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post #351 of 524
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Originally Posted by Dan Benenson View Post. And of course it's interesting to get a clearer glimpse of the depths of Quarles' psychosis. AS the AV Club review says, it simultaneously humanizes him AND makes him more of a monster.

 

That's a really good point, and I really like how he's shaping into a counterpoint to Mags, whose intimidating nature came from being the ultimate insider and constantly in control.  The more cracks Quarles shows, the more of his connections are cut off and the more defeats he's handed by our hero/anti-hero, the scarier he becomes.  He's not master of the universe, which should make him less imposing but has made him feel all the more dangerous.  McDonough is handing in an incredible, pure villain portrayal here.
 

 

post #352 of 524
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Originally Posted by stelios View Post

Holy shit McDonough. This episode was one long Emmy submission reel.

 

I may be biased, but I kind of want him to survive this. I know he won't but I also don't want to lose him. The stand-off at the bar and the scene with the male prostitute was fucking phenomenal. Mad Men and GOT have their work cut out for them if they're to unseat Justified as best show this season.


I can't see him surviving.  The drugs will make him irrational and stupid.  If Boyd, Givens, or Limehouse doesn't get him-Detroit will.

 

Jere Burns was great again.  He's concerned for Quarles but clearly wants out.  Doesn't talk much but says alot.
 

 

post #353 of 524
His TAXI DRIVER gun slider will jam in the moment of truth. It's been too thoroughly set up not to happen. I guess whoever is on the other side of that showdown might only wound him, but the odds are not in his favor.
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Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post

 

He's not master of the universe, which should make him less imposing but has made him feel all the more dangerous.  McDonough is handing in an incredible, pure villain portrayal here. 



 

 

The moment he tells Duffy, "I have no place else to go", rings on the surface as a moment of defeat, but was bone-chilling in its implications. What a performance.

post #355 of 524
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Originally Posted by Dan Benenson View Post

His TAXI DRIVER gun slider will jam in the moment of truth. It's been too thoroughly set up not to happen. I guess whoever is on the other side of that showdown might only wound him, but the odds are not in his favor.


My money is he pulls the gun on Duffy and it jams up. Duffy takes him out. I know we keep waiting for the showdown, but eventually, he will pull something of Winn, and Winn will have to step up.

post #356 of 524

Here's a thought: Duffy sabotages the mechanism, Raylan shoots Quarles. Duffy picks up the pieces of whatever organisation Quarles has put together.

post #357 of 524
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Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post

Here's a thought: Duffy sabotages the mechanism, Raylan shoots Quarles. Duffy picks up the pieces of whatever organisation Quarles has put together.



Duffy won't have to sabotage it.  Quarles drug habit will keep hil from keeping it oiled and that'll be the problem.

post #358 of 524
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel View Post



Duffy won't have to sabotage it.  Quarles drug habit will keep hil from keeping it oiled and that'll be the problem.


That's fine as long as we hear the end of the Christmas tree shopping story...
 

 

post #359 of 524

I make the motion that Wynn-face should be introduced in TV's Pantheon of great reactions:

 

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post #360 of 524

It seems like that kind of reaction shot would be the hardest part of acting.

 

"Ok, Jere, in this scene you're not sure if at any moment Quarles is going to shake your hand, give you a briefcase of money, shoot you or rape you. All of the above is also a possible outcome. Aaaaand, ACTION!"

post #361 of 524

You know, between the mute, wheelchair-bound grandma's (hilarious) milkshake burn* on Raylan and Shelby's cancer bluff in the opening, this episode seemed like it owed more than a little to Breaking Bad.  In fact, I kind of hoped that Shelby would mention that he was watching "that show about the meth dealer teacher" when they showed up, which gave him the idea.  But I guess with Beaver and Jere Burns both having bit parts there it might have been a little too heavy on the inter-textualism for this show.

 

*Halo name!

post #362 of 524

Old ladies are schooling Raylan left and right. At least in the last episode he got to have the last laugh:

 

"Oh, you really told me there, old lady. You told me good. I hope you have fun SPENDING THE REST OF YOUR LIFE ALONE IN THE WORLD 'CAUSE YOUR SON BLEW UP! HA!"

post #363 of 524

McDonough's performance this season makes me miss what we might have got form him in the second season of Terriers.

post #364 of 524

Amen, Mr. Moore.

post #365 of 524

Speaking of, how has Donal Logue not guest starred yet?

post #366 of 524
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Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post

Speaking of, how has Donal Logue not guest starred yet?


Because the world is a cold, empty, evil place?

 

 

post #367 of 524
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Originally Posted by stelios View Post


Because the world is a cold, empty, evil place?

