough to comprehend, as most people would not want to admit they could stay in any type of relationship with a monstrous person.

 

However, I look at it in terms of a young girl who is having a relationship with say a young gang member. It is usually a girl who is from a troubled home (check), who is acting somewhat out of rebellion (check), who enjoys their protection (check), who also enjoys drama (check), and feels that her love can change the bad boy (no check here but possible). Tate is good looking, cares about her, is obviously in pain (which inspires some sympathy in her).   Also, we do not know if she intends to stay in a relationship with him. Her actions could also be viewed out of fear. Many women stay with men out of fear violence from these men should they attempt to leave. So I am waiting to see how the writers play out the scenario...does she look past his actions and attempt to love the bad boy? Or is she simply scared, in over her head and desperate for an exit?

 

 

That Rolling Stone article has greatly influenced my perception of the show. The old horror show cliche of why the fuck do they stay in that house as allegory for the modern family....why the fuck do they stay together? Connie Brittons speech to her husband was so loaded with venom and hatred, it was very well done. She has made it clear she hates his guts and will punish him for the remainder of their association. She laid out the situation, you are done, I will never trust, love or even treat you with respect again. I understand the children necessitate some measure of contact between the two of us, but dont expect me to even be civil. The Husband is left in an impossible situation, he has to endure anything she throws at him in order to be a father to his children and extricate them from their financial difficulties. And no I am not taking the husbands side, he stuck it in a pretty young thing and is reaping what he has sown. They gave his reasons in his speech (she withdrew emotionally and physically from him after she lost a pregnancy). But that was merely set up for the situation the creaters are showing you. Two people in a hellish relationship who get tied deeper and deeper together through reacting to circumstance.  What will the cost be to their child, to themselves? Will they forge a new relationship through mutual understanding and complicit guilt? Those are the questions I am hoping the show addresses going forward.

 

I also wonder if the creators read Danielwekis' House of Leaves, which was a (I think) great novel that explored marriage through the exploration of a mysterious house.

 

 

post #100 of 220
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 I didn't buy  that Violet would what to be anywhere near Tate after finding out what he did. Its one thing to watch crazy shit, sex with a dude in a gimp suit that possibility produces a demon spawn for instance, but wanting to date a ghost who went on a killing spree is where I stop suspending my disbelief.

 



But she got to know him before knowing all the crazy shit.  And maybe she does believe the house did it.  Or she accepted that she has to help him cross over.  We don't know what it means yet that she cuddled with him.

 

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