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post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 

It's that time of year again when all the best-remembered Christmas Carol adaptations get dusted off, put on TV or in the Netflix queue. But which ones are the best and the worst? Chewers, I leave it up to you to decide, though of course I'll share my own favorites first:

 

Best

-I'm not a huge Mr. Magoo fan, but his Christmas Carol is pretty darn good, especially with mournful tunes like "All Alone in the World".

 

-The 1971 animated special from Richard Williams and Chuck Jones might be the straight-up scariest version of the story yet, even keeping the oft-axed "A Ghost Story of Christmas" subtitle. Alistair Sim does a wonderful job reprising Scrooge vocally.

 

-1984's TV movie with George C. Scott is one of the best live-action versions, with Scott playing Scrooge as a tough old miser convinced his way of life is the only way, making his breakdown at his grave that much more effective. The few additions and cuts work, the supporting cast is equally excellent (especially David Warner's Bob Cratchit, Roger Rees' Fred and Edward Woodward's Christmas Present), and the look is nicely authentic. It also has the most viscerally sick-looking Tiny Tim ever.

 

-Mickey's Christmas Carol is a bit of a slapsticky, goofball take on the story (seriously, Goofy as Jacob Marley is delightfully weird "casting"), but Scrooge McDuck is as perfect a Ebenezer as you would expect, especially with Alan Young's terrific vocal work. And the Ghost of Christmas Future section remains striking and powerful, with a teary-eyed Mickey laying Tiny Tim's crutch at his grave and the dead-on Pete as Christmas Future. If he must pull down his hood and speak, it might as well be a stogie-smoking Pete: "Why yours, Ebenezer! The richest man in the cemetery! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!"

 

-I'm not as enamored of Scrooged as some here are (it has some story and tonal issues, Murray's climactic speech goes on for far too long), but it's nevertheless a fun, darkly comic modern take on the story. "Niagara Falls, Frankie angel."

 

-The 1999 TV version with Patrick Stewart might be my favorite of all time, filled to the brim with great actors, nicely handled effects, and a remarkably realistic tone.

 

-The Muppet version has some flaws as an actual Muppet movie, but it works quite well as an adaptation nonetheless.]

 

-Doctor Who's take last year had some nice spins on the formula with Moffat's trademark wit and style, with none of the emotion diluted by the time travel craziness. And I want Michael Gambon as the real Scrooge RIGHT NOW.

 

Worst

 

-Bah, Humduck!, an ill-conceived modernized Looney Tunes DTV take on the story. To be fair, the animation and voicework is pretty good, but I tend to prefer the Looney Tunes making me laugh rather than tugging my heartstrings, and there's just not enough funny here.

 

-An All Dogs Christmas Carol. I have only one true word to say about this poorly-animated, actor-wasting, nauseatingly written slop: BLEH!

 

I can't think of any REALLY bad versions I've seen, but I've heard that stuff like An American Carol or sections of Zemeckis' mo-cap version are pretty dreadful.

 

Fire away, gents!

post #2 of 26
SCROOGED.
post #3 of 26
Thread Starter 

Is that best or worst, then? Like I said, I enjoy it plenty, but I certainly don't think it's flawless.

post #4 of 26
That's just it...it's both the best and the worst. When it works, it's a pretty damned funny movie that's a joy to watch. So much of it falls completely flat, though.

For straight BEST, I'd have to give it to Muppet CHRISTMAS CAROL, which is a treat from beginning to end. Also, Michael Caine is.my favorite Scrooge by far.
post #5 of 26
Thread Starter 

Ah, I see then. Any thoughts on any of the other versions I listed?

post #6 of 26
I like the George C Scott and Patrick Stewart ones. Great acting in both. Don't remember the other ones well enough to comment. The MUPPET one is aces, though.
post #7 of 26

My absolute all time favorite:

 

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This is the Grammy Award winning recording of Patrick Stewart's one man CHRISTMAS CAROL BROADWAY SHOW. He does all the voices, vocalizes the sound effects*, and generally imbues the story with such infectious energy and enthusiasm that it's impossible not to get swept up in the Christmas spirit of it all

 

We had this on cassette for many years and it was a staple of our winter time car rides. Now we have the CD, and it gets more play than ever before

 

