2011/12 MLB Offseason Thread - Page 2

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Originally Posted by NickP 

I understand, I would do the same, that's because I'm looking out for #1 first.  BUT, don't say you want to play for a "competitive" team, then handcuff them at the same time.  That's all I'm saying.

 

If he wanted to be competitive, he'd stay in Milwaukee.  They just offered him 125 for 6 years.

 

Oh, I agree; getting the max money and signing with a competitive team are two mutually exclusive actions for any city beside New York or Boston.

I actually think that the Brewers made their peace with his absence as soon as the season ended and that they have acted sensibly in their offer; they could probably pay him close to what he wants (they draw HUGE numbers at Miller Park) but they know that they will just be crippled by his contract.  

My guess is that Prince ends up in Washington where he can save face by saying that the club is on the rise and that he will help to push them into a winning record.  Unfortunately, the Nats will only get a couple of seasons of winning baseball with all of their prospects until they have to start paying them decent money through arbitration.

And now for the news of the inevitable, it turns out the SEC is investigating the Marlins finances.  This will end well. 

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Originally Posted by Ben W 

 

And now for the news of the inevitable, it turns out the SEC is investigating the Marlins finances.  This will end well. 

 

No need to fear, PULJOS is here... for ten fucking years.  Yes, a 10 year contract has been offered to Alberta from Miami. 

Weren't the Marlins recently spreading that "is he really 31?" rumor?

Man, the Marlins are suspiciously flush. A ten year, nine figure deal for a 31 year old is never a good idea.

Prince just got super excited.

Albert ain't leaving St. Louis.

death threats aren't cool.

Angel Pagan up in this mufucker. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, Don't sweat the technique.

Pagan is just a slightly better Torres. I just don't understand what the Giants are doing this offseason.

According to USAToday, 3 teams have offered Albert Pujols 10yr/$200mil deals. They are the Cardinals, Marlins, and a mystery team. That mystery team is NOT the Cubs, as they have only offered him a 7yr deal. USAToday speculates the mystery team could be: Mariners, Rangers, Natinals, or the Orioles. The Mariners and Natinals are also interested/pursuing Prince Fielder.

I STILL honestly believe Albert stays in St Louis. If he leaves I'll mail you each a dollar.

So, the Marlins are supposedly out on Pujols and are in for 6 years on CJ Wilson.  So it could be CJ, Reyes and Bell for the big Miami splash.  The combination of the reveal of the new uniforms and some laughable free agent moves has made for a pretty bad offseason for the dubiously cash flushed fish.

Hanley Ramirez isn't happy, according to reports.  Hey, I know a great place where he could play short, and be on a competitive team.  Hanley, you like beer?

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Originally Posted by NickP 

Hey, I know a great place where he could play short, and be on a competitive team.  Hanley, you like beer?

Ooooh, that would be awesome and HanRam has a relatively reasonable deal (15-16 mil per next three years.)  If they added someone like Casey Kotchman for a reasonable price ... YAHTZEE!

And if the Marlins signed Reyes and had to trade Ramirez as a result, then they had a REALLY fucking bad offseason.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/dailypitch/post/2011/12/albert-pujols-agrees-to-10-year-250-million-deal-with-angels/1?loc=interstitialskip

You have to be fucking shitting me......

You think he'll still play 1st for the Angels or will he be their DH?  'Cause money being roughly equal, I'd take the job where I'm not standing on first base for nine innings.

The word is that Trumbo or Morales will be traded (Morales might just be non-tendered) and Pujols will play first.  You can't pay a DH $26 mil a year.

And where are these teams getting this money?  They are supposedly still in for CJ Wilson and they have quite a few AWFUL contracts (Wells and Hunter) on their books.

I think he'll play both. I have to think this he made this move with his future in consideration. He can just move to DH later in the deal when he's in his late 30's/early 40's. I HOPE that's what he was thinking, and not just cause he got $3mil more a year from them vs the Cardinals.

As for the Cardinals? shit, get Fielder on the phone ASAP.

This news seriously depresses me.

Fielder will end up in Seattle.  Just have a feeling.

Well, Brewers are looking pretty good right now, specially with the talk of them being front runners for Aramis Ramerez. Bring back K-Rod, and our bullpen is rock solid.  I'm expecting another division title next year.

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Originally Posted by DamnDirtyApe 

. He can just move to DH later in the deal when he's in his late 30's/early 40's. 

Wait, he isn't there already?

I don't think this Pujols deal is that bad.  I mean, it's bad, but it's probably not going to be as bad as its made out to be.

He's the biggest name in baseball, a proven winner, can DH in four or five years; and, while the Angels will have to eat 3-4 shitty years on the back end, who's to say 25 million will seem like such a huge salary in seven years time?  It's not ARod bad, at least.

The last 10 year/quarter billion deal was a disaster for the team that doled it out. Not sure if it'll be different this time.

yeah, because 25 million a year for a player he has peaked, has had injuries, and is going to be 32 before the season starts, is way smart.

It will probably be fine for 3 or 4 seasons, but once AP get's to be 38, 39... what then?

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Originally Posted by NickP 

 but once AP get's to be 38, 39... what then?

