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Zombie ammo. Clever marketing or irresponsible marketing?

post #1 of 10
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http://www.hornady.com/in-the-news/latest-news/zombie-max-ammunition

 

Kind of a clever way to capitalize on the zombie craze?  Maybe.  But would I market this if I thought there was even a chance some kid might not read the label and be more likely to think it was a toy?  Probably not.

post #2 of 10

It's funny. We live in a pretty stupid world when you have to spell things like this out. "Hey, these bullets that we've cleverly branded to cash in for pop culture bucks....don't shoot your friends with them, k?"

 

And I don't know about where you are but down here you have to provide ID, etc for ammo. So if some dumbass leaves this shit lying around for his kid to find then it's his fault for buying it and not stowing it and all his other ammo in a proper magazine.

 

Gun safes aren't that much anymore and you can buy used ammo crates, with locks, all over.

 

Those 12ga 00 shells look pretty badass.

 

post #3 of 10
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Originally Posted by TheGhost View Post

It's funny. We live in a pretty stupid world when you have to spell things like this out. "Hey, these bullets that we've cleverly branded to cash in for pop culture bucks....don't shoot your friends with them, k?"

 



Why is that stupid?  At the very least they should be labeled in such a way as to indicate they're not a toy to kids who don't know any better.

post #4 of 10

If you want to sell a box of empty, inert shells and label it "zombie ammo" that's fine, but the idea that real bullets that can kill real people are being marketed as a gag gift sits wrong with me. It's part of this culture's perverse gun fascination

post #5 of 10

It's stupid because they're clearly live ammunition?

 

zombiemax.jpg

 

The big white text box with the red WARNING: THIS IS LIVE AMMUNITION. THIS IS NOT A TOY.

 

Do you think that soldiers buy this shit? Or police? This sort of thing is for guys going to the gun range or goofing around in the field behind their house with their friends shooting cans or milk jugs. 

 

And I agree entirely Bailey...but why would a kid have them?

 

Kabar sells a line of "Zombie Killers" knives/machetes. Should you have to tell someone they're sharp? They do, by the way.

 

To me shit like this isn't any different than those big, dumb World of Warcraft or Lord of the Rings swords. If you dig it, buy it. The ammo is pretty stupid though, because honestly if you're shooting for shits and giggles there's way cheaper stuff to buy. I first saw the Zombie Max rounds in late August/early September and had the same reaction I do now. "Heh."

 

It's marketing. Silly, silly marketing for silly, silly people.

 

I would be more worried about the idiot that lets their kids get some "Zombie" killing ammo than the company for selling it. Don't you think?

post #6 of 10

Those are probably really good rounds, but they are overpriced. I can get a box of 20 7.62x39 for 10 bucks, and those are great bullets. Nice little gimmick, but I'm not buying any.

post #7 of 10

They're retailing for right around 22 from Hornady and 17-18 on most sites. From what I can see they're steel case though, so extraction problems go! I wouldn't buy them either.

post #8 of 10
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Why would a kid have them?  Why would a kid have any guns or ammunition?  That's not really the point. Boys don't need much prompting to play with guns if they, by some accident or sheer neglect, gain access to them.  I think we've done a lot to educate kids, and that firearm safety is probably at an all time high.  But, again, this is not the point.  Sure the ultimate responsibility falls on the store owners and the parents.  But that doesn't mean the company bears no responsibility.

 

So, then, why manufacture a brand of ammunition that is labeled something that would catch a kid's eye in a way normally associated with fiction and fun?  The label makes it clear, this is not a toy, you might respond.  But those labels only do so much.  If labels were foolproof in preventing gun accidents, there wouldn't be any.  This gets back to the idea of prompting.  If a boy is really curious about a gun that has been left out, and he sees a box of bullets with the word zombie on them, he might associate it with playing, with fun, with pretend.  And that might be just the thing he needs to think it's okay to mess with.  Or at least enough to override the part of his brain saying "no", and go with the side saying "yes."

 

Now, obviously this would be a very rare, very specific, not at all universal thing.  Most kids who find a gun lying around will not play with it, and there are some who would undoubtedly mess with it regardless.  But with tragedies like this, it only takes one incident to make a huge difference.  So why risk it for a cheap marketing gimmick?  If just one extra kid sees the word zombie and that makes him think it's fun and games as opposed to serious business, that's a problem.

 

It's not like this product offers any extra benefit to the hunter, the plinker, the guy using it for personal protection.  It's purely a joke.  And as I am sure most gun industry types would tell you- there's nothing funny about operating a firearm.

 

Ultimately do I think this should be outlawed?  Not necessarily.  But do I think it's something a conscientious, responsible company would market?  Not really.

post #9 of 10

I agree that it's dumb. But there's a whole orchard of "ifs" in there mang.

post #10 of 10
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True, but it takes a lot of ifs to get to a rare circumstance.  This would obviously be a rare circumstance.  Not to be repetitive, but with this kind of incident you're talking about something where one is one too many.

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