I was very excited to see the American Reunion movie. I saw American Pie just after college and remembered it was quite funny.
Jim, Michelle, Oz, Heather, Stifler reunite for their high school...
If Michael Bay did both I imagine he did it in a really sad self-loathing way. Like he made Shia blindfold himself and screamed anti-semitic remarks while fucking him, then had Fox join in.
I can only imagine the epic Category 5 shitstorm that would touchdown in Hollywood if this supposed sex-book blog was made public by a hacker. Every gossip site would crash, careers would implode, Diva would power-up like a Dragonball Z character, it would be insane.
I shouldn't have read this thread. Now I want to take a shower. And it's not even the sex that's bothering me. Given the opportunity I'd be pretty much fucking anything with a pulse. And I'd gladly have sex with a woman to further my career. It's only sex after all.
It's this damn high school mentality that's creeping me the fuck out.
I was never really a fan of his directing, I sort of enjoy RED DRAGON but it's nothing special. However, until the revelations of this thread I had no real opinion on Ratner the human being. Now I can only state that he seems repulsive
If Michael Bay did both I imagine he did it in a really sad self-loathing way. Like he made Shia blindfold himself and screamed anti-semitic remarks while fucking him, then had Fox join in.
I dunno, just seems like that type of guy.
You do know Robert Evans (producer of The Godfather and Rosemary's Baby) is/was not only a huge pussy hound, but was notorious for having women pee on him during sex.
And Robert Evans lives in Brett Ratner's guest house. They're good friends. God knows what else goes on in that dungeon.
Stern is exactly the kind of leering, slimy pervert that would enjoy that type of information, I'm not surprised.
You say that like it's a bad thing? Personally, I'm more concerned about the people who deny/ suppress perverted feelings as opposed to those who openly embrace them. BABA BOOEY!
You say that like it's a bad thing? Personally, I'm more concerned about the people who deny/ suppress perverted feelings as opposed to those who openly embrace them. BABA BOOEY!
It's unnatural, there are more things for a human being to think about than stuffing a penis the next reasonably moist hole one comes across. The emphasis on sex and debauchery that is our culture today is utterly disgusting.
It's unnatural, there are more things for a human being to think about than stuffing a penis the next reasonably moist hole one comes across. The emphasis on sex and debauchery that is our culture today is utterly disgusting.
You can blame religion for that. The utter choke hold it's had on (specifically American) culture for decades inevitably leads to perversion because it's repressing natural human traits like sexuality. The perversion is just the natural repressed feelings being vomited back up in grotesque form like a pressure cooker, so to speak.
You can blame religion for that. The utter choke hold it's had on (specifically American) culture for decades inevitably leads to perversion because it's repressing natural human traits like sexuality. The perversion is just the natural repressed feelings being vomited back up in grotesque form like a pressure cooker, so to speak.
Sounds like a Cronenberg flick.
You mean natural human traits like teenage pregnancy and widespread disease. Say what you want to about religion, man, at least you didn't have to ask for a list of people and animals that your potential sexual partner has penetrated/been penetrated by a hundred years ago.
You mean natural human traits like teenage pregnancy and widespread disease. Say what you want to about religion, man, at least you didn't have to ask for a list of people and animals that your potential sexual partner has penetrated/been penetrated by a hundred years ago.
I'm sorry, I'm still thinking about the "moist hole" post above.......
I'm sorry, I'm still thinking about the "moist hole" post above.......
Well, actually, if you're having actual human-level conscious thought about it, you're probably doing it wrong. It should be more like an undercurrent, from what I can tell.
It's unnatural, there are more things for a human being to think about than stuffing a penis the next reasonably moist hole one comes across. The emphasis on sex and debauchery that is our culture today is utterly disgusting.
Welcome to being a male. Hate to break it to you but guys like sex and sometimes talk about it openly and honestly. Stern just made it mainstream. Any idea how much pornography sells each year? Or did sell before torrents and everything made it easy to steal.
Welcome to being a male. Hate to break it to you but guys like sex and sometimes talk about it openly and honestly. Stern just made it mainstream. Any idea how much pornography sells each year? Or did sell before torrents and everything made it easy to steal.
Oh no doubt. But there's a difference between watching porn and occasionally taking openly and honestly about sex (which I have no problem with) and seemingly LIVING for the next time you can penetrate an orifice to the point that you spent 45 minutes of your hour-long show trying to convince a female guest to take her clothes off or bend over and spread her ass cheeks. It's mind-numbing and slovenly, don't confuse it for open, honest discourse about a somewhat taboo subject.
You mean natural human traits like teenage pregnancy and widespread disease.
No, I mean sex (and probably self expression) in general. America is still very prudish about sex and self expression and has been for ages. That's repression. When you repress something, it eventually comes out in stronger and more perverted ways. From serial killers to S&M freaks to Howard Stern.
No, I mean sex (and probably self expression) in general. America is still very prudish about sex and self expression and has been for ages. That's repression. When you repress something, it eventually comes out in stronger and more perverted ways. From serial killers to S&M freaks to Howard Stern.
