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post #151 of 265
7/24/12 at 8:34am

Looks like I might cough up for a FF badge after all now...

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post #152 of 265
7/27/12 at 2:03pm

Release date moved up from October 12 to September 14. WOO!

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post #153 of 265
7/28/12 at 7:12am
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Release date moved up from October 12 to September 14. WOO!

 

Talk about waking up to a nice surprise.

 

And I love this recent quote from Weinstein:

 

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Asked if there were still a chance "The Master" could make its debut at the Toronto International Film Festival, which kicks off on September 5, Weinstein said it depends on whether Anderson could prepare a 70-millimeter print in time. "He’s a filmmaker, not a video filmmaker, and I really hope that doesn’t get lost in the controversy either. He’s really trying to preserve a lost art."

 

While I LOVE innovation and am a gear/tech head at heart (Best Buy is a second home), I have no problem admitting digital does not look as "good" as film yet.  35mm (and certainly 70mm) still has a warm richness and texture that is superior to digital's ghost like imperfections (it still looks like shit when the camera moves).  And I'm glad guys like Anderson and Tarantino and Spielberg (unfortunately Scorsese is a recent casualty) are still able to preserve the heritage of film.  Let's face it, the only reason Hollywood productions are shooting digital now is because it's cheaper than film.  But you only save maybe half a million bucks in the budget, and considering how wasteful the studios are (read Robert Rodriguez's Rebel Without A Crew for more insight), it's pretty amusing they're being so tight assed about 500K.

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post #154 of 265
7/31/12 at 7:17am
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World premiere set for the Venice film festival, Sept.1.  Also set to play Toronto Int'l film festival. 

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post #155 of 265
8/1/12 at 7:54am
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Also the film is confirmed to be showing in 1.85:1 aspect ratio, rather than PTA's usual scope (2.35:1).

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post #156 of 265
8/1/12 at 1:39pm

Interesting. Isn't 70mm traditionally at something closer to 2.20:1?

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post #157 of 265
8/2/12 at 7:57am
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post #158 of 265
8/4/12 at 8:14am

Apparently it screened at the Aero last night. Jeff Wells collects some reactions.

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post #159 of 265
8/4/12 at 2:14pm
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Apparently it screened at the Aero last night.

 

What the fuck?

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post #160 of 265
8/4/12 at 2:47pm
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Talk about waking up to a nice surprise.

And I love this recent quote from Weinstein:


While I LOVE innovation and am a gear/tech head at heart (Best Buy is a second home), I have no problem admitting digital does not look as "good" as film yet.  35mm (and certainly 70mm) still has a warm richness and texture that is superior to digital's ghost like imperfections (it still looks like shit when the camera moves).  And I'm glad guys like Anderson and Tarantino and Spielberg (unfortunately Scorsese is a recent casualty) are still able to preserve the heritage of film.  Let's face it, the only reason Hollywood productions are shooting digital now is because it's cheaper than film.  But you only save maybe half a million bucks in the budget, and considering how wasteful the studios are (read Robert Rodriguez's Rebel Without A Crew for more insight), it's pretty amusing they're being so tight assed about 500K.

I agree with most everything you said, but I do wonder if film is simply more logistically challenging. You have to worry about temperature, changing film, ETC. Many of these directors working today are basically studio point and shoot hacks. The ability to master a film production on a big scale and also handle the technical hurdles of photochemical film is something that many of these commercial and music video trained people simply don't have in their blood.
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post #161 of 265
8/4/12 at 2:50pm

Interesting can't wait to see it.

 

 

From the reviews this definitely sounds like it will be the most divisive and least audience friendly thing he's ever done.

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post #162 of 265
8/4/12 at 3:22pm
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I agree with most everything you said, but I do wonder if film is simply more logistically challenging. You have to worry about temperature, changing film, ETC. Many of these directors working today are basically studio point and shoot hacks. The ability to master a film production on a big scale and also handle the technical hurdles of photochemical film is something that many of these commercial and music video trained people simply don't have in their blood.

 

Directors don't even touch the film.  The 2nd camera assistant does that, and it is not difficult at all.

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post #163 of 265
8/4/12 at 3:40pm

Oh, it can be quite difficult.. IF THEY DON'T HAVE ANY ARMS!!!!!

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post #164 of 265
8/4/12 at 5:47pm
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What the fuck?

 

You have no idea how hard I am kicking myself for deciding not to go out there for the Shining....I was...this....close.....sigh.

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post #165 of 265
8/5/12 at 3:43pm

Joaquin Phoenix could not have chosen a better project to channel his post-I'm Still Here strangeness through, while at the same time putting himself back in films with the potential to move his career forward in a serious, potentially awards-worthy way.  It's going to be fascinating to see him act with PSH.

