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post #1 of 60
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Beaks has a very very early review of the film over at aicn and it sounds amazing.

 

 

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Rian Johnson's LOOPER is a time travel film set some thirty years in the future before time travel has been invented. The title refers to hit men who've been contracted by gangsters thirty years off in the more distant future - where time travel, while banned, exists - to dispose of people where no one would possibly know to look for them. Basically, the loopers hang out in an inconspicuous location (a back alley, a field out in the country), wait for their bound-and-hooded quarry, and blast them with a blunderbuss the second they materialize. It's a split-second execution, after which the loopers retrieve silver taped to the back of their victims. This is their compensation. If the victim arrives strapped with gold bars, that means the looper has just offed his future self. This is the closing of the loop. Retirement. Commence thirty years of partying until their dying day.

 

But what happens if there's a moment's hesitation, and the looper somehow senses he's about to end his own life thirty years hence? Or, in the case of Joe (Joseph Gordon-Levitt), what happens if his older self (Bruce Willis) turns up with a plan to thwart his execution so he can run off and rummage through his past for personal reasons, thus jeopardizing young Joe's hard-earned retirement?

This is the clever central conflict of LOOPER: two versions of the same man - separated by thirty years - at odds with himself over his future. It's a rather heady quandary, but it's examined in the mainstream-skewing framework of a crackerjack sci-fi/action flick that recalls the genre-blending daring of the '70s and '80s. And it's not just a time travel movie. Just when LOOPER seems to be settling into one type of film, it veers off in another direction, then settles down again, then goes absolutely bonkers without sacrificing clarity of story or theme. This is masterful filmmaking - a stirring reminder that genre entertainment can be both smart and accessible.

 

The future world presented in LOOPER is dystopian, but this is only a problem for the have-nots. The loopers have, and they while away their non-killing hours hitting clubs, getting fucked up, and stashing away as much of their blood money as possible without running afoul of the Gat Men. Clad in black, armed to the teeth, and overseen by a mysterious man from the future (a wonderfully casual Jeff Daniels), the Gat Men police the loopers. They're the elite squad that gets called in when a looper neglects to murder his future self - and they are brutally efficient at using the younger looper to bring in the fugitive elder.

 

Joe doesn't seem the type to make this kind of mistake. He zips around in a vintage sports car, carries on with a hot-to-trot showgirl (Piper Perabo), and maintains an amicable relationship with the head of the looper program. But when one of Joe's twitchier colleagues (Paul Dano) shows up at his doorstep seeking shelter after failing to close his loop, he succumbs to a weakness of loyalty and hides the doomed bastard. This draws the heat of the Gat Men (including the hapless-but-dogged Kid Blue, played with hilariously psychotic zeal by Noah Segan), which plants the seed of doubt and knocks Joe off the easy-retirement path. There's decency lurking in this killer, the kind a good woman can tease out under the right circumstances.

 

But this is no straightforward tale of redemption; once Johnson's established his world, he hurls nothing but wicked curveballs until the final scene. The plot described above encompasses only the first third of the film; the minute Willis shows up as old Joe, everything is knocked off kilter, resulting in multiple track-downs of very different targets. Ultimately, young Joe is forced to seek sanctuary in a remote farmhouse owned by Sara (Emily Blunt), who's fiercely protective of her precocious son Cid, while waiting for the Gat Men - or perhaps the vengeful older Joe - to turn up.

 

And this is where it sucks to be reviewing a film ten months out from release, because I'd love nothing more than to dig into the mindblowing complications that ensue. Without giving too much away, Johnson strays into another subgenre - one of my favorites - and nails it emphatically. And it's a completely organic shift, one that requires an emotionally conflicted performance from Blunt. She's sensational in this movie, balancing shoot-first survival instincts, maternal depression and long-suppressed desire. 

 

Surface-wise, the most shocking element of LOOPER might be the bold physiognomical transformation of Levitt. Via the magic of carefully-applied makeup, he's altered his appearance - with a notable flattening of the nose - to more closely resemble Willis. It's startling, but not distracting. And since Levitt has gone this extra mile, Willis sort of meets him in the middle by acquiring some of his performance tics (there's a great slow-motion scene where Willis approaches a woman with Levitt's convivial bearing). But Willis also recalls his sad, broken-down character from 12 MONKEYS; his Joe is a man who gave up a great deal, got right with the universe, and isn't terribly happy with what he received in the bargain. And Levitt's young Joe is a character in transition, struggling to take stock of the man he might become while unavoidably living in the moment.

 

LOOPER is an intricately structured story enlivened by Johnson's trademark wit and wounded romanticism. It's an invigorating, thrilling, ceaselessly inventive film, a miracle in an era of by-committee studio filmmaking. And while it's still months from being finished, barring any postproduction monkey business, it's already a great movie. I can't wait to discuss it in greater detail.

