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100 Best Silent films.

post #1 of 81
Thread Starter 

We can do this just like we did the 100 best of 1930s.

I have a feeling that this might even move quicker than the 1930s list, but let me lay down some ground rules:


-"Best" is interchangeable with "most influential". We all understand the importance of films like Birth of a Nation and including them on this list will not automatically mean that we think you love the film.


-There are no date limits, this list goes from the inception of Film (celluloid) to modern day. This means precursors to motion pictures such as Edward Muybridge's Horse Photos are ineleigible because they were not shot on celluloid.


-The films must have no sync sound, some exceptions may apply such a Modern Times (1937) which does technically have a sync sound soundtrack, but the film must be silent in spirit.


-Short films are perfectly legitimate choices as most great works up to the 1920s were less than an hour in length, but you must defend the film's inclusion on the list.


- And finally since we are dealing with the birth of film as an art form, experimental films are fair game which leads me to my first choice.

 

 



1. The Kuleshov Experiment. (1910~1920)

Okay, I admit that i'm breaking the rules a bit because no account can agree on when Kuleshov's experimental short film was made and there even might have been multiple short films. Nobody even knows what exactly what the short film contained, but they all can agree on the idea behind it.

The Kuleshov short film is a seminal work in figuring out the power of the cut, how an editor can convey ideas and emotions to an audience by juxtaposing two different shots. It is what was behind the Russian Montage movement and has influenced every film made since. According to Kuleshov, the film took a shot of a starving man and then a shot of a bowl of soup. He then took a shot of a prisoner and a shot of an open cell door. He then switched the shots so that the starving man was looking at the open cell door and the prisoner was looking at a bowl of soup.

An associate of Kuleshov said the experimental film consisted of the same shot of the face of an expressionless actor and juxtaposed it with a bowl of soup, a girl in a coffin, and woman. What the experiment exactly showed doesn't matter, its the idea behind it that mattered. When this films was shown to the audience the audience automatically assigned a mood or emotion to the actor, not based on how he looked, but based on what he was looking at.

Wikipedia puts it better: "The implication is that viewers brought their own emotional reactions to this sequence of images, and then moreover attributed those reactions to the actor, investing his impassive face with their own feelings."

Yes there was editing before the experiments but Kuleshov's little film cemented the importance of the edit and how much of art of film depends on it.

There are many videos on youtube claiming to be Kuleshov's film and demonstrating it's point. I'm basically spoiled for choice on what to embed so I'm going with Hitchcock.
 


Edited by Tim K - 11/9/11 at 5:33pm
post #2 of 81

Silent films are my blindspot so I'll put up the only one that comes to mind....

 

2.  Metropolis

 

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Still impresses today.

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3.  THE PASSION OF JOAN OF ARC (1928)

 

Unbeatable, and Maria Falconetti gives the performance of a lifetime.

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Originally Posted by Tim K View Post-There are no date limits, this list goes from the inception of film to modern day.


I was about to say "well has there even been a silent film in the modern day," and then promptly smacked myself on the forehead and said "oh right, only that one movie that everyone's been raving about for months." But still, I really would love to see more silent movies. Not  throwbacks or periods pieces in black in white; modern-set films, telling modern stories, but without dialogue. That would be great.

 

Actually, there is one area where silent cinema thrives today...

 

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With the exception of the ones that are spin-offs of the feature-length movies, all of Pixar's short films have been silent. And I think they, as a singular body, more than qualify for a spot. I don't find any of them profound or life-changing (although Luxo Jr. holds an ENORMOUS spot in my heart. I remember watching that on Sesame Street when I was wee), but they are all cute, funny, and unique. Plus, the early ones represent important steps in the development of computer animation.

post #5 of 81

5.  BATTLESHIP POTEMKIN (1925)

 

I say that ALEXANDER NEVSKY is his masterpiece, but it's hard to deny the impact that BP had.

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6.  NOSFERATU (1922)

7.  SUNRISE (1927)

 

Because F.W. Murnau is a god.  One has never been topped for the vampire genre, and the other is a very moving story of love and redemption.  It's really cool that TMC showed SUNRISE a few months ago and I was able to show it to my wife...she loved it.

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8.

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1920, dir. Robert Wiene

 

The classic German Expressionist horror film that invented the "twist ending". The mind-blowing production design is a wonder unto itself & has yet to be topped.


Edited by Art Decade - 11/10/11 at 7:09pm
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9.

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1931, dir. Charlie Chaplin

 

If this wasn't in the Top 10, we'd likely have to start over.