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post #166 of 265
8/5/12 at 6:49pm

Phoenix's gaunt look is highly reminiscent of Daniel Day Lewis, almost thought it was the latter at first glance.

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post #167 of 265
8/7/12 at 6:25am
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post #168 of 265
8/7/12 at 6:33am
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Phoenix's gaunt look is highly reminiscent of Daniel Day Lewis, almost thought it was the latter at first glance.

 

Especially here...

 

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Like Plainview's creepy grandson (if his cock had worked.)

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post #169 of 265
8/7/12 at 11:35am

Boogie Nights is a masterpiece but everything else PTA has done can burn. His movies are populated by eccentric weirdo's, oblivious morons and there's not a single honest performance in anything he's done. Magnolia was an experiment to show that "everything is connected" while we're forced to follow a group of annoying assholes. Punch Drunk Love was an excruciating esoteric wankfest. There Will Be Blood is supremely overrated. Sorry but what was soo great about that movie? Daniel Plainview starts off as a bastard and that's it except that he kills that little fucking creep pastor which isn't shocking as we have already seen him kill the man who was pretending to be his brother. There was no characterization. He's a cunt and nothing about that changes nor do we understand why he's like that. People act like TWBB is Citzen Kane. Uh. No. Kane used multiple techniques to show us the life of a character through the eyes of the people who knew him after his death and how he went from idealistic youth to reclusive old millionaire control freak. Daniel Plainview is a piece of shit from start to finish.

 

Then there's the irritating way that all of PTA's movies are modeled after someone elses.

 

Hard Eight was him trying to mimic John Dahl who was popular at the time. 

Boogie Nights was his Martin Scorsese

Magnolia was his Robert Altman

Punch Drunk Love was his Hal Ashby

There Will Be Blood was his Terrence Malik

The Master seems to be his Kubrick given that it sneak previewed with The Shining last week.

 

The Master also seems to be yet another movie about one of PTA's fucking idiot characters; in this case a sneering retard who gets suckered into a cult modeled after Scientology. People were jizzing over this even before they saw a single frame while the word "MASTERpiece" has been thrown around based purely on the trailer which was nice but didn't blow me away. At this point The Master is my fourth most anticipated movie of the ass end of 2012 after Cloud Atlas, Life of Pi and Django Unchained.  

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post #170 of 265
8/7/12 at 11:39am

Banhammer inc!

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post #171 of 265
8/7/12 at 6:47pm

There Will Be Blood was far more Kubrick than Malick. The begginning has a ton of 2001 in it. And Punch Drunk Love is a lot more Tati and Godard than Ashby. Also the non-sequitors in Punch Drunk Love are reminiscent of the film Shoot The Piano Player.

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post #172 of 265
8/7/12 at 8:31pm

I'm not even going to engage Checkers (perfect name) argument, because why bother (except to note that maybe you oughtta cut back on the hyperbole if the director in question's new film is only your fourth most anticpated for the rest of the year), but yeah, I honestly think that the Malick comparison is kind of lazy. I'm not saying that PTA wasn't influenced by Malick, but tonewise a film like Assassination of Jesse James...is far more in line with Malick. Wide shots and natural scenery is as much a Kubrickian trait as Malick's, and TWBB is right in line with Kubrick, mood wise.

 

Of course, PTA also has, you know, his very own unique style which is like, totally amazing.

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post #173 of 265
8/8/12 at 6:37am
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Anyway, official running time is 150 mins.  The film is set play the Venice film festival in competition in a 70mm print. 

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post #174 of 265
8/8/12 at 2:39pm

THERE WILL BE BLOOD has all sorts of influences playing into things. It's hardly a carbon copy of any one filmmaker's style. But even if you can point to bits that echo Altman or Huston, Kubrick is right up-and-front with all the direct citations of 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY (and there are some nods to THE SHINING, too).

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post #175 of 265
8/10/12 at 7:39am
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Release dates

 

8/3 Aero Theatre, Los Angeles (70mm)
9/1 Venice Film Festival (70mm)
9/?? Toronto International Film Festival (70mm) unconfirmed

U.S.

9/14 Limited Release (NY/LA)
9/21 Chicago
9/21 Additional cities unconfirmed

International

11/8 Australia
11/9 U.K.
11/15 Argentina
11/15 Chile
11/15 Russia
11/29 Portugal
12/6 Netherlands
 

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post #176 of 265
8/10/12 at 10:09am

Coincidentally, Alamo Drafthouse used this opportunity to install a 70mm projector into their location at the Ritz.

