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post #501 of 524
4/11/12 at 8:03pm
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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post

A definite highlight.  The gesture was perfectly underplayed.


How about the look on Raylan's face when Limehouse cut the arm off? Kinda of a brief "hey, whoa!" look on his face.
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post #502 of 524
4/11/12 at 8:10pm
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Originally Posted by stevehauk View Post

Limehouse killed Quarles, so he gets the mob reward monies, yes?



I don't know that Quarles is dead - you'd think someone losing a limb would just bleed out, but apparently that isn't necessarily the case. http://www.essortment.com/survive-losing-limb-30267.html

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post #503 of 524
4/11/12 at 8:17pm

Quarles is dead. He used his last words to try to humiliate Raylan. He gone.

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post #504 of 524
4/11/12 at 8:56pm
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Quarles is dead. He used his last words to try to humiliate Raylan. He gone.



Nah.  I'm sure we'll see him come back with his arm replaced by a huge ass gun seeking revenge on Raylan and all of Nobles Holler.  :-)

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post #505 of 524
4/11/12 at 9:17pm
Yeah, by tv/movie rules, Quarles is dead. His arc ended, he was shot and disarmed, shown bleeding out, and had dramatic last words. Errol probably didn't make it either, since they didn't make a point of showing him on the ground groaning in pain/gasping for breath (which is generally code for "this character will survive")
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post #506 of 524
4/11/12 at 9:18pm

If Robert Rodriguez signs on to do the fourth season of Justified, we'll see that.  In all other cases, Quarles is gone.

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post #507 of 524
4/11/12 at 9:52pm

In the EW post-mortem, they said that whether Quarles was dead was left open, but that his arc was over either way. With characters like Errol, they said that they let actor availability and their own creative whims determine whether they lived or died.

 

The best part of their post-mortem was the reveal that the first Raylan/Quarles standoff was altered after their Marshall's office consultant informed them that a Marshall would never surrender his gun unless he got something in exchange. So they wrote in the sleeve-gun to let Quarles retain the upper hand, as it were. For bad writers, reality is a nuisance to be ignored whenever possible; for good writers it's an excuse to make a scene better.

 

Raylan getting Quarles to take back the gun that killed Gary was a nice subtle touch as well.

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post #508 of 524
4/11/12 at 10:03pm
So, apparently, Yost is saying he wants to sign Eric Stonestreet and Jeff Goldblum for next season's bad guys. And I imagine we can expect to see more Winn Duffy and Limehouse, and Boyd of course.
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post #509 of 524
4/12/12 at 12:26am

"He just saw a cop with a hat threatening Boyd."

 

Holy fucking shit, that was an unbelievable end to the season. What a show. And when will someone finally recognize what tremendous work Olyphant has been doing? Both that scene and the one in the Wynn-ebago are EMMY submission worthy.

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post #510 of 524
4/12/12 at 1:25am
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Originally Posted by WendellEverett View Post

There was a throw away line at the marshal station about the gun Quarles took from Raylan's belt being connected to Herman's Head's shooting.  Not that kidnapping a family at gun point, stealing a car, fleeing a murder scene, kidnapping a federal agent, and trying to rob half a million dollars all in front of several corroborating witnesses wouldn't be enough to put Quarles away.



That was less about pinning it on Quarrles and more about clearing Raylan.

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post #511 of 524
4/12/12 at 4:42am
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Originally Posted by Arjen Rudd View Post

So, apparently, Yost is saying he wants to sign Eric Stonestreet and Jeff Goldblum for next season's bad guys. 


Fucking.  Awesome.

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post #512 of 524
4/12/12 at 6:10am
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"He just saw a cop with a hat threatening Boyd."

 

Holy fucking shit, that was an unbelievable end to the season. What a show. And when will someone finally recognize what tremendous work Olyphant has been doing? Both that scene and the one in the Wynn-ebago are EMMY submission worthy.



His expressions during the dearming scene alone warrant a nomination.


Edited by Schwartz - 4/12/12 at 6:43am
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post #513 of 524
4/12/12 at 6:20am

Maybe he needs a couple of "LOOK HOW MUCH I'M ACTING" scenes a la Boyd. Not that Goggins gets too much official recognition but at least the fans love him. 

