MANY IMAGES FROM JOHN CARTER WITH STUFF IN THEM! [UPDATED WITH POSTER] - Page 3

I was obsessed with these books as a teenager, and I have to confess, watching the trailer gave me chills.  And it's Andrew Stanton.  I'll definitely see this.

NickP, I saw an...episode, which caused me to put out the...Friday Night Lights!  High School Football just doesn't interest me.

On the New Posts page, this is all I saw.  Hehehehehe.

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NickP, I saw an...episode, which caused me to put out

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how much of FNL the series, have you seen?

Just don't...just don't. You don't know what you're getting into.

Bad poster but the trailer is quite fun. Three or four things feel a little flat (the shot of the uniformly green guys in the colliseum, spaceships fighting with sith lightning, "We did not cause this ...") and I can't say I'm sold on the Kitsch's leading man charisma just from this trailer (even with designer stubble the dude sure has a dainty face) but the majority of it looks like it could be a good old sci-fi pulp joyride and if it has a sense of humour about itself and if Andrew Stanton's involved it can't be a wreck. I can see me loving it.

It also seems like John Carter may be dressed up a a Na'vi for Martian halloween at some point.

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Originally Posted by The Prankster 
 it looks like they're keeping in the immortality/reincarnation/astral projection stuff, which is certainly unique

Unless you've seen the derivative AVATAR.

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Oh come on. You don't see a film about alpha males forcing the latest starlet to wear nothing but a loincloth?

Well maybe you don't. ;)

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Richard Dickson, No, Disney wouldn't call the film...A Princess Of Mars, for a very good reason.  Without Dejah Thoris in the poster, audiences unfamiliar with the Barsoom Books, would think...Taylor Kitsch is the...Princess Of Mars!

 

PRISCILLA, QUEEN OF THE DESERT?

Roger Corman, where are you???

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I say: Give me Frazetta or go home!

Huzzah!!!!

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yeah....hollywood's record with "pulp" material isn't the best....  "The Shadow" and "The Phantom" are 2 that jump to mind.

 

Or you could look at STAR WARS, INDIANA JONES, and AVATAR. More inspired from than adapted, but yeah I see your point. I would love to be proved wronf, but CARTER doesn't look like it has the chops.

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After seeing that video, I'll have to change my opinion on the film's redness.

 

IT'S TOO RED NOW!!!!!  GAH!

But red = blood/violence/war!!!

More pulpy Frazetta oil-paint red!!! Less reality/science!!!

Sigh.

After reading the "Where have all the Cormans gone?" thread just makes me wish this was being directed by some young hungry turk for twenty million to be released within 6 months of it's shooting.

...then I realize 90% of viewers under the age of 25 who refuse to see a single film before 1984 would think that was arse and the film would tank.

I'm feeling more and more out of step with pop culture these days.

Hey, I wouldn't mind that myself (I'm 21, and love many older, pre-80s films, in the interest of full disclosure), but I'm honestly OK with a big budget take. As I've said elsewhere, I have no real connection to this property, so I'm judging this purely on what I've been seeing, and what I've seen, I like.

But I do understand how you feel, Rain Dog. It continues to amaze me how talented filmmakers like Joe Dante, who could squeeze every last cent out of a high or low budget, have sadly fallen by the wayside.

The reason I would love a cheaper version is they might feel more free to take bigger risks, design-wise and material-wise. This just looks so... safe and familiar.

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The reason I would love a cheaper version is they might feel more free to take bigger risks, design-wise and material-wise. This just looks so... safe and familiar.

Yeah no doubt the 20 million dollar version in my head is a lot more ballsy and interesting than what we'll eventually get on screen.

Eh, whatever. It's clear I'm in the minority on this movie in regards to it looking "safe" (y'all think it does, I don't). Is there some familiar imagery? Sure. But I could say that about almost any trailer.

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Eh, whatever. It's clear I'm in the minority on this movie in regards to it looking "safe" (y'all think it does, I don't). Is there some familiar imagery? Sure. But I could say that about almost any trailer.

Out of curiosity, what are you seeing in it that seems particularly risky to you?

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Out of curiosity, what are you seeing in it that seems particularly risky to you?

Four-armed aliens in the forefront seems like a bit of a gamble since the last big, creature-heavy hits were the Pirates movies (at least, what I can remember). On that note, does something have to be risky? I think it looks like a fun, straightforward space adventure with some intriguing locations and creature designs, a hell of a cast, and a director I love.

I just wish they hadn't 'Video-Gamed' the design on the gorillas. I was so looking forward to albino gorillas fighting men after Rise of the Apes.

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Four-armed aliens in the forefront seems like a bit of a gamble since the last big, creature-heavy hits were the Pirates movies (at least, what I can remember). On that note, does something have to be risky? I think it looks like a fun, straightforward space adventure with some intriguing locations and creature designs, a hell of a cast, and a director I love.

