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post #1 of 27
12/13/11 at 2:25pm
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by Renn Brown: link

A one-sheet and a crop of not-so-nice BNAT reactions...
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post #2 of 27
12/13/11 at 3:49pm

Cool poster, so the movie must be good, right?

 

Anyone else think there is a big disconnect between BNAT and ComicCon and "normal" moviegoing experiences? Empire did an article on Cowboys and Aliens last summer stating that the ComicCon crowd went apeshit over a ten minute preview..but that was also accompanied by appearances by Daniel Craig, Harrison Ford and Olivia Wilde, which must have amped the crowd to 11. Because when the actual movie came out, people, including people on CHUD, fucking hated that film.

 

Likewise, Ghost Rider 1 did quite well box office wise. Maybe in the context of all the various Indie, Major and Classic films screening at BNAT, something aiming for the mainstream like Ghost Rider 2 seems worse than it really is.

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post #3 of 27
12/13/11 at 4:46pm

Even though Ghost Rider 1 did quite well, it was still a terrible movie. Seeing the sequel is not going to happen.

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post #4 of 27
12/13/11 at 6:34pm

These nerd festival audiences are 100% unreliable, not to mention some of those critics, who aren't accustomed to sitting with "the unwashed masses" and doing something as taxing (for them) as a twenty four hour movie festival. I would wait for a more reliable opinion.

 

Hell, when I was at ComicCon, there was a borderline standing ovation for the one-two Len Wiseman punch of Underworld 4 and Total Recall trailers. As if everyone in that room with ANY sensible taste wasn't going to hate the fuck out of those mediocrities.

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post #5 of 27
12/14/11 at 2:26pm

While I'm not expecting a masterpiece out of this, I suspect the film is better than the BNAT crowd is making it out to be.  I'm guessing Neveldine & Taylor refused to blow Harry on stage for his birthday, so he instructed his frathouse-like following at the festival to be disappointed.

 

All snarkiness aside, if you're like me and enjoyed their first three films................then I suspect we'll enjoy this one.  At the very least, I can't see it being any worse than Green Lantern or the first Ghost Rider movie.  Who knows?  Maybe I'm wrong.

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post #6 of 27
12/14/11 at 3:25pm

I didn't really care for the first movie, but had held out hope the sequel could be fun, as Cage seemed to be on an upswing and when he's at his manic best it can at the very least be entertaining to watch. I don't really like the character of The Ghost Rider though, and with the buzz and this poster (which I actually don't really like), my hopes have been somewhat dashed

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post #7 of 27
2/2/12 at 9:42pm

http://worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=23909

 

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"It occurred to me, because I was doing a character as far out of our reference point as the spirit of vengeance, I could use these techniques. I would paint my face with black and white make up to look like a Afro-Caribbean icon called Baron Samedi, or an Afro-New Orleans icon who is also called Baron Saturday. He is a spirit of death but he loves children; he's very lustful, so he's a conflict in forces. And I would put black contact lenses in my eyes so that you could see no white and no pupil, so I would look more like a skull or a white shark on attack."

"On my costume, my leather jacket, I would sew in ancient, thousands-of-years-old Egyptian relics, and gather bits of tourmaline and onyx and would stuff them in my pockets to gather these energies together and shock my imagination into believing that I was augmented in some way by them, or in contact with ancient ghosts. I would walk on the set looking like this, loaded with all these magical trinkets, and I wouldn't say a word to my co-stars or crew or directors. I saw the fear in their eyes, and it was like oxygen to a forest fire. I believed I was the Ghost Rider."

 

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post #8 of 27
2/2/12 at 9:50pm

Nicolas Cage is the fucking best.

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post #9 of 27
2/2/12 at 10:19pm
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Originally Posted by Cylon Baby View Post

 

Anyone else think there is a big disconnect between BNAT and ComicCon and "normal" moviegoing experiences?



You guys just figured this out?  Fuckin' A.  These nerd herds have no bearing on a film's merit or box office gross.  The studios do not go to Comic-Con because it's a huge platform to launch their films from.  They do it to shut places like this up.  Everyone always points at 300 and acts like Comic Con made that film what it was.  Bullshit.  That film's internet campaign and a slick-ass trailer made that film what it was.  Stop giving yourselves so much credit, nerds, I beg of you.  Cold hard truth: You're not fucking important to the studio, and these little events are simply to pacify you.  How many lay people do you hear saying, 'Wow, did you see that awesome footage from Comic-Con?  Holy shit!"  None.  Folks like us who follow that shit make up maybe 5% of the film-going population, if that.  The studios showing film footage to nerds is like a dominatrix putting that red ball-gag into her submissive's mouth so she can beat the shit out of him without him talking her ear off.  They throw you a bone, you all get boners, and then they carry on doing whatever the fuck it was they were gonna do without your input.  You've been had, people, and you've been had for quite some time.  The fact that people still fall for this propaganda shit shocks me.  It truly does.  Comic-Con/BNAT/Wonder-Con/Whatever-con is North Korea, and the studios are Kim Jong Il.  You've been hoodwinked by the regime, people.  Wake the fuck up.

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post #10 of 27
2/2/12 at 11:51pm
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Nicolas Cage is the fucking best.


