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post #1 of 10
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AKA the reason I am drinking more these days.

 

So it looks like the Players Association is NOT going to take the deal being offered by the owners, who gave them a bullshit ultimatum of Wednesday.

 

To recap - players were getting 57% of league revenue, and the league's owners thought this program was losing them money. The owners eventually rejected player proposals that took that percentage to 52% (a loss of about a billion in player profits), and have been pitching a 50/50 split. The latest deal is revenue based, and suggests that, if the league profits heavily, the players share could rise to 51%, or if it doesn't it falls to 49%. However, not only are these numbers dependent on the owner and teams' accounting, but the players union understands it comes out to, realistically, a 50.2% maximum share, and that the potential of 51% is illusory.

 

Meanwhile, if the players don't take the current deal, the owners say their next offer will only allow a 47% revenue share and a very hard cap, with a group of separate owners (spearheaded by Michael Jordan, being a total dillhole) pitching only a 37% player share.

 

Meanwhile, the union is most likely going to decertify, a lengthy process that, if it occurs, essentially means this entire season is lost.

 

I see the players' side. I see the owners' side. I agree with the players on this, because there is no way in HELL that this lockout won't end (under any circumstances) and, five days later, some jackass owner will bid against himself and give Jamal Crawford $60 million. In other word,s the owners are desperate for new fail-safe strategies that prevent them from being idiots, but, let's face it, they're often idiots (with the exception of the guy who runs the Thunder).

 

So... um... I guess this can be the thread for discussion of the NBA. NBA stories involving idle players. Guys going overseas. Who might be the first recipient of the proposed Amnesty clause that allows a team to shed one onerous contract so that it doesn't get counted against the cap? If there's a shortened season, who wins the title?

post #2 of 10
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Well, the entire deal proposed by NBA owners can be found here.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/nba%20proposal%2011-11-2011.pdf

 

Highlights:

Owners want the right to contract two teams. Without telling the Players Union. What?

(Though I would like a league without the Bobcats and Kings).

And if the NBA owners spend too much, they can procure more funds from the players' own post-career benefits. Huh?

 

I would guess the players won't take the deal today. Next step is decertifying the union. After that, the season will most likely be lost.

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Well, the entire deal proposed by NBA owners can be found here.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/nba%20proposal%2011-11-2011.pdf

 

Highlights:

Owners want the right to contract two teams. Without telling the Players Union. What?

(Though I would like a league without the Bobcats and Kings).

And if the NBA owners spend too much, they can procure more funds from the players' own post-career benefits. Huh?

 

I would guess the players won't take the deal today. Next step is decertifying the union. After that, the season will most likely be lost.


At one time in the not too distant past the fans in Sacramento were considered to be, quite improbably, the best in the league.  The city has one more chance to get a decent venue to play the games in, and if that happens, they absolutely deserve their Kings.

 

post #4 of 10

As of today the players have rejected the proposal and are decertifying their union.  This begins the (very) lengthy process in which the players can bring the NBA to court with monopoly claims.  Assuming this is all true, this season is lost.  Assuming this is true, this could very well go beyond this season.

 

The expected first NBA move will be to void all player contracts as they are apparently no longer valid without the union?  I don't quite understand that part, but basically the NBA gets to make their own rules right now which ultimately will be what is used in court to show they have a monopoly.

 

At this point for the sake of basketball we need a Donald Trump or a Vince McMahon, somebody with enough money and enough ego to try their hand at a new league.  If the contracts are voided it really wouldn't be hard to start poaching big names from the NBA to keep them from fleeing overseas.

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post #6 of 10
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At this point, I was hoping for either

a) Some wacky billionaire would come along and form a ten-team superleague, or

b) There would be a fifty game season similar to 1999, with three-games-in-a-row weeks, players not knowing who each other were, and a proliferation of messy, sloppy 89-86 slapfests.

 

This is a good compromise. Though this will indefinitely lower the salary cap - what will this do to teams already capped out, like the Heat, Knicks, etc.? How exactly are they going to put a full team together? A lot of guys are going to be squeezed into signing for the veteran's minimum.

 

Oh, and I can't wait for the amnesty clause. There's going to be a SHITLOAD of player movement before now and Christmas.

 

My championship pick? Thunder defeats the Bulls in six games.

post #7 of 10

Tell me about it, Closer. I was literally going into withdrawl.

post #8 of 10

No shit.  Not being a fan of pretty much any other sport (apparently there's some type of superb bowl in a few months?) I've really been walking around aimlessly and spending way too much time playing NBA 2K12 over the past few months.

 

It will indeed be a merry Christmas, my friends.

post #9 of 10

I don't really start paying attention to the NBA until after Christmas anyway.  I kinda think a 50 or 60 game season is preferable to running 82, especially when the playoffs go on as long as they do.

post #10 of 10

Good news or so it seems.

 

52 games is a good season for the type of thugs and slackers that now occupy NBA basketball. I mean it doesn't really seem like they try that hard during the regular season.

 

Someone like myself who grew up watching basketball realizes the games don't really begin until April in these times anyways.

 

Here is hoping this takes the NBA in a positive direction. I can tell you that anyone who has been a fan around me is disgusted with the league and has no interest in buying season tickets.

 

Clean up the league commish and players.

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