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http://news.yahoo.com/obama-leaves-god-thanksgiving-speech-riles-critics-173023786.html
I keep pinching myself to see if I wake up.
Jesus Christ, no pun intended. The Romans already took care of this guy once, and yet he keeps plaguing us down through the centuries. The Christian god never existed at all, and I'm glad our president didn't pay lip service to the notion of an invisible friend in the sky during his speech. What am I thankful for? Things that exist and actually benefit me in tangible ways. They might as well complain he didn't give a shout out to the force and neglected to mention Santa Claus. If anything with our neo classical architecture in the capitol, and the fasces in the house chambers, and on Lincoln's memorial, ETC, I think we should be ticked that Obama didn't sacrifice a bull to Jupiter and Juno for securing the harvests
Oh, and I'm doubly offended the way these smarmy bible thumpers falsely claim that thanksgiving has always been a religious holiday, and that all Americans use it as an occasion to thank god
Gee, I can't ever remember a single family member at any thanksgiving I've ever been to taking time to thank a diety of all things at the dinner table. What a stupid idea
Oh, and they should do some reading on the holiday, and they'd see it's secular and dates back to the civil war
The Romans viewed the Christians to be men possessed of a "malefic superstition" who practiced black magic so heinous their abominations were considered "crimes against humanity". They "blighted crops and poisoned vinards", and in Rome may well have set the fires of 64 AD that killed thousands of innocent men women and children...
They then attempted to eradicate European paganism through a campaign of terror and death that plunged the world into a dark age that lasted a thousand years
Now tell me again why the president of our modern nation in the 21st century should thank the fictional ring leader of this ancient barbarous cult?
"Thanks be to God, for whom we travailed a great distance so we might worship him freely; to whom saw fit to abandon us to starvation amongst his glorious elements; and to whom saw the wisdom to send a bunch of Godless heathens to save our moronically ill-prepared asses".
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I'm willing to believe there were plenty of Americans for whom God of any stripe never made an appearance in the conversation on Thursday.
I'm not religous. I grew up in the church though. My dad is a minister. I kind of checked out of religion as a kid. I don't think I ever really checked in to be honest. I saw the collection plate and thought, "wait, if this guy is an omnipotent being, why does he need 10% of your earnings?" In fact, why doesn't God just pay for the church to run if it's so important? Then I got the standard "he's testing our faith" nonsense...like, "I'm gonna offer no proof of my existence, only vague renderings from lying, cheating, murderous man, in the form of religion and then expect you to believe in me on faith...forget your intelligence, which I gave you by the way." Just too many contradictions. I believe most religious people are not intelligent. As a kid, I realized it was the same as the Santa and Easter Bunny myths I was told as a child. This one just had a little more press involved. The one thing all three have in common is they generate lots of cash. Don't have to be rocket scientist.
Not to say I don't believe God. I think there is something ELSE going on behind what we call 'reality', but to dilute it down to cartoonish depections of heaven and hell and religion is insulting.

The Romans viewed the Christians to be men possessed of a "malefic superstition" who practiced black magic so heinous their abominations were considered "crimes against humanity". They "blighted crops and poisoned vinards", and in Rome may well have set the fires of 64 AD that killed thousands of innocent men women and children...
Well, to be clear, the paganism that the Romans generally practiced involved sacrificing animals to ensure healthy crops, victory in battles, etc. So the Romans accusing ancient Christians/Jews of "blighted crops" due to their religion feels a little bit pot calling kettle black. And the fire of 64 AD was very likely started by agents of Emperor Nero, at his command, not Christians.
I'm a happy atheist, and there's soooo many terrible things that happened in the last 2,000+ years that can be solidly placed at the feet of organized religion that you might as well stick with provable facts.

Well, to be clear, the paganism that the Romans generally practiced involved sacrificing animals to ensure healthy crops, victory in battles, etc. So the Romans accusing ancient Christians/Jews of "blighted crops" due to their religion feels a little bit pot calling kettle black. And the fire of 64 AD was very likely started by agents of Emperor Nero, at his command, not Christians.
I'm a happy atheist, and there's soooo many terrible things that happened in the last 2,000+ years that can be solidly placed at the feet of organized religion that you might as well stick with provable facts.
The idea that Nero set the fires is pretty much a fiction. There would have been no real motive for him to do so, and the idea that he did it to clear space has been debunked. With that said, I am happy to blame the Christians for it, and I don't care if that is true or not
My strategy is to delegitimize Christianity by refusing to recognize it in anything other than the context of an extremist political anti roman cult. They pretend these days as if they were the one true faith that everyone in america believes in, above reproach or suspicion
Well as far as I'm concerned they've never been anything but what they always were: a hateful desert cult predicated on the subjugation of women and an insular clannish hatred of multicultural pagan Rome. These days they pretend they didnt get religious freedom in Rome - but the truth is the concept of their one god is what eventually robbed the entirety of europe of freedom. Romans didnt care who you worshipped, as long as you didnt try and deny the existence of the Roman pantheon, you could have your god too. That was never good enough for the monotheists
As far as I'm concerned, they should count themselves lucky they are no longer serving as fresh meat for the beasts of the arena. Beyond that they have yet to earn any legitimacy and after a dark age, some crusades and generally fucking up all of recorded history for the past two thousand years, they are just as much a threat to our society as they have ever been
They pretend to be pure and selfless, but I won't let them wrap themselves in that cloak - to me, they're nothing more than practitioners of black magic so heinous that the greatest empire the world has ever known saw fit to do its damnedest to eradicate their craven beliefs before they ruined all the progress civilization had worked so hard for. The Romans failed to stop their spread, tragically, but that doesn't mean they've earned the right to be viewed as anything other than an anarchist anti roman political/terror group. I won't forgive them for the dark ages, and I won't cut them an inch of slack. That includes denying their religion any legitimate modern purpose or value
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Some on the right are making a big out of nothing when it comes to Obama. It must be a day that ends in y.