I don't care in how many shitty movies he appears. I will adore his crazy fucking ass until I draw my last breath.

 

 

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post #11 of 27
2/3/12 at 6:33am

HarleyQuinn22,  You may be right, and you are also a...Little over the top as well.  I do not think that a film is successful...Because of events like SDCC, BNAT, NYCC, but I think it is cool to see footage of an upcoming superhero/fantasy film with alot of...like minded people.  Also...2 Weeks from now The...Ghost Rider roars on his road of Vengeance, through the...SPIRITed acting of...CAGEy Nic!  Finally a...Good movie arrives to enliven the...HELLishly dull month of February!

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post #12 of 27
2/3/12 at 7:09am

 

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"It occurred to me, because I was doing a character as far out of our reference point as the spirit of vengeance, I could use these techniques. I would paint my face with black and white make up to look like a Afro-Caribbean icon called Baron Samedi, or an Afro-New Orleans icon who is also called Baron Saturday. He is a spirit of death but he loves children; he's very lustful, so he's a conflict in forces. And I would put black contact lenses in my eyes so that you could see no white and no pupil, so I would look more like a skull or a white shark on attack."

"On my costume, my leather jacket, I would sew in ancient, thousands-of-years-old Egyptian relics, and gather bits of tourmaline and onyx and would stuff them in my pockets to gather these energies together and shock my imagination into believing that I was augmented in some way by them, or in contact with ancient ghosts. I would walk on the set looking like this, loaded with all these magical trinkets, and I wouldn't say a word to my co-stars or crew or directors. I saw the fear in their eyes, and it was like oxygen to a forest fire. I believed I was the Ghost Rider."

 

 

That's friggin amazing. Nic, don't ever change.

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post #13 of 27
2/3/12 at 7:27am

I will say I have no reason to doubt the BNAT reaction: it looks like a big pile of shit (much like the first one was).  

 

One of my favorite Cage anecdotes was from Opie and Anthony where they were interviewing him and Jim Norton relayed a story wherein he saw Cage and his entourage at a restaurant in LA and Cage denied it was him up and down, even after Norton says he saw the manager of the restaurant stop and pose for a picture with him and Cage signed autographs.  It was bizarre.  

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post #14 of 27
2/3/12 at 8:09pm

Duke your puns are more painful than Jack and Jill being projected into my fucking soul. Destroy them 

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post #15 of 27
2/3/12 at 9:22pm

Has Duke ever been really excited for a film, seen it and decided it was shit? It seems like he makes up his mind about a movie before ever watching it and just sticks to his guns.

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post #16 of 27
2/4/12 at 2:42am

Odo19, There are numerous examples...Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade, Greystoke The Legend Of Tarzan, Elektra, Batman Forever, Batman And Robin, Superman III and IV, Superman Returns, 

Conan The Barbarian (2011) was a let down.  There are others.  I do not completely decide a film is good before I see it.  I start getting excited about a film generally about the time of...Casting.  But I have not been disappointed by as many films I...wanted to see.  There have been films my friends and family wanted to see that I thought were terrible.

 

BlabedAboutMars, I think anytime you feel...Punny, you should go to a doctor.

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post #17 of 27
2/4/12 at 3:15am
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Originally Posted by Joseph P. Brenner View Post

http://worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=23909

 

 

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OH HELL YES!!!


 

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Originally Posted by stelios View Post


I don't care in how many shitty movies he appears. I will adore his crazy fucking ass until I draw my last breath.

 

 


100% agreed.  I really and truly hope he does write that book someday about his own "Nouveau Shamanic" acting philosophy that he has created, which is something he has been talking about doing for awhile now.  It will be a batshit crazy masterpiece!

 

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post #18 of 27
2/4/12 at 1:01pm

One day, they'll make a movie about Nicolas Cage. It will outJCVD JCVD.

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post #19 of 27
2/6/12 at 1:09am

Don't tease me!

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post #20 of 27
2/6/12 at 7:44am

Spirit Of Vengeance looks like it will be the lead...Rider of the Storm, on the road to...Box Office Gold, beating...Neveldine/Taylor's CRANKy early movies!

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post #21 of 27
2/16/12 at 4:30pm

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post #22 of 27
2/16/12 at 11:51pm

No Raising Arizona in that ENTIRE thing? Bull. Fucking. Shit.

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post #23 of 27
2/17/12 at 8:39am
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No Raising Arizona in that ENTIRE thing? Bull. Fucking. Shit.


You ate sand?

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post #24 of 27
2/17/12 at 7:30pm

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post #25 of 27
2/22/12 at 3:23am

I'm surprised this has done as well as it has.  I know it only opened to about half as much as the first, but I didn't even expect it to do THAT well.  Hell, its already made at least a third of its budget back.  That's not great, but it isn't embarrassing either.  Unless the drop-off is MASSIVE, it should at least break even at the BO.........possibly even turn a tiny profit.  Color me shocked.

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post #26 of 27
3/5/12 at 9:21pm

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post #27 of 27
3/8/12 at 5:37pm

I had an absolute blast watching this last weekend, by the way.  Cage seemed to be having the time of his life when playing Ghost Rider.  Some of his work as Blaze is fun too, but it's clear where his core interests were on this outing and they revolved solely around the man with the flaming skull.

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