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post #514 of 524
4/12/12 at 11:56am
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Originally Posted by stelios View Post

 Wynn-ebago



I so want one of these.

 

As for the other stuff, you are damn right. I had to rewatch it twice last night. That ending.

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post #515 of 524
4/12/12 at 1:04pm
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Originally Posted by Farsight View Post

In the EW post-mortem, they said that whether Quarles was dead was left open, but that his arc was over either way. With characters like Errol, they said that they let actor availability and their own creative whims determine whether they lived or died.


Yeah, fair enough - "is he alive or dead?" has the correct answer of "at this point it doesn't matter." 

 

 

That said, if they saw fit, he could easily and logically turn up again. 

 

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post #516 of 524
4/13/12 at 8:38am
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Originally Posted by stelios View Post

And when will someone finally recognize what tremendous work Olyphant has been doing? Both that scene and the one in the Wynn-ebago are EMMY submission worthy.



Well, FWIW, he did get an Emmy nomination last year. Not sure what the nomination timeline is-- with both Cranston and Hamm back in play, and House's final season, I could easily see him getting shut out this year.

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post #517 of 524
4/13/12 at 10:12pm

Hamm was in play last year as well, and House hasn't exactly been getting glowing reviews.  Still, Cranston and (conceivably) Peter Dinklage are going to make it a very interesting nomination process.

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post #518 of 524
4/13/12 at 11:00pm

Nothing against Olyphant (I was singing his praises a couple weeks ago in here), but there's no shame in coming in 4th to Cranston, Hamm and Dinklage.

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post #519 of 524
4/16/12 at 1:40pm
Thread Starter 

Of course I'd forgotten that the Emmys are up to six nominees these days, so even if Cranston is back in, losing Kyle Chandler maybe keeps Tiim-O in the picture. Though I'm thinking that Laurie actually gets it now that the show's leaving.

 

Yeah, awards like this are kinda dumb things to talk about, but it's gonna be another long wait till Season 4. Glad my wife just picked up the Blu's of Seasons One & Two to tide us over.

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post #520 of 524
4/17/12 at 7:53am

God I love these features

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post #521 of 524
4/17/12 at 9:21am
Thread Starter 

Though it's obviously not as authoritative as Yost's commentary, there's also an assortment of nice Justified articles and interviews here.

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post #522 of 524
4/18/12 at 9:27am
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Originally Posted by Arjen Rudd View Post

So, apparently, Yost is saying he wants to sign Eric Stonestreet and Jeff Goldblum for next season's bad guys. And I imagine we can expect to see more Winn Duffy and Limehouse, and Boyd of course.


Eric Stonestreet would be incredible especially for those of us who still watch and love him on Modern Family. Wonder if he'd be able to do both shows; that would be a hellava tight schedule.

As for Goldblum, I don't see him as a baddie. Seems like waaay to nice aguy.

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post #523 of 524
4/18/12 at 9:41am


 

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As for Goldblum, I don't see him as a baddie. Seems like waaay to nice aguy.



 

This may well work in his favor.  With this show's writers, no character is ever one dimensional, and a seemingly nice guy may offer some great twists and turns.  At one point earlier this year, I heard rumblings of Yost wanting Patton Oswalt also but I can't see him and Eric Stonestreet both.  
 

 

 

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post #524 of 524
4/18/12 at 10:04am
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God I love these features


just read part 2

 

I do like how even though the season long story seems to be fairly well mapped out there is a fair deal of improvisation in both the writing and plot.

I thought this part below was interesting, re: Errol

 

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AVC: That feeds into a running theme this season, which is about demystifying the crime scene in Harlan. As one of our commenters put it, criminals become criminals because they’re not very good at things. 

 

GY: Yes, and such is the case in all of Elmore’s fiction. They almost succeed, but they ultimately don’t. And the ones who succeed the longest are the best at it, so Boyd is going to succeed a long time, because he’s quite good at it. But even then, he’ll make mistakes, and the same goes with Limehouse. It was our goal right from the beginning that Limehouse be the last man standing. That all this stuff happens, and he still has his world. There’s a loss to him in the death of Errol—or the shooting of Errol, we haven’t decided whether he’s dead. But Limehouse survived. And he always will. Now we don’t know if that will be the case in season four, but at least up to this point.

 

 

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