Don't know why I didn't start a main Franchise Me thread months ago.
Don't know why I didn't start a main Franchise Me thread months ago.
Is this really pulling a New Nightmare or half-assing it? The kids know all about Hellraiser -- oh, excuse me, Hellworld -- and they have Chatterer masks and recordings of all of Pinhead's iconic lines on the computer. But then everybody talks about LeMerchand like he's a real human being.
Six years later and I still don't have a clue. (EDIT: Typed this literally twelve seconds before hitting that point of the review; at least I'm not the only confused one!) Though as little as it matters, I don't think the Cenobites are ever 'real'; I think the kids are still trapped in the box at the end, and Lance Henriksen is still fucking with their heads.
Yeah I can't bring myself to genuinely contemplate what the Cenobites actually showing up at the end might mean for the story. Cause it is so clearly just a way to "weird things up" and get some Pinhead in there.
I also liked that the key component to the black guy's death was that he was asthmatic, which I feel was barely established before it became relevant midway through the movie.
The most frustrating thing about Hellworld is that Lance Henriksen is exactly the right kind of actor for a Hellraiser film. Imagine a film where Henriksen seeks out the Lament Configuration for his own pleasure and then gets more than he bargained for. Lance Henriksen as a Frank figure. It would be great casting. I'd probably even be okay with another Inferno ripoff if it starred Henriksen. But instead we get Hellworld. Such a wasted opportunity.
Indeed. I think the franchise needed an installment where an anti-hero is scouring Asia or Eastern Europe for the puzzle box, like we can presume Frank did, searching out the Asian merchant in the first film. All the films are about people who easily or accidentally stumble upon the box.
And Lance would've been great for such a film.
To be fair, the Chinese guy was supposed to be the same person as the vagrant; the watcher and protector of the box.
I read Hellraiser: Pursuit of the Flesh last night with the first film in the background, and I noticed something. Joshua, you said you don't like the Cenobites' home being specified as Hell in Hellraiser II, but it's referred to as much in the silly Kirsty line. Her "Go to hell!!" is met with, "We can't. Not alone."
And it has all built up to this.
You asked for suggestions for the next franchise to dig into... I would love to see you tackle either the Godzilla films, or the Star Trek movies.
The Hellraiser critiques have been incredibly enjoyable. Thanks for all the hard work!
Seconding (thirding? Reiterating?) the vote for American Ninja. Curious to see your take on a franchise that pretty much starts at rock bottom then sort of flails around for several sequels. I'd also throw out the National Lampoon Vacation series, Kickboxer/Bloodsport (the "we couldn't afford Van Damme anymore" double threat!), Universal Soldier (in a bizarre way, the recent one is sort of Van Damme's Rocky Balboa or Rambo), the Muppet movies and the Highlander films as possible contenders. Fuck, mainly I'm just pumped for more Franchise Me.
Star Trek would be interesting as well, but the Red Letter Media reviews sort of tore those things to bits already. I'd also like to see Godzilla, but Wikipedia has that bad boy clocked in at 29 films (not sure if that even includes the American one).
I suggested it in another thread a couple of months ago and I'll say it again: The Muppets. It is as far from horror as you can get, each movie tackles a different genre, and you can review the new Jason Segel/Amy Adams movie once you tackle the older flicks.
Yeah, MUPPETS is a great idea. The only problem is it gets a little fuzzy about where one draws the line between "The Muppets" and other Henson creations, considering that Kermit would often pop up on SESAME STREET.
I have a sick desire to do STAR WARS. And by that I mean really do STAR WARS. The holiday special, the DROIDS cartoon, Ewok tv movies, CLONE WARS, etc, etc. But at the same time, the six films have been discussed to death.
Someone suggested the FAST & FURIOUS franchise, which I kinda like too.
What do other people think of THE MUPPETS idea? The timeliness of it appeals to me the same was doing PLANET OF THE APES and HELLRAISER did, climaxing with a new release.