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post #177 of 265
8/10/12 at 10:29am
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Coincidentally, Alamo Drafthouse used this opportunity to install a 70mm projector into their location at the Ritz.

WOW. That's it, I'm moving.

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post #178 of 265
8/12/12 at 3:55pm
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Jonny Greenwood's score for the film will be released Sept. 11th.

 

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Also, there's a new trailer playing in front of Bourne Legacy.

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post #179 of 265
8/13/12 at 7:15am
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Little seen vintage PTA interview.

 

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post #180 of 265
8/13/12 at 8:18am

cool nice find

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post #181 of 265
8/14/12 at 7:29am
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70mm TIFF screening confirmed.

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post #182 of 265
8/15/12 at 3:46am

Man, that makes me wish I'd planned on going to TIFF this year (instead of potentially going next year).

 

Oh well. There's no way this won't open in Boston, so at least I'll make the press screening for that.

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post #183 of 265
8/15/12 at 8:08am
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1 Overtones 2:20
2 Time Hole 1:42
3 Back Beyond 3:42
4 Get Thee Behind Me Satan – Performed by Ella Fitzgerald 3:47
5 Alethia 4:06
6 Don't Sit Under the Apple Tree (With Anyone Else but Me) – Performed by Madisen Beaty 1:36
7 Atomic Healer 1:24
8 Able-Bodied Seamen 3:54
9 The Split Saber 3:41
10  Baton Sparks 2:20
11  No Other Love – Performed by Jo Stafford 3:00
12  His Master's Voice 3:34
13  Application 45 Version 1 5:40
14  Changing Partners – Performed by Helen Forrest 2:42
15  Sweetness of Freddie 3:25

 

 

The track 'Application 45 Version 1' can be listened to here.

 

Pre Orders are here.

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post #184 of 265
8/15/12 at 8:23am

In my head, I'm imagining some sort of temporal displacement where Ella Fitzgerald is covering a Jack White album.

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post #185 of 265
8/15/12 at 6:30pm

The Coolidge Theater in Brookline, MA is playing this in 70MM. Starting September 21st. Oh man I will take a goddamn vacation day if I have to make a screening for that. 

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post #186 of 265
8/15/12 at 9:17pm

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post #187 of 265
8/16/12 at 7:42am
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Anybody live in Chicago?  Better get your ass down to the music box theatre right now because there is a surprise 70mm screening tonight!

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post #188 of 265
8/16/12 at 3:06pm

Wish I could be there.  If anyone on this board is going, have fun, lucky bastard.

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post #189 of 265
8/17/12 at 7:09am
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I guess this can be considered the first official review of the film.  And it's positive.

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post #190 of 265
8/17/12 at 7:33am

Excellent writeup, and just makes me even keener to see the finished film. Really looking forward to this one.

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post #191 of 265
8/19/12 at 11:10am
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PTA seems to love staying under the radar with this film.  Not one, but two more surprise screenings in NYC last night.  One at The Film Forum in 70mm, and another at The Museum Of The Moving Image after a screening of Taxi Driver.

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post #192 of 265
8/19/12 at 12:00pm

What, LA is chopped liver??? I'm dying to see this film over here!

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post #193 of 265
8/19/12 at 12:15pm
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What, LA is chopped liver??? I'm dying to see this film over here!

They already showed it a couple of weeks ago at a surprise screening.

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post #194 of 265
8/19/12 at 12:31pm

Well I guess my invitation was lost in the mail. :(

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post #195 of 265
8/20/12 at 2:57pm
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The secret tour continues...the film is screening tomorrow night in San Francisco at The Castro Theater, at 8pm in 70mm...so get your ass down there if you're in the area.

 

Plus new footage (with info for the screening).  Tickets here.

 

 

 

And here is PTA's first interview for the film, with Newsweek.

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post #196 of 265
8/20/12 at 5:39pm
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The secret tour continues...the film is screening tomorrow night in San Francisco at The Castro Theater

 

Great venue. Just saw a double feature there while on vacation in San Francisco recently. Can't recommend it enough. I love places like that with a reverence for movie history. Has some lovely old glassed movie posters decorating it.

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post #197 of 265
8/23/12 at 7:13am
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Apparently Anderson was at the San Fran screening Tuesday night, and was signing limited edition copies of this poster

 

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post #198 of 265
8/23/12 at 7:30am

what a cool poster. Of the three so far that's definitely my favorite

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post #199 of 265
8/27/12 at 6:35pm
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Apparently Anderson was at the San Fran screening Tuesday night, and was signing limited edition copies of this poster

 

 Oh dear lord, that is a piece of memorabilia I would certainly overpay for.

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post #200 of 265
8/28/12 at 6:08am
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Trailer #2

 

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