Forget the film adaptations. For my money you can't beat the experience of having Dicken's classic tale play out in the theater of your imagination, with none other than world class thespian Patrick Stewart as your guide

 

*in my family, we'll often imitate his "Ga-dong!" clock bell sound while we make christmas cookies and stuff : P

post #8 of 26
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Originally Posted by Chris Spider View Post

-1984's TV movie with George C. Scott is one of the best live-action versions, with Scott playing Scrooge as a tough old miser convinced his way of life is the only way, making his breakdown at his grave that much more effective. The few additions and cuts work, the supporting cast is equally excellent (especially David Warner's Bob Cratchit, Roger Rees' Fred and Edward Woodward's Christmas Present), and the look is nicely authentic. It also has the most viscerally sick-looking Tiny Tim ever.

 

Also, the creepiest Ghost of Christmas Yet To Come ever. For all intents and purposes it is The Grim Reaper, and it is great.
 

 

post #9 of 26
Thread Starter 

Eh, most depictions I've seen depict him as the Grim Reaper, but you're correct that it's a very effective one.

post #10 of 26

All about this guy:

 

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Simply definitive.

post #11 of 26
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I still need to actually see that version... I've heard it adds to the story quite effectively in places, and Sim's voice on its own was terrific in the aforementioned animated Williams special.

 

Y'all need to come up with some crappy ones, seriously. I can't be the only one who's seen slop like the All Dogs one, can I?

post #12 of 26

....I liked the Susan Lucci Christmas Carol version, Ebbie

 

/hides

post #13 of 26

Though there are a few elements I admire, in general I found the Zemeckis CHRISTMAS CAROL to be antithetical to my entire conception of what the tone and style of ACC "should be"

 

The experience of watching it was rather depressing, as if the whole film were a warning from the ghost of Christmas yet to come about the future of cinema, only the movie existed in the here and now 

post #14 of 26
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Y'all need to come up with some crappy ones, seriously. I can't be the only one who's seen slop like the All Dogs one, can I?



The Rich Little Christmas Carol's sole redeeming quality is as a snapshot of which celebrity impressions were popular in the late 70s.

post #15 of 26
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....I liked the Susan Lucci Christmas Carol version, Ebbie

 

/hides


Don't think I know that one, actually. This is where I expose my ignorance of certain popular culture icons, but who's Susan Lucci?

 

post #16 of 26

She's the Peter O'Toole of soap operas -- she was nominated a bunch of times for an Emmy without winning.

post #17 of 26
Thread Starter 

Ah, I see. Wait, soap operas get nominated for Emmys? Damn, I really don't pay attention to live-action television much, do I?

post #18 of 26

My favorite will always be the Albert Finney 1970 musical, SCROOGE. Finney was only 34 when he took on the role, but he makes such a convincing Scrooge that I spent my entire childhood thinking he was already an old man (imagine my surprise when I actually saw him in a film in the late 90s as a real old man--it's like Max Von Sydow, you're just perplexed at how they can still be alive!).

 

The production value is superb, the songs are about 95% terrific (I don't care for Tiny Tim's number), and it is, for my money, the one adaptation that gets to the heart of Scrooge's self-loathing over letting Isabelle go. I like other versions (namely Scott and Stewart), but Finney really sells Scrooge for me. As in, you see him actually grow and have epiphanies over the course of the night. There's some actual pathos to his performance, and it's the kind of benchmark that reveals when other actors haven't put the work into the character and expect the plot to just take care of itself.

 

That, and Alec Guiness plays Marley, and how can you go wrong with that? It's a testament to his ability that he plays a ghost that really appears to be ethereal with only some makeup and some creative lighting.

 

 

Fast forward to 8:12 to see Guinness rock the joint. Or just watch the whole thing to get a good sampling of the film.

post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by Wayward_Woman View Post

....I liked the Susan Lucci Christmas Carol version, Ebbie

 

/hides


My wife and I watched this last year.  We were in my mother-in-law's nursing home room, watching over her while she was dying.  Her TV didn't have access to many channels, but it did have the Hallmark channel (not surprised), so we ended up watching this one night.  In this iteration, Ebbie is the store manager of a department store.  Jeffrey DeMunn plays Marley, and I recall him doing a really good job in the role.  My wife liked it, and I didn't want to go on a killing spree after watching it.