Well, you already know that I'm pro towards this idea. The only thing that I would suggest is to focus on the original tv series and the theatrical Muppet movies. You open up the door for way too many tv specials and spin offs if you don't keep it somewhat focused.
Barker had some input on reshoot material for Hellseeker. I remember Bota showed him an early cut of the film, Barker liked it, and gave him some suggestions when they did additional photography.
I'd probably skip the original TV series.
OMG u gez!! I thought that the guy who played Nico in REVELATIONS looked familiar, but I assumed I'd just seen him on an ep of some TV show or something. But whilst eating dinner tonight I discovered he's a waiter at the restaurant across the street from me. This in itself is hardly interesting, except for the fact that the lead actress from YELLOW BRICK ROAD is also a waitress there. Two actors from two of my least favorite horror movies of 2011! I've seen so many crappy horror movies in the last year, I'll need to start looking closer at the faces of the Bird's Cafe staff. I bet they all work there.
The Muppets are a fantastic idea. I'd skip the shows, but you can probably include the telefilms.........all of which are widely available.
The Muppet Movie (1979)
The Great Muppet Caper (1981)
The Muppets Take Manhattan (1984)
The Muppet Christmas Carol (1992)
Muppet Treasure Island (1996)
Muppets From Space (1999)
Kermit's Swamp Years (2002)
It's A Very Muppet Christmas Movie (2002)
The Muppets Wizard of Oz (2005)
The Muppets (2011)
That'll give you 10 articles and should more than cleanse your palette of the taste of DTV shit. Hell, even the crap Muppet films have at least some funny parts to them. You'll have even more if you cover the TV specials, but some of those might be pretty hard to come by. Personally, I'd just stick with the above.
It would be kind of cool to see how one fictional universe branched and then went down very distinct paths.
I've stayed away from the comic book heroes because, yeah, it may be too much. And I don't mean in a workload sense, as at the end of the day doing three five-film franchises isn't really any different than doing one fifteen-film franchise -- I still had to watch fifteen films either way. My bigger concern is being able to discuss the franchises in the same "meaningful" way I have been currently, and that becomes trickier to do when a franchise spans 70+ years and all conceivable mediums. But I'm doing The Muppets next, and that may be a good test model, as I'm only going to do the six theatrical films (for the same reasoning). So maybe I'll do some Batman leading up to DARK KNIGHT RISES.
Or a short burst series of twofers that didn't really go full franchise:
American Werewolf in London/Paris
Escape from NY/LA
The Fly/The Fly II
Pitch Black/That Other One
Sorry I didn't chime in on the last one; I've only seen the first Hellraiser film.
If I could locate copies of all the ROBOCOP TV series (which are shockingly numerous), that would be awesome.
FYI: next up - starting tomorrow hopefully - will be the Muppet theatrical films.
Good lord, if there's more than than the ones they have on Netflix, I don't want to know about 'em.
Ye ole Wikipedia lists these:
RoboCop: The Series (1994) which starred Richard Eden, Yvette Nipar, and Andrea Roth.
RoboCop: Prime Directives (2000) - A four-part television mini-series, continuing the storyline from the film series; producers used footage from the original Robocop (1987) film.
RoboCop: The Animated Series in the 1980s
RoboCop: Alpha Commando in the late-1990s.
It would make for a fun 5-part series........................The Fly, Return of the Fly, Curse of the Fly, The Fly '86, and The Fly II.
Hell, you could do the four versions of Body Snatchers at some point if you wanted to............three of which have always seemed loosely connected to one another.
I did think about mentioning Kermit's Golum moment, just cause it feels different now in our post-TWO TOWERS world, but it didn't really fit into anything I was talking about.
You know, the weird irony is, I sat here for 10 minutes trying to remember the last two pieces of music that mentioned rainbows. I came up with Insane Clown Posse and Radiohead. If that's not the everlasting proof that Muppets are universal, I don't know what is.
Great article regardless, and nails everything amazing about this flick.
That last shot gets me every single time.
No, I understand totally, although I can't say it really feels like a "Gollum" moment to me even now. More like a spiritual crossroads deal.