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post #501 of 2316
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Only if she looks like Karen Gillan.
post #502 of 2316
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Because they're expensive. A historical companion, with the obvious returns to their home timeline, means episodes that cost quite a bit of money. An alien companion means make-up, which costs time and money.

 

Just do it old school.  A companion who never goes back home.  Pretty much all the companions back then were human or humanoid, regardless of what future world or alien planet they came from.

post #503 of 2316
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Then what's the difference between them and a contemporary companion?
post #504 of 2316
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Because they're expensive. A historical companion, with the obvious returns to their home timeline, means episodes that cost quite a bit of money. An alien companion means make-up, which costs time and money.

 

I don't see why they need to return often.  I think that's been way to much of a crutch in the newWho- heck!  People can even call their relatives when they're feeling blue.

 

2nd Doctor's companion Jamie never got occasional jaunts back to his native time.

post #505 of 2316
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Then what's the difference between them and a contemporary companion?

 

The perspective they bring as characters.

post #506 of 2316
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"What's a Dalek?"
"What's a Cyberman?"
"What's a Weeping Angel?"
"What's a Silurian?"

That's a companion's perspective. Whether they're from 2012 or 1895 or 3031, it's always going to be that.
post #507 of 2316
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Waaaaaaaaaaaaah. I don't like all of this change!

And, yes, I KNOW this is ironic, coming from a Doctor Who fan.

I think the new set will be easier for me to get used to than the orange coral look of recent years. As changes go, making the control room look warm and organic was pretty radical at the time.
post #508 of 2316

I want a slightly dishonest / shady companion, like Turlough was.

post #509 of 2316
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Because they're expensive. A historical companion, with the obvious returns to their home timeline, means episodes that cost quite a bit of money. An alien companion means make-up, which costs time and money.


 Once they've developed the makeup, why would they need to spend more money on it? They already have the Silurian makeup, for instance, and they haven't been particularly shy about using it so far. And I thought the whole point of this being a BBC show is that they can reuse all the sets and costumes from their historical programming for time travel. Like how classic Trek was always landing on gangster planets and ancient Roman planets because they were filming at a studio that already had all those costumes and sets.

post #510 of 2316
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The perspective they bring as characters.

 

 

Zoe: "I've just calculated 89,000 variables why you're wrong."

 

Romana: "I've just calculated 90,000 variables why you're wrong.  Of course."

 

Turlough: "me me me condescension me me me"

 

Jack Harkness: "Well, hello there..."

 

Leela: "die muthafuka die muthafuka die"

post #511 of 2316

Look, companions have to die, because it's DARK AND GRITTY!!!

DEEEEAAATTTHHH!!!! DARK & GRITTY!!! DEEEETAAAATTTHHH!!!!

 

etc.

post #512 of 2316

At least Clara looks to be something different. I’m glad that The Moff is open to trying interesting things with The Doctor’s companions because, as much as I liked the show under Russell T Davies, the companions were largely the weakest element (with the exception of Donna who I loved).  I’ve also missed the presence of a larger mystery in the first half of this season, and so the mystery surrounding Clara is warmingly welcomed.

 

Would be cool if Madame Vastra and her maid jumped onboard the TARDIS, actually. They’d make a cool ass-kicking team!

post #513 of 2316

I desperately want Madame Vastra to hang out in the Tardis and go on adventures, she's so much more fun and interesting than the usual type.

post #514 of 2316

That Victorian Sontaran looks like heaps of fun too. Having him buttle around the Tardis would be great.

post #515 of 2316

Here's the Christmas postcard my girlfriend and I sent out this year. We sent this out to most of our friends and family, but it'd be nice if some people who will actually get the Dr. Who reference see it. 

 

148026

post #516 of 2316

It's interesting looking at that card. At one point (before Nu-Who, I guess) if you said "Doctor Who" to someone who wasn't really a follower of the show, there was probably a 90% chance they'd think of Tom Baker with his long scarf. I wonder if most them would think of David Tennant or Matt Smith nowadays?

post #517 of 2316
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I would kill for a Vastra-Jenny-Strax spin-off. Fuck Torchwood.
post #518 of 2316
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I would kill for a Vastra-Jenny-Strax spin-off. Fuck Torchwood.

