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post #101 of 196

The album's way better than it has any right to be. Everyone's chops are quite in order too. Tattoo is indeed one of the weekest tracks. Haven't bought a cd in quite awhile. Took Diamond Dave and crew to bring me back.

post #102 of 196

Opening night

 

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Diamond Dave stops the song to put some meat head in his place.

post #105 of 196
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I saw them at the Staples Center tonight. Great show! Dropping Pretty Woman from the set wouldn't hurt my feelings and Dave's little spiel about herding dogs was very Dave but it could also afford to be scrapped. Whatever speculation there is about why they postponed all the dates after June didn't affect anyone's spirits tonight. There wasn't an empty seat in the arena and the band and the crowd had great energy. The set was pretty much the standard one, I was hoping for a rarity but no dice. Still well worth it. Eddie killed it on his solo.

 

It was an interesting day. I got to experience two remnants of my childhood in the 21st century, a (sort of) new Ridley Scott Alien film and a (sort of) reformed Van Halen touring behind a new album.  I'm glad one of them delivered.
 

 

And Kool and The Gang proved to be a great opener as well. The crowd really got into their set.

post #106 of 196
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It looks like this year is shaping up to be a busy year for them, so I thought I'd resurrect this thread. In addition to the live album coming out at the end of the month (the first official one with DLR) and a rumored tour, they're making a April 2nd appearance on Ellen.

 

Yeah. 

 

Ellen. 

 

David Lee Roth expressed in interest in playing Coachella, which they would be perfect for, as an old-ish band always headlines one of the nights but instead, we get an appearance on Ellen.

 

I guess that's something. 

post #107 of 196

I've also heard they might be on Kimmel March 31st.

post #108 of 196
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I've also heard they might be on Kimmel March 31st.

 

Yeah, I heard that as well. That's a little better but Ellen? I get the exposure but what demographic are they trying to appeal to? I think David Lee Roth has it right, put them in venues that will introduce them to younger fans who have no clue who they are but Ellen. Sure. 

post #109 of 196

If Van Halen are on Ellen, I'm watching.

 

This is a few months old, but it hasn't been posted here or the classic rock thread, so why not post it here.

I'm cool with Diamond Dave's new hair style, but I could be basis since I also shave my head.

post #110 of 196
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If Van Halen are on Ellen, I'm watching.

 

This is a few months old, but it hasn't been posted here or the classic rock thread, so why not post it here.

I'm cool with Diamond Dave's new hair style, but I could be basis since I also shave my head.

 

My friend was at this show. He's not really a VH fan. In fact, when he told me about he was like "Isn't David Lee Roth that guy that sings for Van Halen?" That being said, he said this was the best part of the night. 

post #111 of 196
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This:

 

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/van-halen-announces-north-american-tour-jimmy-kimmel-live-appearance/

 

And both Kimmel shows are sold out.

 

Must make phone calls....

post #112 of 196

I saw them three years ago in MN.  They sucked.  Actually, the band was great...it was DLR who sucked, missing every note and botching/ad libbing the lyrics to almost every song.  It was easily one of the worst concerts that I've ever attended, so I'm gonna pass on ever seeing them again.

post #113 of 196
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I saw them three years ago in MN.  They sucked.  Actually, the band was great...it was DLR who sucked, missing every note and botching/ad libbing the lyrics to almost every song.  It was easily one of the worst concerts that I've ever attended, so I'm gonna pass on ever seeing them again.

 

His voice is definitely touch and go at this point. I saw them at the Staples Center and that happened to be one of his "on" shows. His range is gone but they sounded awesome that night. 

post #114 of 196

I just felt really let down by his performance. Again, the band sounded GREAT, with Eddie ripping it up as expected on every song.  The background vocals were perfect (or as perfect as they could be without Michael Anthony being there), in tune, and on lyric.  DLR though...fuck was he awful.  He's never been a great singer, but it was like he never even tried that night.  Off key, off melody, and off lyric for most of the night.  He put in an effort on the newer songs, but all of the classics sounded like bad karaoke versions.  It was inexcusable for a professional to deliver that shitty of a performance.

 

I saw Van Halen back in the 80s with Sammy Hagar for OU812 (the Monsters of Rock tour) and they were fantastic.  I was pretty crushed to finally see them with DLR and have them totally suck.

post #115 of 196
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I just felt really let down by his performance. Again, the band sounded GREAT, with Eddie ripping it up as expected on every song.  The background vocals were perfect (or as perfect as they could be without Michael Anthony being there), in tune, and on lyric.  DLR though...fuck was he awful.  He's never been a great singer, but it was like he never even tried that night.  Off key, off melody, and off lyric for most of the night.  He put in an effort on the newer songs, but all of the classics sounded like bad karaoke versions.  It was inexcusable for a professional to deliver that shitty of a performance.

 

I saw Van Halen back in the 80s with Sammy Hagar for OU812 (the Monsters of Rock tour) and they were fantastic.  I was pretty crushed to finally see them with DLR and have them totally suck.

That's totally fair but the ad libbing lyrics and acting like a goofball is nothing new with Roth. The '83 Us Festival performance isn't one of their better ones and has Roth doing a lot of the things you (understandably) found annoying. I realize seeing them is rolling the dice in terms of his voice holding up but I still get a kick of his presence and swagger. 