 

Faithfully submitted,

Mr. Beaks

 

post #2 of 60

Man, oh man.  I will now comport myself with a convivial bearing for the rest of the evening.

post #3 of 60

I've been quietly seething with rage since last night because I was so close to getting into this screening.  God.  Fucking.  Damnit.

post #4 of 60

I read Devin's review of it last night.

 

One year away.  Guuuuuuuuuuuuh.

 

It sounds fantastic.

post #5 of 60

Reading the script.  Loving it.

post #6 of 60

I've got a second chance to see this this afternoon.  Same time, same place as the last screening.  Gonna leave work an hour early, which will hopefully be enough time to get a good spot in line.  Fingers crossed.

post #7 of 60

Good luck!

 

For a screening that I would imagine to be in high demand, I would try to get in line from 1.5 to 2 hours before!!

post #8 of 60

I'm a little wary of over-hyping this after the backlash I got from some of my friends on Attack the Block, but - fuck it.  It's really fucking great.  And from the snippets of conversation I got from the people around me, I'm not the only one who thought so.  One of the things I love most about Brick and Brothers Bloom is how deftly Johnson creates these rich, fully realized worlds for his characters to inhabit, and here he does it again with gusto.  Great performances across the board, and the twists keep coming till the final act.  Can't wait to see it again when it's released.

post #9 of 60

Goddamnyou... (jealous)

post #10 of 60

Not surprised to hear it's great (and it's hard to over-hype ATB!).  So. Fucking. Jealous.

post #11 of 60

Is there much action?  Is it filmed well?

post #12 of 60

If pressed to put the movie into a genre, I'd call it action/sci-fi, so, yes, there's quite a bit of action.  I'm not the most discerning viewer when it comes to action scenes (I mostly only notice when they're done poorly), but I'd say they were done really well.

post #13 of 60

I'm still kind of amazed that a film maker like Rian Johnson is able to exist. He is apparently three for three in his feature work, hasn't once had to take any studio pictures, and is able to attract some pretty amazing talent for his movies. The only things he's directed that he didn't write were an episode of Breaking Bad and an episode of Terriers.

 

You would think there would be a cabal of hacks out to destroy him at this point.

post #14 of 60

If we were making a category of director that included Johnson and Edgar Wright, who else would you put in there?  Are these guys the real deal post-Tarantino filmmakers?  (Not those knock offs that immediately sprouted up in the mid to late nineties.)  Genre innovators (didn't Refn say genre is the new progressive?), technical whiz kids, with personal, carefully crafted, and (so far) flawless resumes?

post #15 of 60
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If we were making a category of director that included Johnson and Edgar Wright, who else would you put in there?  Are these guys the real deal post-Tarantino filmmakers?  (Not those knock offs that immediately sprouted up in the mid to late nineties.)  Genre innovators (didn't Refn say genre is the new progressive?), technical whiz kids, with personal, carefully crafted, and (so far) flawless resumes?



Ridiculously early, but I'd be wiling to bet on Joe Cornish. And if the films of Tomas Alfredson's that I haven't seen are anywhere near as good as the ones I have seen, then him too.

post #16 of 60
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I wouldn't call The Brother's Bloom flawless (I wouldn't even call Brick flawless).  Alot of Johnson supporters didn't warm to it.  I didn't.  But it's still an impressive resume...honestly I don't think there are any Tarantino-esque successors at this point.  I find this period more in line with the mid to late 80s where guys like The Coens, James Cameron, Cronenberg, Soderbergh were coming up.

post #17 of 60
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I wouldn't call The Brother's Bloom flawless (I wouldn't even call Brick flawless).



A flawless resume doesn't have to contain all films without flaw.  Otherwise nobody would have one.

 

 

 

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honestly I don't think there are any Tarantino-esque successors at this point. 

 

I am not calling them Tarantino-esque.  That's actually kind of the opposite of what I was suggesting.  That the people who could be identified by such a label are perhaps not the real measure of his impact.

post #18 of 60
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A flawless resume doesn't have to contain all films without flaw. 


Eh....?

 

post #19 of 60

Poorly worded, but I think it's pretty self explanatory.  You don't have to make perfect movies to have zero blemishes on your CV.

post #20 of 60
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Poorly worded, but I think it's pretty self explanatory.  You don't have to make perfect movies to have zero blemishes on your CV.

 

Then why call it a flawless resume?  It has flaws.  Not big ones, but they're there. 

post #21 of 60

Sports analogy time:  You can have a perfect season while playing some less than perfect games.  In the end a win is a win.  (And sometimes winning ugly can even be more interesting, in a way.)

post #22 of 60
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In the end a win is a win.

