Her words here:

Really remind me of the debate that people had over the premise of Never Let Me Go on CHUD.

Just a sec.

Here it is:  the post-release thread for the film.  It's not a very long thread, but I loved the discussion in it.  Some people took issue with the characters making no real attempt to escape their fate.  Damon argued that this was very much the point.

http://www.chud.com/community/t/126560/never-let-me-go-post-release

On the one hand, 12 years on a cruise ship sounds pretty slick, but then again, scientology. I'm torn! In all seriousness, religos imprisoning people against their will? Not much of a surprise. Happens all the time all over the world

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Originally Posted by Ambler 

Woman “imprisoned” on Scientology cruise ship for 12 years

 

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/woman-imprisoned-scientology-cruise-ship-12-years-145114448.html

 

I believe this woman's story because back in the 80s they tried to recruit my dad and some others by locking them in a church for hours until they decided to join.  And we all know the stories of bullying with these clowns. 

 

I live down the street from the big Hollywood Scientology center and walk by there often.  Gives me the creeps. 

I've read some insane stuff about them.  From the sinister death of a young woman who'd been checked out of the hospital by them to chasing then surrounding escapees to their billion year contracts to legal harassment of anyone who criticizes them to being forced to completely disconnect to non-"believers," here there be monsters. 

I'm a pretty chilled dude mostly these days, I care about things but don;t let myself get too emotionally wound up about them anymore, I realised I'd live longer that way...

...but these motherfucking evil cocksucking motherfuckers should all be in jail for fraud and running a cult. They're evil. I don;t use that word very often, but with this bunch of assholes it well and truly qualifies. Even a cursory look into the way they operate uncovers the sorts of abuses that it's gob-smacking they're still allowed to exist, let alone thrive.

They are not 'just another religion and all religions are ridiculous anyway' as some like to claim, they're the legal and true definition of a cult - with all the nasty horrible shit that comes with that.

Fuck them and all who defend them. Their leaders should all be in jail.

Scientology is like a video game, you level up by paying money to hook into a biofeedback machine. They use pop psychology to find poor weak lost souls and then take all their money and all their families money if they can do it. Of course all the hollywood types get told they are 70th level mages and they dont take all their cash, because they generate great publicity for cult. Only a poor deluded narcissistic weak minded jackass could be taken in by that tripe. So Scientology will continue to thrive in Hollywood.

I remember being approached by one of these wack jobs in a laundramat at 2am. He was telling me how great his life was now that he had found Scientology, I kept thinking, you are loitering in a laundramat and accosting people....does not look like it worked out too well.

There aren't a lot of people here who could remember the absolute chaos that these boards were when Battlefield Earth hit the theaters, but honestly that was the first time I realized Scientology was a lot more prominent than I'd ever assumed.  I guess because I've literally never been approached by somebody looking to "share" and I don't actually know of any churches in my area.  I guess there could be, but I don't know of them.

Anyway, the Yahoo story pretty much sucks.  I didn't click over to the Village Voice link, but Yahoo really doesn't give enough information for me to feel like everything is exactly as she says.  It could be, but how did they "make" her work?  Did they beat her?  Did they withhold food?  I mean, I get that you've been in the church your whole life so you don't know how to run away (I guess) but you were 18 when you boarded that ship.  Unless your parents failed you horribly you should have known enough to get yourself out of the situation.

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Originally Posted by A-Pathetic 

 Unless your parents failed you horribly you should have known enough to get yourself out of the situation.

Unless your parents were as brainwashed as you had been your entire life. I don't think the power of that deep an imprinting by a cult to the point its the only reality you've ever understood, can be underestimated in trying to understand her situation.

You really have to read up on it (or, obviously, experience it) to understand how weird and science fiction-y it is.  What they put kids through is especially abnormal, but if you want to find out how hard it is to leave scientology, read this:  http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/09/lisa_mcpherson_top_25_crippling_scientology.php and this:  http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/08/marc_headley_top_25_crippling_scientology.php

It's not as easy as you might think, especially for someone raised in it whose family is in it.

I don't know if they have since caved to the bitching from the US but I never loved Germany as much as when they officially proclaimed scientology to be a cult. Because they are.