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10. THE GOLD RUSH

 

My personal favorite Chaplin film.

post #10 of 81
Thread Starter 

11. The General (1926)

 

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Needs to be seen with an audience. It holds up beautifully and is one of the best action comedies of all time. 

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11. The General (1926)

 

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Needs to be seen with an audience. It holds up beautifully and is one of the best action comedies of all time. 


They played that in a local theater this past Summer.  I was out of town and missed it, unfortunately.  A coworker went and saw it and said it played perfectly with the audience.  So envious.

 

post #12 of 81

The blu of The General is stunning. The transfer makes it look like it was filmed yesterday. It's also pretty amazing just how contemporary the language of the comedy feels. Truly timeless.

 

12.

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1902, dir. Georges Méliès

 

The science fiction film is born.

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13. Sherlock Jr. (1924)

 

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Another Keaton masterpiece, featuring some of the most innovative special effects of the era. 

 

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13. The Last Laugh (1924)
14. Faust (1926)
15. Intolerance (1916)

16. Un Chien Andalou (1929)

17. Greed (1924)
18. Sherlock Jr. (1924)
19. Safety Last (1923)

20. Broken Blossoms (1919)
21. Dr. Mabuse : The Gambler (1922)
22. The Kid (1921)
22.The  Birth of a Nation (1915)

edit: Posted before I saw Mangy post on The Kid.
 

post #15 of 81

Uh...ok.

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19. Safety Last (1923)


LOVE this.

post #17 of 81

I need a ruling...would SILENT MOVIE (Mel Brooks) count?  It violates the 'no synch sound' rule, but it IS silent in spirit.  It only has one spoken word in it (and who Mel has speak it...genius).

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I need a ruling...would SILENT MOVIE (Mel Brooks) count?


You know it, dude.

 

post #19 of 81
Thread Starter 
Yeah, it counts.

And Parker, Could you back up each of your choices with a reason why you feel they need to be included on this list?
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23.  SILENT MOVIE (1976)

 

A self-aware silent film that features a pretty amazing array of talent, circa mid 70s.  Some of the comedy falls pretty flat, but when it works, it WORKS.  Marcel Marceau has the best moment.

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24.

 

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A year before Up, another, but different, film about looking back on love and life from old age.


You'll cry.

post #22 of 81

25. Die Abenteuer des Prinzen Achmed [The Adventures of Prince Achmed]

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1926, dir. Lotte Reiniger

 

Written & directed by female animator Reiniger & using silhouette animation of her own invention, this fairytale is the oldest animated feature film in existence.

 

Here's a recent theater performance of it: (Click to show)

 

post #23 of 81
The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1920)

If it doesn't scare the fuck out of you, you are fucking scary.

EDIT: Didn't see it already listed above.
Edited by bendrix - 11/10/11 at 11:22am
post #24 of 81
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Yeah, it counts.
And Parker, Could you back up each of your choices with a reason why you feel they need to be included on this list?


Sure.

 

The Last Laugh and Faust because of their innovative use of visuals and camera work. While they might not be FW Murnau's best/most well-known films, they're among his best and continue his trend of silent storytelling based on powerful, eye-popping visuals and innovative camera work alone (both are on Netflix Instant btw). 

Intolerance for the sheer impressive scale of it, and also for one of the first examples of a director having a conversation with himself, with his own work, based on his own work (Griffith's apology for Birth of a Nation).

Un Chien Andalou because no surreal film since has ever captured it's creepy power and magic, not to mention it's one-of-a-kind images and editing.

Greed because von Stoneheim matched Griffith's ambition every step of the way, making an epic statement on the corruptible power of capitalist fantasies. 

Sherlock Jr. because it's Keaton's most accomplished comedies (I love the General, but I find this one funnier and more magical)

Safety Last because Loyd is the unsung silent comedian master and this was his masterpiece. Hugely influential. There'd be no Back to the Future climax without Safety Last.

Broken Blossoms and Birth of a Nation because they display two sides of Griffith's personality, especially with how they deal with race. Broken Blossoms is problematic in that it doesn't allow the idea of inter-racial love, but certainly inter-racial admiration and compassion. It's an incredibly pessimistic tragedy, but well told and powerful. And Birth of a Nation because of how incredibly influential it was, and also because of it's blatant racism. It's important to preserve Griffith's racist tendencies, but a forgiving public that accepted it is truth (including the president of the United States at the time).


Dr. Mabuse because it's Fritz Lang's true silent epic and deserves more praise than the slightly-overrated Metropolis. 