 

I don't believe Brother's Bloom is a win, but whatever, fine... he's got a spotless fucking resume.

post #23 of 60

Duncan Jones?  Arronofsky?

post #24 of 60
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I don't believe Brother's Bloom is a win, but whatever, fine... he's got a spotless fucking resume.

 

I don't expect everyone to think that Brick, Brothers Bloom, and apparently Looper (or Shaun, Hot Fuzz and Scott Pilgrim, for that matter) are all good films.  But I thought we were disagreeing about if a body of work which included imperfect but still very worthwhile films, along with some great ones, could be considered "flawless."  Apparently what we were disagreeing about was if Brothers Bloom is even good.  Needless to say if you don't like Brothers Bloom, I understand why you don't think Johnson's resume is spotless, but I am not quite sure why it took us this many posts to figure out what we were actually talking about.

post #25 of 60

I don't understand people that don't like The Brothers Bloom. I think their souls must be broken.

post #26 of 60

There's a screening tomorrow night in Long Beach, CA.  If anybody wants me to forward them the info. then shoot me a PM.  I can't make it.  Also, FUCK.

post #27 of 60

It's saying something that I'm a huge comic book geek and diehard Whedon fan, yet this is probably the movie I'm most looking forward to this year. Just watched Brothers Bloom again this last weekend, and I continue to be head-over-heels in love with that movie. Johnson doing sci-fi with JGL, Willis and Blunt, with Shane Carruth apparently involved at some point along the way? It's like somebody reached into my brain and plucked out all the things I love and shoved them together. Can't wait.

post #28 of 60

Yeah, my heart is sorta crushed.

post #29 of 60
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There's a screening tomorrow night in Long Beach, CA.  If anybody wants me to forward them the info. then shoot me a PM.  I can't make it.  Also, FUCK.


Why oh fucking why do I have to be visiting my family on the east coast right now?

post #30 of 60

And why oh fucking why is this not a late spring or summer release? Effects work?

post #31 of 60

There were a couple unfinished shots when I saw it, and the audience questionnaire covered things like pacing and music, so they definitely still had some post work to do. 

post #32 of 60
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This is probably a long shot, but does anyone have a copy of this script they can possibly slip me?

post #33 of 60

Why do people do that? I would never want to read the script of a film I was anticipating before I saw the finished project.

post #34 of 60
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Why do people do that? I would never want to read the script of a film I was anticipating before I saw the finished project.


Not that I have to explain myself to you, but it's not what you think.  I'd actually rather avoid it, but It's necessary for me to read it if I can get a copy. 

post #35 of 60
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New images from WonderCon:

 

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Levitt's transformation into Willis via makeup is startling!

 

They showed the trailer, but I'm not sure when it will be released.  Really looking forward to this.

post #36 of 60
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Not that I have to explain myself to you, but it's not what you think.  I'd actually rather avoid it, but It's necessary for me to read it if I can get a copy. 


 

I'm very tempted to begin speculating why you need to get a copy of the script but would rather not. 

 

Does it involve some sort of Da Vinci Code type hidden messages within the text? Are you in a race against time searching for hidden treasure, Ambler? 

 

ETA - Levitt's Willis-Ification is freaking me out. 

post #37 of 60
Oh, you absolutely have to explain yourself to me. I run this shit like the eiron fist of Odin.
post #38 of 60
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Half the screen is covered and you can barely hear anything,  but here's the bootlegged trailer.

 

Even in this state, the film looks amazing!!!  Rian Johnson continues to impress me.

post #39 of 60

Horrible quality, but it's nice to see the blunderbuss in action.  The script isn't very flashy, but that footage is incredibly dynamic and cinematic.  I love it so far.

post #40 of 60
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Trailer is supposed to be released today, but I'm wondering when apple will get around to it.

post #41 of 60

It's already up.

post #42 of 60
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It's already up.

 

Link?  Not the teasers for the trailer we've been seeing the past 3 days, but the actual trailer.
 

 

post #43 of 60

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/looper/

 

It shows four teasers now instead of three.  It might take more time to load for some than others?  *shrug*

Keep reloading the page I guess.

post #44 of 60
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I'm only seeing the three old ones.  I will keep trying.

post #45 of 60

I got the fourth but it won't load past the 1/3 mark. The first-third looks fucking badass.

post #46 of 60

The whole thing is!  Rian Johnson just keeps getting better and better.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCNKahG1ksg&feature=youtu.be

post #47 of 60
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This is really annoying, I don't see shit but the last three teasers on apple trailers.  I'm not the only one having problems apparently either.

post #48 of 60

YouTube link in my last post.

post #49 of 60

Aaand this just shot up near the top of my Must See list for 2012.  Johnson is two for glorious two in my book.  

post #50 of 60

CAN.  NOT.  WAIT.

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