 

post #20 of 26

 

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My favorite will always be the Albert Finney 1970 musical, SCROOGE.



This is among my least favorite versions, but most (if not all) of that is due to running the lights for a stage version of this. Hearing any portion of "Thank You Very Much" makes me want to stab random strangers in the ears with rusty forks. Became utterly sick of all the songs, and never recovered to being able to enjoy them again.

 

The 1985 Scott version is far and away my favorite; I thought Scott was fantastic counter-intuitive casting for the role, being so physically formidable and Scrooge usually being shown as a scrawny, hunched over man. The Alastair Sim version is a close second.

 

Are we allowed to nominate TV series' version? Reaching way back, I love Moonlighting's take on the story.

post #21 of 26
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Originally Posted by Greg Clark View Post

My favorite will always be the Albert Finney 1970 musical, SCROOGE. Finney was only 34 when he took on the role, but he makes such a convincing Scrooge that I spent my entire childhood thinking he was already an old man (imagine my surprise when I actually saw him in a film in the late 90s as a real old man--it's like Max Von Sydow, you're just perplexed at how they can still be alive!).

 

The production value is superb, the songs are about 95% terrific (I don't care for Tiny Tim's number), and it is, for my money, the one adaptation that gets to the heart of Scrooge's self-loathing over letting Isabelle go. I like other versions (namely Scott and Stewart), but Finney really sells Scrooge for me. As in, you see him actually grow and have epiphanies over the course of the night. There's some actual pathos to his performance, and it's the kind of benchmark that reveals when other actors haven't put the work into the character and expect the plot to just take care of itself.

 

That, and Alec Guiness plays Marley, and how can you go wrong with that? It's a testament to his ability that he plays a ghost that really appears to be ethereal with only some makeup and some creative lighting.

This is actually on right now as I type this. My wife is passed out on the couch with the disc spinning in the blu. It's her favorite version. I'll give you Finney's effective regret in this over the loss of his love, but I'd argue that Finney (as much as I love him) comes across so cartoonish in this. More cartoonish than Unca Scrooge in Mickey's version. The fact that he was only 35 playing an old man makes sense then. It's a caricature of an old man. The creepy imagery is great though (ghosts in limbo, trip to hell, etc).

post #22 of 26

I feel that Robert Zemeckis' A Christmas Carol has some really great moments. Jim Carrey's performance is actually one of the better Scrooges and very underrated. 

 

Other great ones already mentioned; Alastair Sim 1951 Scrooge, George C. Scott 1984 Scrooge, Mickey's Christmas Carol (the fact that they managed to pull it off in 30 minutes tells you the power of Dicken's story) and of course Scrooged. 

 

Some ok versions; Muppet Christmas Carol, Albert Finney 1970 Scrooge (maybe the only version where Scrooge actually goes to HELL! Got to give it credit for that alone)

 

Personally, I was never a fan of Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol. 

 

Bad versions; Flintstones Christmas Carol (retread of Mr. Magoo's version and it kind of freaks me out that they're performing a play from the future! Victorian Era in the Stone Age... blows the mind). Does Ghosts of Girlfriends Past count?

post #23 of 26

There used to be a poll on the boards from a year or 2 back, where we go over all the versions and voted. Must have been swallowed up in a server shift, cause I can't find it.

 

Truthfully, I'm kinda surprised there never was a tv-movie Muppet version from the 80s with Gonzo as Scrooge, considering how many Christmas specials Henson use to produce. I guess that top hat he wears in Muppet Christmas Carol and his proclivity for filling in as a villain (see him as Darth Vader in the SW ep of the Muppet Show) makes him a perfect fit in my mind.

post #24 of 26

On the Zemeckis version: It had a bit too much of Scrooge going, "Wuh, wuh, WUUUUUOOOOOAHH!" for my tastes, to the point that that's all I can remember about the movie.

 

I have a soft spot for SCROOGED, of course, but I'll have to echo those who cite the George C. Scott film as their favorite version. I also really dug Moffat's spin on the story on Doctor Who last year, which was really sweet.

post #25 of 26

Anyone given a listen to the Patrick Stewart audio version yet?

post #26 of 26

I make it a point to watch the Black Adder Christmas Carol every year. It's funny and helps when all the Christmas cheer starts to go to your head.

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