 

post #25 of 81

I did Sherlock, Jr., rather than The Kid, just FYI.

 

27. Pandora's Box (1929)

 

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Louise Brooks gives one of the most erotic performances of any era in this G.W. Pabst-directed wonder. FYI, this is airing on Turner Classic this Monday, 11/14, at 6:30 am Eastern.

post #26 of 81

Yep, Pandora's Box is pretty great. It's classic status is in no small part due to the fact that Louise Brooks was one of the most beautiful women to ever be photographed.

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post #27 of 81

Would the Wile E Coyote/Road Runner shorts count?

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28.

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1985, dir. Ron Fricke

 

Originally shot for IMAX, Koyaanisqatsi cinematographer & Baraka director Fricke's film is a widescreen visual collage that details structures, both natural & of antiquity, through the mesmerizing gaze of time-lapse photography. Out of all the Koyaanisqatsi type films that have been released in the past 30 years, Chronos has always been my favorite.

 

The entire film is here: (Click to show)

 


Edited by Art Decade - 11/10/11 at 7:08pm
post #29 of 81
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Would the Wile E Coyote/Road Runner shorts count?

 

It does and so would most Tom and Jerry films.

 

Here's the list so far.

 

 

1. The Kuleshov Experiment. (1910~1920)  d. Lev Kuleshov

2. Metropolis (1927)  d. Fritz Lang

3. The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928)  d. Carl Theodor Dreyer

4. The Short Film of Pixar (1986~2011)

5. Battleship Potemkin (1925)  d. Sergei M. Eisenstein

6. Nosferatu (1922)  d. F.W. Mernau

7. Sunrise (1927)  d. F.W. Mernau

8. The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1920)  d. Rober Wiene

9. City Lights (1931)  d. Charlie Chaplin

10. The Gold Rush (1925)  d. Charlie Chaplin

 

11. The General (1926)  d. Clyde Bruckman, Buster Keaton

12. Le Voyage Dans La Lune (1902)  d. Georges Méliès

13. Sherlock Jr. (1924)  d. Buster Keaton

14. The Last Laugh (1924)  d. F.W. Mernau
15. Faust (1926)   d. F.W. Mernau
16. Intolerance (1916)  d. D.W. Griffith

17. Un Chien Andalou (1929)  d. Luis Buñuel

18. Greed (1924)  d. Eric Von Stroheim
19. Safety Last (1923)  d. Fred C. Newmeyer, Sam Taylor

20. Broken Blossoms (1919)  d. D.W. Griffith


21. Dr. Mabuse: The Gambler (1922)  d. Fritz Lang

23. The Kid (1921)  d. Charlie Chaplin

23. Birth of a Nation (1915)  d. D.W. Griffith

24. Silent Movie  (1976)  d. Mel Brooks

25. La Maison en Petits Cubes (2008)  d. Kunio Kato

25. Die Abenteuer des Prinzen Achmed (1926)  d. Lotte Reiniger

26. Pandora's Box (1929)  d. Georg Wilhelm Pabst

27. Chronos (1985)  d. Ron Fricke

 

I double checked the list, but still have the strange feeling that I missed someone's choice. Could someone point it out if they see an error?

 

 

 

28. l'Arroseur Arrosé  (The Waterer Watered) (1895)  d. Louis Lumiere

 

The very first comedic film. Theres the setup, the suspense as we wait for the prank, and the release or punchline as the prank happens. A basic comedy done by the inventors of cinema.

 

 

 

 

 

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29) MODERN TIMES

 

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I could have come in last night and been the second post in this thread, to add METROPOLIS, GOLDRUSH and MODERN TIMES as personal favorites of mine, but after the extremely well written and extensive first post, I didn't just want to toss them out there without further explanation

 

Anyway, I'm a huge CHAPLIN fan, and I had a great first experience with METROPOLIS which kind of burned the movie into my memory forever:

 

(reposted from elsewhere on the board, from where I was discussing having seen IRON GIANT projected on the side of a building at night)

 

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It was pretty cool. I also saw Metropolis the same way at the same place (MassMOCA). They had this amazing live band of abstract percussionists do the score along to the movie,and the color of the light the film was projected with changed to suit the different mood or tone they set. That was pretty crazy as well.

I wish I could remember the band's name though..