The latest in performance enhancing drug technology, obviously

I just heard on the radio that, business wise, the Angels should get a $500mil-$1billion increase in revenue JUST from the Pujols signing (and that's over the course of those 10yrs).

I'LL be rooting for the Angels next year, at least AL-wise.

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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel 

This is great news for Cub fans.  Pujlos out of St. Louis and Fielder gonna leave milwaukee.  Evens things out a bit in that division.  I'd say the Cubs won't conted this year, but 85 wins could take that division.

Do the Cubs even have the talent to get to .500 next year?  The Cards could well have some solid pieces to work with.  Carpenter, Wainwright, Motte, Berkman, Holliday, Freese, etc.

Apparently the working title for "Avatar 2" is now "Anaheim Angels."

Ah yes....the life of a Cubs fan. "Wait till next year.", "Wait till a few years from now when all our bad contracts expire", "Wait till Pujols and Fielder leave the division", "Wait till we get a REAL manager", "Wait till goats are illegal in this country". You guys are insanely patient if your motto is WAIT WAIT WAIT.

I honestly believe that Cubs fans would hate it if their team won the world series. 

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Originally Posted by DamnDirtyApe 

According to USAToday, 3 teams have offered Albert Pujols 10yr/$200mil deals. They are the Cardinals, Marlins, and a mystery team. That mystery team is NOT the Cubs, as they have only offered him a 7yr deal. USAToday speculates the mystery team could be: Mariners, Rangers, Natinals, or the Orioles. The Mariners and Natinals are also interested/pursuing Prince Fielder.

 

I STILL honestly believe Albert stays in St Louis. If he leaves I'll mail you each a dollar.

So I talked to the other guys, and they had no problem with me being the middle man. So, if I could give you my address...

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Originally Posted by DamnDirtyApe 

According to USAToday, 3 teams have offered Albert Pujols 10yr/$200mil deals. They are the Cardinals, Marlins, and a mystery team. That mystery team is NOT the Cubs, as they have only offered him a 7yr deal. USAToday speculates the mystery team could be: Mariners, Rangers, Natinals, or the Orioles. The Mariners and Natinals are also interested/pursuing Prince Fielder.

 

I STILL honestly believe Albert stays in St Louis. If he leaves I'll mail you each a dollar.

So I talked to the other guys, and they had no problem with me being the middle man. So, if I could give you my address...

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Originally Posted by Bailey 

Do the Cubs even have the talent to get to .500 next year?  The Cards could well have some solid pieces to work with.  Carpenter, Wainwright, Motte, Berkman, Holliday, Freese, etc.

No LaRussa.  I wonder how much of his absence had to do with AP leaving.

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Originally Posted by Gabe T 

So I talked to the other guys, and they had no problem with me being the middle man. So, if I could give you my address...

 

I am a sad, teary-eyed, hungover, bitter MAN OF MY WORD. But you bastards are getting it all in pennies.
 

Just disband the A's.

So, anyone want to speculate on who wins the rights to Japanese phenom Yu Darvish? I have a feeling the Mariners, for some reason.

So yeah, Ryan Braun used PED's.  Are we at the point yet where they should just legalize this crap?

I just turned 31 like 2 months ago.  I can't, for the life of me, believe that Pujols is only a year older than me.  He looks 36.  Are we sure he's not Danny Almonte?

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Originally Posted by Rando 

So yeah, Ryan Braun used PED's.  Are we at the point yet where they should just legalize this crap?

I don't want to sound like a Pollyanna but I actually thought the drug testing was effective in deterring juicing. This is some extremely disappointing news.

But on the flipside, Manny has been reinstated from his PED suspension. So, I guess it all shakes out in the end.

On behalf of all Brewer fans, I want to sum up the collective reaction.

FUCK!

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Originally Posted by Rando 

So yeah, Ryan Braun used PED's.  Are we at the point yet where they should just legalize this crap?

That's just sheer fucking stupidity on Braun's part. 

If NOTHING else, use HGH and EPO. Undetectable, and not on the banned list, respectively. Better yet, don't use PEDs. 

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Originally Posted by EvilTwin 

 

FUCK!

ditto

Aramis Ramirez blows.

As a Cards fan, I naturally hate the guts of every other team in the Central, but I actually like Ryan Braun. That was some pretty disappointing news. I am THIS fucking close to being completely done with baseball.

I sure am glad federal prosecutors spent tens of millions of dollars to get Barry Bonds to pay a $4,000 fine.

Braun + Herpes + Meds = positive test

So he literally herp derped?

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Originally Posted by NickP 

Braun + Herpes + Meds = positive test

Where did you hear that?

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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel 

Aramis Ramirez to the Brewers.  He had a great run for the 2003 playoffs but never hit when it matttered since.  He would suck for 3 months and get hot when the Cubs were out of it.  He won't be able to carry the brewers the 50 games Braun is suspended.

I think the thought process is more for Greinke/Slocum/Gallardo/Wolf to pick up the slack for the lack of offense. 

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Originally Posted by Ben W 

Where did you hear that?

1250 WSSP.. Sports station in Milwaukee.