That would seem like it would have the same spirit as Doctor Who but with different characters. Torchwood tried too hard to be edgy. I wouldn't mind if Capt Jack showed up for a few episodes on Doctor Who.

post #519 of 2316
I enjoyed that! One of the better episodes of late, the control room is ace, Vastra is The Best, an origin story outta nowhere for something unexpected, and Clara continues to be baffling to all.

Shame about the rubbish opening titles, mind.
post #520 of 2316
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Is it true we're back to faces in the credits?  I thought those looked silly in Classic Who.

post #521 of 2316

I liked the opening titles! The new theme kicks ass and the title sequence is like taking acid whilst someone throws Doctor Who novels at you!

 

Enjoyed that. Not as good as A Christmas Carol but a billion times better than last year. It also made me laugh several times, which is never a bad thing. AND THE COMING SOON TRAILER WAS AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

post #522 of 2316
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Due to a Les Miserables date I can't watch the episode 'til tonight, but I snuck a peak at the teaser through to the credits.  Already better than last year!  And the titles were sort of awesome.

post #523 of 2316

Dude, you're going to love it.

post #524 of 2316
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I hope so.  The single scene I saw with the Doctor and Clara certainly hit every button that I have.

 

The Doctor with

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Amy's glasses

 

is the most perfect heartbreaking bit of continuity ever.

post #525 of 2316

Crap. Of course they were

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Amy's glasses!

 

*Slaps himself in the face* Somehow I completely missed that.

 

And I call myself a fan!

post #526 of 2316
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It wasn't a perfect episode -- the threat was a bit weak and the pacing could be awkward -- but I'll be damned if it didn't make me grin.  I love Clara.  There were so many moments in this episode that made me smile... the wonderful reveal of the TARDIS... "Sherlock Holmes"... that awesome cliffhanger ending.

 

I realize my thoughts are scatted; needless to say I'm quite happy.

post #527 of 2316

I was surprised Moffat was able to hold at bay the Mary Poppins vibe as well as he did, while simultaneously playing that card. He again managed to find the fairy tale / children's story in Doctor Who.

 

I'll agree that the threat never felt all that serious. And I'd have thought the children in the episode would have been more central to the story. But, Clara was charming and the mystery surrounding her is intriguing. A good start to the next era.

post #528 of 2316

Good LORD she's gorgeous.

post #529 of 2316
Bang tidy.

And a mystery. Looking forward to the second half now.
post #530 of 2316

My favorite line by far:

 

"Hello. I'm a lizardwoman from the dawn of time and this is my wife."

post #531 of 2316

Oh and in case anyone missed it, here's the Coming Soon trailer:

 

post #532 of 2316
I initially felt let down by the trifling monster and the way it never seemed to get dealt with in a decisive way; that was before I realized that the girl herself was the real mystery.

She seems like a charmer, and her chemistry with Smith is pretty terrific. This next season looks like it's going to be a delight.
post #533 of 2316

The new opening title sequence in HD:

 

 

Now, regarding a certain prop discussed here...

 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

...are you sure those are Pond's glasses?  Because they look a lot like Matt Smith's.

 

 

1000

 

 

 

post #534 of 2316

I love Clara but I really wish the Sontaran Butler was also a companion this year, he is ace.

 

Great episode, love the new Tardis interior, very appropriate with the 50th Anniversary coming up.  It will be interesting to see where this mystery is going.

 

Also in the back of my mind there is a something telling me that the London Underground in 1967 is important somehow but can't remember why.

post #535 of 2316
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Also in the back of my mind there is a something telling me that the London Underground in 1967 is important somehow but can't remember why.

 

The last story to deal with The Great Intelligence, aired in early 1968 but certainly filmed in '67:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Web_of_Fear

 

 

Or... were you joking about memory as an in-joke regarding this story being deleted by the BBC?

post #536 of 2316

Nope, I must have forgotten about that.  My Knowledge of Who pre Baker is pretty shaky though.

post #537 of 2316

I wish more of The Web Of Fear had survived. Not only because I could certainly do with watching more of the Second Doctor, but because the Yeti monsters with their glowing eyes actually look pretty scary in black and white.

post #538 of 2316
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Now, regarding a certain prop discussed here...

 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

...are you sure those are Pond's glasses?  Because they look a lot like Matt Smith's.