PS When I saw it it was also one of the first times the more complete cut of the film was being screened. I think they'd recently found and intigrated new footage

As for CHAPLIN, I saw GOLDRUSH in a theater when I was 11 or 12, and then in middleschool they shuffled us all into the auditorium to watch MODERN TIMES. It was an insanely rare treat to get time out of classes to watch an entire movie. Sometimes a specific class would take a few periods to show us a film in little chunks, but to sit and watch it projected on a big screen was a different matter entirely

 

9/10 kids hated it, but the 1/10 that got it loved it. It remains one of my favorite films, and a scathing indictment of capitalism as has ever been made (sorry, Shia!)

post #31 of 81

EDIT: Suggested "The Kid," but it's already there.

post #32 of 81
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28. l'Arroseur Arrosé  (The Waterer Watered) (1895)  d. Louis Lumiere

 

The very first comedic film. Theres the setup, the suspense as we wait for the prank, and the release or punchline as the prank happens. A basic comedy done by the inventors of cinema/

 

Between the "spray to the face" & the subsequent "spanking", this film could also double as cinema's first work of "gay erotica".

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29) MODERN TIMES

 

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Technically not a silent film, as sound is used all over the place. Then again, neither is "Silent Movie" and we ruled to include it. But with Modern Times it seems really dubious since the way sound was used was part of the point of the movie. Call for a ruling?

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I did Sherlock, Jr., rather than The Kid, just FYI.


Whoops, I had editing confusion when I looked back at the posts. Sorry for screwin'.

post #35 of 81

Yeah, I'm gonna be that guy:

 

30. Sidewalk Stories (Charles Lane, 1989)

 

Sadly not on home video in any form. I acquired a bootleg VHS someone probably taped off PBS the one time they showed it. Ebert showed it at one of his Overlooked Film Festivals. It's a Chaplinesque fable about a homeless artist who takes in a little girl. No dialogue or even intertitles until the end, when Lane turns up the soundtrack and we hear various homeless people talking. It's beautifully done and I recommend it if you ever get a chance to catch it. I've been saying for years that Criterion should break it out of obscurity. Or Kino, or fucking anybody. 

post #36 of 81
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Technically not a silent film, as sound is used all over the place. Then again, neither is "Silent Movie" and we ruled to include it. But with Modern Times it seems really dubious since the way sound was used was part of the point of the movie. Call for a ruling?


 

I said it was admissible in my first post. In my mind it is still a silent film in its heart and should be treated as such. I think of this being Chaplin's segue into sound, a love letter to an old era and also an exploration of what the new generation has to offer. Only the in finale does it truly become a talkie

post #37 of 81

31.) The King Of Kings (1927) - d. Cecil B. DeMille

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32.) M. Hulot's Holiday (1953) - d. Jacques Tati

33.) Mon Oncle (1958) - d. Jacques Tati

34.) Play Time (1967) - d. Jacques Tati

35.) Trafic (1971) - d. Jacques Tati

 

Certain directors rule this thread and Tati is one of them.  All sound and dialogue are incidental.  These are silent films at heart.

 

And while I'm at it:

 

36.) L'Illusionniste (2010) - d. Sylvain Chomet

 

A Tati tribute with a screenplay written by Tati himself (and Tati presented as the animated protagonist).  In the same spirit as Tati's films: dialogue and sound are incidental.

 

Which leads to:

 

37.) Les triplettes de Belleville (2003) - d. Sylvain Chomet

 

Again, silent film in spirit (although feel free to argue for/against it).


Edited by ZebraMajor - 11/10/11 at 5:18pm
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32.) M. Hulot's Holiday (1953) - d. Jacques Tati

33.) Mon Oncle (1958) - d. Jacques Tati

34.) Playtime (1967) - d. Jacques Tati

35.) Trafic (1971) - d. Jacques Tati

 

Certain directors rule this thread and Tati is one of them.


I'd also considered adding M. Hulot's Holiday but after checking youtube there is indeed spoken dialogue in it. Don't know about the others.

post #40 of 81
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I said it was admissible in my first post. In my mind it is still a silent film in its heart and should be treated as such. I think of this being Chaplin's segue into sound, a love letter to an old era and also an exploration of what the new generation has to offer. Only the in finale does it truly become a talkie



There's dialogue and sound effects before the finale, though. They're just always used through machines. And truth be told, Chaplin used sound in silent movies previously. I don't really have an issue with it being included, though. 

post #41 of 81

38.) Fantasia (1940) - d. various

 

Fantasia is obvious.  But I'll also add:

 

39.) Fantasia 2000 (2000) - d. various

 

Most would say it's not on par with Fantasia (including me) but I'll list it.