Well yeah, but I'm saying that in the days when people were more prudish, at least you didn't have to recoil in terror when someone you didn't know got a paper cut or a nosebleed, because you might get a sexually transmitted disease that is normally only found in saltwater eels.
Who knows what people have been fucking these days? Who WANTS to know? Why is it such a hot topic? I'm baffled.
You could say the same thing about movies and music... in the end, it really only effects the people involved, but hearing about it and talking about a subject that all parties are interested in, is a form of entertainment. I can't recall how many trips to the bar, turns into "who fucked who, and how" converstations. I see them as no different then talking about what movie you saw. All part of life, we all do it... why act like it doesn't exist.
You could say the same thing about movies and music... in the end, it really only effects the people involved, but hearing about it and talking about a subject that all parties are interested in, is a form of entertainment. I can't recall how many trips to the bar, turns into "who fucked who, and how" converstations. I see them as no different then talking about what movie you saw. All part of life, we all do it... why act like it doesn't exist.
Maybe I have some sort of deficiency or something, because beyond my own sex life, I just really and truly do not care at all.
Maybe I have some sort of deficiency or something, because beyond my own sex life, I just really and truly do not care at all.
No, it's just who you are. I could talk to my dad all day about movies, and he would say "I don't give a fuck". Talk to him about sports, we'll go all night. All depends on the people.
Oh no doubt. But there's a difference between watching porn and occasionally taking openly and honestly about sex (which I have no problem with) and seemingly LIVING for the next time you can penetrate an orifice to the point that you spent 45 minutes of your hour-long show trying to convince a female guest to take her clothes off or bend over and spread her ass cheeks. It's mind-numbing and slovenly, don't confuse it for open, honest discourse about a somewhat taboo subject.
Have you ever heard the show? The girls aren't his famous guests who have real talent. We are talking strippers and porn stars who come on to do exactly that. Also the whole show isn't that and never has been. If it is acceptable to look at poronography it's acceptable for him to have a form of it on his show. And yeah he talks sex. He will ask a guy who the famous women he fucks are and apparently america has the same fascination, look at any gossip mag. Only thing wrong with Stern's show is he hasn't been funny since Artie's suicide.
No, it's just who you are. I could talk to my dad all day about movies, and he would say "I don't give a fuck". Talk to him about sports, we'll go all night. All depends on the people.
Oh, no doubt. It just seems weird that it seems to be such a widespread fascination, you know? Hard for me to understand it.
Have you ever heard the show? The girls aren't his famous guests who have real talent. We are talking strippers and porn stars who come on to do exactly that. Also the whole show isn't that and never has been. If it is acceptable to look at poronography it's acceptable for him to have a form of it on his show. And yeah he talks sex. He will ask a guy who the famous women he fucks are and apparently america has the same fascination, look at any gossip mag. Only thing wrong with Stern's show is he hasn't been funny since Artie's suicide.
It's the focus of his show, though. Yes, I've heard it. No, it wasn't funny or interesting even when I was 15 and in the clutches of that irrepressible hormone surge that comes along with the age. I guess it just didn't occur to me that some people never grow out of it or seek to rise above it.
I mean shit, I'm not wearing a halo in here. I'll talk about sex. Why not?
But the weird, greasy diatribe of "sex, sex, sex, sex, sex, sex, suck a banana, sex, sex" that seems to emanate from guys like Stern just weirds me out.
It's the focus of his show, though. Yes, I've heard it. No, it wasn't funny or interesting even when I was 15 and in the clutches of that irrepressible hormone surge that comes along with the age. I guess it just didn't occur to me that some people never grow out of it or seek to rise above it.
Zing!!! and for the record I don't even dig those part of his show as much because there is real porn out there to watch. The point I was making was that him talking sex and seeing naked women in his studio isn't evil and it certainly isn't anything to "rise above". Climb down off your high horse before you fall off.
Zing!!! and for the record I don't even dig those part of his show as much because there is real porn out there to watch. The point I was making was that him talking sex and seeing naked women in his studio isn't evil and it certainly isn't anything to "rise above". Climb down off your high horse before you fall off.
It's just the way he does it, you know? Maybe you don't know.
And that wasn't an attempted zing. Hell, I watch porn. I have a sex drive. But if you can't admit that there comes a point where people can get obsessed with something (whether it's sex or fantasy football) to the point that it becomes lamentable and depressing, then I guess I'm wasting my time. Dude is a weirdo, IMO. That's all.
It's unnatural, there are more things for a human being to think about than stuffing a penis the next reasonably moist hole one comes across. The emphasis on sex and debauchery that is our culture today is utterly disgusting.
Hey now, sex and debauchery aren't the problem and I won;t hear a word against them good sir! One can enjoy all sorts of erotic pleasures on a regular basis without resorting to the infantile, emotionally stunted, mysoginistic proto-fratboy douchebaggery on display here.
Sex is fucking wicked, being a complete narcissitic asshole? Not so much.
Let's not chuck the baby out with the bathwater here.
It's the skeevy nature of the Ratner comments, and Olivia Munn's anecdote, that are so creepy. (<if it really happened). Plus, there is that whole vibe of "in Hollywood you must engage in weird sex acts with skeevy Brett Ratner to have any chance of a career" that brings a level of degradation and corruptness to it.