 

 

1000

 

 

 

 

 

He even takes them off and looks at them when Vastra relays that Clara said "Pond."

post #539 of 2316
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He even takes them off and looks at them when Vastra relays that Clara said "Pond."

 

Yeah, yeah, I got that.  I'm saying it looks like the showmakers liked Smith's glasses and decided to make them part of the show by introducing them as Amy's glasses that The Doctor keeps.

post #540 of 2316
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Quite possibly, though I don't understand why that's important.  They're very clearly supposed to be Amy's glasses in this episode.

post #541 of 2316

That's funny, I watched Remembrance of the Daleks a couple weeks ago, and Seven mentions that 'No one remembers Yeti in the Underground'

 

The episode: Jenna-Louise Coleman is impossibly cute.  That should be the season arc: Finding out why she is so overwhelmingly cute.

 

Like the new TARDIS.  Still feels a little dim inside, but I love how dynamic and vast it seems, even though it's a smaller set.  I think it's the neon heading down into an infinity effect that does it for me.

 

Very much enjoyed the comedy in the episode.  Strax and Vastra and Jenny(?) can stick around forever too. Dan Starkey mines Strax' for all he's worth, and it works.

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post #543 of 2316
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Oh and in case anyone missed it, here's the Coming Soon trailer:

 

Did I spy Liam Cunningham in that?

 

Looking good :)

post #544 of 2316

Well, that was delightful. So, Clara is going to be the ongoing plot I guess. I couldn't be happier. Her chemistry with the Doctor is off the charts.

 

And she has the cutest nose in the universe.

 

Edit: I really liked the new Tardis.


Edited by stelios - 12/26/12 at 12:52pm
post #545 of 2316
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Well, that was delightful. So, Clara is going to be the ongoing plot I guess. I couldn't be happier. Her chemistry with the Doctor is off the charts.

 

And she has the cutest nose in the universe.

 

Edit: I really liked the new Tardis.

Ditto.  All of it.  Plus, Drax is hilarious, more Drax!

post #546 of 2316
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Originally Posted by stelios View Post Her chemistry with the Doctor is off the charts.

I can not wait until River meets her, just because The Doctor is so obviously smitten with Clara in much more than a 'she seems like she'll be fun to adventure through the cosmos with' way.

post #547 of 2316

  I enjoyed the Hell out of The Snowmen. I know that isn't a well thought out statement, but its an honest one. I prefer the sleeker  design of the TARDIS. Clara was awesome.  It look like from the teaser that Vastra, Jenny and Strax will be back. They deserve a spin off.

 

"Its smaller on the outside."

post #548 of 2316

Maybe it's time for me to stop watching this show.  This episode just left me bored. Kinda like eating a big varied meal and still somehow being hungry after wards.

-hated the new opening/theme. Wasn't broken, why change it. It seems shorter, but way too much lens flare/sparkly lights. The passing ghostly image of Smith's face was lame. Music certainly wasn't improved.

-New Tardis interior, a bit smaller true, but I liked the kinda 'steampunk' look with lots of different mechanical bits seemingly haphazardly added of the last design.

really didn't like that they didn't explain the change at all.

-I realize the program is primarily aimed at younger audiences, and they want to tone down the fright factor, but that leaves the antagonist as weak and kinda anticlimactic. Hard to mix more adult ideas and kiddie fare in one show, I guess.

-Clara was likeable enuff, and the supporting staff in this episode were really well done and interesting, so much so that I enjoyed them so much more than the rest of the program. The lady playing the lizard character was truly beautiful, and that trio played off of each other perfectly.

- The Doc gives her the key to his apartment after just a kiss? What? Seemed forced emotion, played very lame to me.

- I get that the Doc is lonely and heartbroken that all his companions move on in one way or another, sometimes due to him, sometimes not. The only companion I ever felt real  loss for was Adric, who died heroically and was never 'brought back' or re-visited in some sort of flashback. When a companion leaves now I always have a feeling they'll be back under some pretense in a future show.

- Matt Smith is so un-even in his acting. He's depressed and moping, he's suddenly lively and goofy, and his mood swings vary so much and so quickly it's effect to me is over the top.

Like I said, maybe it's time to move on to other series, cause this one is getting kinda stale to me.

post #549 of 2316

If your problems are what you describe you're right. You should move on. No offense meant. At least until Moffat leaves.

post #550 of 2316
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I will watch every episode twice to make up for the loss.

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