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I'd also considered adding M. Hulot's Holiday but after checking youtube there is indeed spoken dialogue in it. Don't know about the others.



They all have spoken dialogue.  It's beside the point.  Tati's movies are silent movies at heart.  You could take out every line of dialogue and the film still works.  None of it is critical to following the movie.  It's background noise.  Tati's dialogue is the equivalent of the "wah wah wah" adult talk in a Charlie Brown special.

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They all have spoken dialogue.  It's beside the point.  Tati's movies are silent movies at heart.  You could take out every line of dialogue and the film still works.  None of it is critical to following the movie.  It's background noise.  Tati's dialogue is the equivalent of the "wah wah wah" adult talk in a Charlie Brown special.


Yeah, guy, I get that. I wasn't referring to the trademark chatter of Tati's films, I was specifically talking about the scenes where Hulot is speaking direct & audible dialogue to another character. Like I said, I was gonna pick some Tati for this list too & searched out a clip to make sure they would qualify, I saw a scene where character-to-character dialogue was spoken & thought "well, I guess not".

 

Meh, it doesn't matter either way.

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Yeah, guy, I get that. I wasn't referring to the trademark chatter of Tati's films, I was specifically talking about the scenes where Hulot is speaking direct & audible dialogue to another character. Like I said, I was gonna pick some Tati for this list too & searched out a clip to make sure they would qualify, I saw a scene where character-to-character dialogue was spoken & thought "well, I guess not".

 

Meh, it doesn't matter either way.



I wasn't trying to talk down to you, just arguing my case.  I can't get a read if the tone of your reply is intentionally snotty/dismissive or not so I'll assume its not.

 

 

 

post #45 of 81

Snotty/dismissive? Not exactly...but I am annoyed. Annoyed by the trend present in this list of people just naming several films at a time without taking the time to explore a little into each film. Listen, I know Mon Oncle exists. I know The Last Laugh & Faust exist. But, for Pete's sake, tell me why it's special. Tell me why I should seek it out. Simply checking off movies in a given genre like it's a grocery list is both aesthetically uninteresting & frankly, bad form.

 

 

post #46 of 81
Thread Starter 

^ Agreed. 

 

In a single post try to limit your inclusions to two films at the most. Doing a giant list brings the flow of discussion to a halt and don't just race your picks out there. It screams that you are trying to be "First!" and not really putting much thought into your choices. Always supply a reason why you think the film is great or why it has been a great influence.

 

As for films of Tati, I'm ashamed to say it's been a while since my last viewing of his films, but while I do see that there are silent influences in his films I don't feel they belong on this list. Modern Times is an extreme example and I'm allowing it because Chaplin shaped silent and modern comedy and like I said apart form a few sound effects Modern Times is silent until the final musical solo done by the tramp.

post #47 of 81

Hey, cheer up.  At least someone hasn't chosen "The First Half of Wall-E" yet.

post #48 of 81

40. Haxan: Witchcraft Through the Ages (dir. Benjamin Christensen, 1922)

 

 

Still one of the unique movies of all time. A mix of documentary, essay, historical drama, horror film, and psychological debunking all rolled into one. Frankly, most modern documentaries just aren't as entertaining and experimental.


Edited by EvilTwin - 11/10/11 at 7:34pm
post #49 of 81

41. White Hell of Pitz Palu (dir. Arnold Fanck & G. W. Pabst, 1929)

 

 

It's not often that entire sub-genres disappear, but the German Mountain Climbing movie was once an international sensation that never really overcame it's association with the Nazis with it's symbolism of that German conquering a seemingly impossible objective and looking triumphantly over the world. The fact that Leni Riefenstahl is arguably the biggest star of the genre doesn't help either.

 

That said, there's still a lot of admire about the genre and this film in particular. If nothing else, the on location footage is often spectacular and in White Hell it's truly great. Toss in some melodrama and life and death dramatics and you have yourself a memorable and entertaining action adventure film.


Edited by EvilTwin - 11/10/11 at 7:45pm
post #50 of 81
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 Modern Times is an extreme example and I'm allowing it because Chaplin shaped silent and modern comedy and like I said apart form a few sound effects Modern Times is silent until the final musical solo done by the tramp.



I'm not trying to be a dick, but for the third time, that's simply not true. I'm not against including it, but it has sound effects AND dialogue long before the finale. 

Apologizes for submitting a long list. I didn't know there were such strict rules to the thread ahead of time. I like silent film and I got a little excited.


I look forward to including The Artist as soon as I see it. I've heard it's amazing.

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