 

 



Point, countered.

post #368 of 524

I'm not doing anything with any of the women in that thread. They only serve to remind me of failing to fulfill my childhood dream of becoming a Tony Stark like, billionaire/philanthropist/playboy/superhero.

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post #370 of 524

Well damn. All these players, all these lunatics, all these good guys, all these lowlifes... all coming together in a coherent way that I didn't think was even possible. That was a riveting hour of television right there.

post #371 of 524

Ironside showing up was good enough for me, but tossing Arkin in the mix and setting him up for future appearances is a treat. Getting to the point you need a scorecard to keep track of who's aligned with who from week to week. That's a good thing.

 

Find it a little hard to believe that a Kentucky whore has seen PAPILLON though.

post #372 of 524

Raylan and Art realizing they saved Quarles was gold.  Also good to see Erica Tazel back and kicking balls. 

post #373 of 524

YAY RACHEL!!!

 

post #374 of 524

What a gigantic powder keg they've turned this season into. More impressive though is that every single relationship and backstab has been crystal clear. I know Sons of Anarchy has its fans, but Justified is just so much better at taking the audience along for the ride.

post #375 of 524

When Ellen May said she wanted to be Dickie's "queen" when all was said and done, I couldn't help but think of Game of Thrones.

post #376 of 524
It is like a V miniseries BFF reunion this week.
post #377 of 524

I loved the resignation in Raylan's voice when at the beginning he said, "Oh boy, there's gonna be a next time."

 

And I would love to see what younger Art looked like in New York in the 80's.

 

And according to Herc at AICN, next week's episode is even better.

post #378 of 524

I'm not sure, but I think that's the first time I've seen anyone beaten to death with a sword scabbard. Impressive.

 

Also: "Dick!"

post #379 of 524

"And his initials are Boyd Crowder."

 

"That bear poked ME."

 

The interplay between Raylan and Art is so good and so effortless that I was giddy as soon as I realized they'd be lined up together for the whole episode.  I'm gonna be pissed if/when they eventually kill off Art.  He does such a good job of adding humanity to the show.

post #380 of 524

I thought this was pretty much the first uneven episode they've had this season. Seemed like they jammed just way too much setup in. By the time Limehouse's turncoat uttered "Initials Boyd Crowder", it seemed just silly. But lots of Wynn Duffy made me happy. And I love Jeremy Davies' performance on the show.

post #381 of 524

Fucking damn! What a show!

 

I hope everyone realizes just how monumentaly lucky we are to be able to get such quality entertainment week in and week out. I mean this and Mad Men and soon Game Of Thrones at the same time? Holy shit!

 

And this show continues to be cast as good as anything has been cast, ever. Ironside and Arkin? Are you kidding me? Does Yost have access to my "character actors I love" file?

post #382 of 524

I wouldn't say uneven, but I would agree that this episode was all set-up.  It was just setting the table.  I liked the scenes, but the overall effects was just reordering the alliances and whatnot.  But I guess 3M is a lot of money in Harlan.

post #383 of 524
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Originally Posted by Kevin Matchstick View Post

I thought this was pretty much the first uneven episode they've had this season. Seemed like they jammed just way too much setup in. By the time Limehouse's turncoat uttered "Initials Boyd Crowder", it seemed just silly. But lots of Wynn Duffy made me happy. And I love Jeremy Davies' performance on the show.


Interesting.  It was a lot of setup, but it moved so quickly that I certainly never felt like it was uneven.  Limehouse's turncoat will have the ugly death this season.  I like that we haven't been given a true look into how dangerous Limehouse is yet.  He's been threatening, yes, but I get the feeling when he gets pissed it will be something to behold.  His cleaver throw was a pretty nice touch though.

 

post #384 of 524
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Originally Posted by Kevin Matchstick View Post

I thought this was pretty much the first uneven episode they've had this season. Seemed like they jammed just way too much setup in. By the time Limehouse's turncoat uttered "Initials Boyd Crowder", it seemed just silly. But lots of Wynn Duffy made me happy. And I love Jeremy Davies' performance on the show.



I think that would be silly if they didn't set-up the rift with Limehouse and that particular henchmen a few episodes back. I actually thought it was a great episode, even if it was a complicated one. They've been working up to this kind of back stabbing all season. Now we're seeing the foundation being laid for lots of knives in lots of backs.

 


Edited by Parker - 3/28/12 at 12:02pm
post #385 of 524

Yeah, for an episode that was all about reshuffling the deck, that this felt so propulsive and remained crystal clear in who was selling out who for what is damn impressive.  We even got to see Tim and Rachel kicking ass on their lonesome, which the show has never done before!

 

Ironside and Arkin added in the same week.  Jesus, what an embarrassment of riches.

post #386 of 524

I just hope that as this season progresses, Jeremy Davies' hair will gets it own acting credit.