Well rather than risky, lets go with "mildly challenging" or even "somewhat original".

Look I'm coming off as a real hater of this when I don;t mean to, I just see this being a Disney film first and foremost - with all the nonsense that brings with it in this day and age - rather than being truly Pixar.

I really hope I'm totally wrong on this, but the stench of Disney corporate desperation and blindly grabbing at an Avatar-a-like to try and get back into the blockbuster game just hangs over this thing like cheap cologne for me.

Maybe it's the appalling marketing thats helped shape my view on this, but I just see cynical bland cash grab when I'm looking at this so far. That, and next years Cowboys And Aliens.

But that's cool - modern corporate Hollywood still needs a few more Cleopatras yet before it implodes, bring 'em on I say.

*shrugs* Yeah, we can live and let live at this point, as I think we've exhausted this. I guess I'm just not getting the "corporate desperation" vibe myself.

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*shrugs* Yeah, we can live and let live at this point, as I think we've exhausted this. I guess I'm just not getting the "corporate desperation" vibe myself.

Again, my well may have been poisoned by one of the shittiest major marketing campaigns I've seen in years. If this has a Pixar heart rather than a Disney one, then I'm open to this being a fun time at the movies.

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Again, my well may have been poisoned by one of the shittiest major marketing campaigns I've seen in years. If this has a Pixar heart rather than a Disney one, then I'm open to this being a fun time at the movies.

All righty then!

Anyway, did anyone else know that Bob Clampett of Looney Tunes fame tried to make this into a feature length animated film back in the 40s? THAT would have been a trip.

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All righty then!

 

Anyway, did anyone else know that Bob Clampett of Looney Tunes fame tried to make this into a feature length animated film back in the 40s? THAT would have been a trip.

 

Seriously, that would have been amazing.

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Four-armed aliens in the forefront seems like a bit of a gamble since the last big, creature-heavy hits were the Pirates movies (at least, what I can remember).

But I'm getting such a post AVATAR meets SW vibe here. And to me (considering the awareness and BO pull of those properties), that feels super safe and been-there-done-that. Not because there are 4-arm aliens. The whole trailer's footage has a predictable palette and grit to it. And yet, an attractive CW aesthetic in the lead (who I only know as Gambit). I guess I wanted this "sword and planet" flick to be a bit more fantastical, a bit more pulpy and garish, sinewy and psychadelic, and not anchored by Earth expectations (Hollywood-wise or biological).
 

This looks like Tattooine 2.0 or the other side of Pandora.

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But I'm getting such a post AVATAR meets SW vibe here. And to me (considering the awareness and BO pull of those properties), that feels super safe and been-there-done-that. Not because there are 4-arm aliens. The whole trailer's footage has a predictable palette and grit to it. And yet, an attractive CW aesthetic in the lead (who I only know as Gambit). I guess I wanted this "sword and planet" flick to be a bit more fantastical, a bit more pulpy and garish, sinewy and psychadelic, and not anchored by Earth expectations (Hollywood-wise or biological).
 

 

We were never going to get the Princess Of Mars you and I wanted DM - it's not that time in Hollywood right now. It's bland, boring, four-quarter-hitting safety land these days mate.

Sad huh?

I'm with you tho, this film should be awesome to watch on acid or stoned, it should have blood, tits, bush - yes BUSH - swords, sex, jkes, action and be wall to wall awesome.

It should be the modern day big budget answer to Ice Pirates or something. It may not be huge at the b.o., but it's be memorable.

This family bland fun looks instantly forgettable to me - and Burroughs deserves better.

And what's weird is, I love the original SW trilogy since I was a kid, and it's look. I just want this to be different than that. Yeah, I kinda wanted Milius' CONAN meets FLASH GORDON. KRULL meets STARCRASH.

Or I hate to say it, a Bakshi interpretation, over this.

I'll never be able to shake the Frazetta preferences I guess.

Maybe I just need to revisit GALAXINA or FLESH GORDON or one of the old Corman 80's S&S rip-offs.

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And what's weird is, I love the original SW trilogy since I was a kid, and it's look. I just want this to be different than that. Yeah, I kinda wanted Milius' CONAN meets FLASH GORDON. KRULL meets STARCRASH.

 

Or I hate to say it, a Bakshi interpretation, over this.

 

I'll never be able to shake the Frazetta preferences I guess.

Stop it mate, you're turning me into Pearce Hawthorne, next thing I know everything that used to be around will be awesome and everything new will suck! I adore the Star wars aesthetic as well - but dear god it's been done for over thirty fuckin years now. To DEATH.

The closest we got to what we're after was the empty nothing of Sucker Punch, now all I want for christmas is Milius Conan meets Flash Gordon meets Krull meets Starcrash

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This is what a geeky suicide bomber dreams of...