Walton's hair was in the running for awhile, but the hair baton has been passed... 

post #387 of 524

Any guess on who bites it in the end this season?

I think Davies is due. Quarles is in a downward spiral. But I bet Limehouse is safe for now, and obviously Boyd Crowder ain't going nowhere. 

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Originally Posted by Parker View Post

I think that would be silly if they didn't set-up the rift with Limehouse and that particular henchmen a few episodes back. I actually thought it was a great episode, even if it was a complicated one. They've been working up to this kind of back stabbing all season. Now we're seeing the foundation being laid for lots of knives in lots of backs.

 


I didn't think it was complicated. I just felt it was a little flat. And, for some reason, a little silly. Or course Limehouse's henchman (who has been pretty great this season) is going to suggest Boyd. I just really felt the gears this time. Still, some great moments within. 

post #389 of 524

As a whole, I feel like this season is a little too overstuffed, especially compared to last year, which was damn near pitch perfect. I didn't think last night was uneven, but there have been a couple others that have sorta rubbed me the wrong way, and a lot of that had to do with the balance of all of their villains (including the stupid Prison Nurse...ugh). I guess the writers sat around and said, "How do we follow up Mags?" and finally said "MORE BAD GUYS!"

post #390 of 524
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Originally Posted by Parker View Post I guess the writers sat around and said, "How do we follow up Mags?" and finally said "MORE BAD GUYS!"



I thought that was pretty clear from episode 1.  The thing is, it's worked.  For me, anyway.

post #391 of 524

Me too. I loved Martindale but I don't miss her a single bit.

post #392 of 524

Works for me too. There are a lot more bad guys, and I'm fully invested in every one of their stories. These guys aren't just a bunch of redshirts.

post #393 of 524

No, it works for me too. I just think the disadvantages of not having a steady, consistent villain (other than Boyd, but he's obviously a co-protagonist at this point) are that you get some uneven episodes. I'm glad they didn't try to "re-do" Mags because it would have seemed obvious. They need to mix it up, for sure, I'd just prefer last season to this one, and if I had to put my finger on it, that would be why. I still love the show, though.

post #394 of 524

You know, I think I agree that, as far as uneven goes, they probably could've addressed some of last night's complications in earlier episodes.

post #395 of 524
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Any guess on who bites it in the end this season?

I think Davies is due. Quarles is in a downward spiral. But I bet Limehouse is safe for now, and obviously Boyd Crowder ain't going nowhere. 


Quarles is my only real guess right now, and he seems pretty obvious.  If Davies is killed off I'm going to feel like they wasted an opportunity with him this season.  He's really only been around to push the idea that Mags' money is still out there somewhere and that could have easily been done without Dickie.  I think when the dust clears he'll be set up to keep aggravating Boyd next season.

 

They seem to be as in love with Jere Burns as all of us, so I think Duffy sticks around.

 

Limehouse will survive, but I think that the end of this season is going to shine a spotlight on his group and the dynamic will change drastically next season.

 

I wouldn't be surprised to see Arlo dead just to see how it would actually effect Raylan.

post #396 of 524
Thread Starter 

Was it just me, or did the writers toss in "Is this gonna be our time?" Is that something indigenously Appalachian?

 

I think they've done an amazing job of balancing the huge cast and intersecting plot lines this year; I'm really glad they didn't try to just toss another Big Bad in Bo/Mags' place. I'll agree that it feels a tad overstuffed at times, but since what it's overstuffed with are terrific actors and memorable dialogue, I have no problem.

 

Nice interview with Erica Tazel here.

post #397 of 524
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And this show continues to be cast as good as anything has been cast, ever. Ironside and Arkin? Are you kidding me? Does Yost have access to my "character actors I love" file?



Well, in Arkin's case, all they had to do was walk over to their director's chair during a previous episode and say, "Hey, guy... you act some too, right?"

post #398 of 524

I don't see any particular need to kill Arlo at this point. Honestly, how pissed would Raylan even be? He could get over that with one episode of extra crankiness and a 90 second monologue to his new bartender girlfriend. If Arlo has got some big game changing move to make this year, then I could see him going out, but short of that, why not keep him around? Raymond J Barry's a pretty good actor.

post #399 of 524

Yeah, I think Arlo is going to be around for a while, and that his increasing dementia or whatever will continue to be a problem for Raylan. It'll get him into more trouble than usual, and because he's ill, people will have compassion for him while Raylan won't. Maybe, I don't know. I bet he dies eventually, but he won't get killed, and not this season. We'll see.

post #400 of 524

Anybody notice the Way Of The Gun references? Parker, Longbaugh, and Sarno are mentioned.

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