 

I saw them with Hagar in 2004 and also on the Roth/ Hagar tour in 2002, so I've seen Hagar live and he's definitely taken better care of his voice. At this point, though, the hard rock Jimmy Buffett schtick just doesn't work for me. I do respect that he continues to do well with it and it clearly brings him joy (and gives Michael Anthony employment), so more power to him. 

post #116 of 196

At this point, DLR is all about putting on a show and 'being DLR up on stage', thinking that's all that he needs to give the audience.  Sammy still cares about putting on a quality vocal performance, and that goes a long way with me.  Sorry, but when I'm paying that kind of money, I expect for you to put in the damned effort to actually SING.  Doing karate high kicks will only go so far in entertaining me.

 

Sorry.  That concert is kinda a sore spot for me.  It is for a lot of other people too, I think...the post-concert walkout conversation indicated that a lot of people around me thought that the concert sucked, and everyone at the bar across from the XCEL Areana was bitching about DLR afterwards.  It was actually kinda funny...the bartender was asking everyone how the concert was and everyone was struggling to say something good about it.

post #117 of 196
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At this point, DLR is all about putting on a show and 'being DLR up on stage', thinking that's all that he needs to give the audience.  Sammy still cares about putting on a quality vocal performance, and that goes a long way with me.  Sorry, but when I'm paying that kind of money, I expect for you to put in the damned effort to actually SING.  Doing karate high kicks will only go so far in entertaining me.

 

Sorry.  That concert is kinda a sore spot for me.  It is for a lot of other people too, I think...the post-concert walkout conversation indicated that a lot of people around me thought that the concert sucked, and everyone at the bar across from the XCEL Areana was bitching about DLR afterwards.  It was actually kinda funny...the bartender was asking everyone how the concert was and everyone was struggling to say something good about it.

 

Again, I get it. His voice is not what it was. I check the Van Halen forums on occasion and they are ripping apart his vocals on the new live album right now. They'll still buy it but they aren't going to be happy about it, dammit!

post #118 of 196

 I will be at the Pittsburgh July 28th show!

post #119 of 196
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Pretty good performance on Jimmy Kimmel last night:

I really wanted to be there but I had to return equipment, pick up my dog and work on a script.

Being a grown up. amirite?
post #120 of 196

Again, the band sounds great, but DLR is all over the fucking map.  Just terrible.

post #121 of 196
It's not surprising. His off the cuff attitude and showmanship is what really pushes the band as opposed to being a good vocalist. I guess you could say he's the William Shatner of vocalists.

I'm curious about something. I always knew DLR has never stayed consistent to what he sounded like on the albums, even 30 years ago. When he would record vocals in the studio, was he always putting in a different spin on how he delivered those vocals on each take instead of sticking to something consistent?
post #122 of 196
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It's not surprising. His off the cuff attitude and showmanship is what really pushes the band as opposed to being a good vocalist. I guess you could say he's the William Shatner of vocalists.

I'm curious about something. I always knew DLR has never stayed consistent to what he sounded like on the albums, even 30 years ago. When he would record vocals in the studio, was he always putting in a different spin on how he delivered those vocals on each take instead of sticking to something consistent?

 

I have two bootlegs from the Dave era, one of which is the infamous Us Festival appearance. Yes, changing the lyrics, talking and "Skizzely bobbity boop!"-ing is pretty much how he's always performed live. The only difference now is he doesn't have the range he did. 

 

Van Halen fans: Angry when Dave isn't in the band, angry when he is. What a bunch of malcontents (and I'm not talking about you, Judas. Your complaints are mild compared to some of the others). 

post #123 of 196

 

Nobody has personality like this guy. He's always been a "bad" singer/vocalist. Great and unique frontman though, whose mere presence on a stage gives Eddie fire and edge.

 

That's chemistry yo!

post #124 of 196
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Nobody has personality like this guy. He's always been a "bad singer/vocalist". Great and unique frontman though, whose mere presence on a stage gives Eddie fire and edge.

 

That's chemistry yo!

 

Exactly. He's always been a showman. And his work on the first six VH albums (as well as Eat 'Em and Smile) is rock and roll that's up to par with any of the other "famous" frontmen from the 60s/70s/80s. 

post #125 of 196

 I have to admit that Dave vocal performance last night wasn't one for the ages, but I still enjoyed the set. Maybe I'm such a fan that I can't be adjective, but I thought Van Halen rocked! I'm looking forward to when the full clip of Dance the Night Away hits youtube. I thought it was cool he brought that woman up on stage to dance.

 

  I just found a fan shot clip of it.

post #126 of 196

 I do think its cool when Dave pulls the woman on stage to dance, but if they do that bit on the tour, drop the shy girl randomly pulled from the audience act. Just have her come out on stage.

post #127 of 196
Just watched this. I suppose this should give you an idea of Roth actually sounded like back in the band's prime.



2:21: "I FORGOT THE FUCKIN' WORDS!"

And nobody cared.
post #128 of 196

Van Halen on The Billboard Music Awards

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Van Halen on The Billboard Music Awards

 

 

 

Solid performance but what's up with the annoying little PiP?

post #130 of 196

It's weird but he doesn't look comfortable on stage anymore?  Like he doesn't know what the hell to do with his older body or something, and man, he sounds fucking terrible! 

 

Eddie should be seriously begging Sammy back. 

post #131 of 196

 

  When it comes to  the Sammy Hagar and Van Halen, my motto is better dead than red rocker! Sammy may be the better singer, but they rock with Dave. Van Hagar is much more in line with Journey.

post #132 of 196

Jesus, that VH clip from the awards is effing terrible.  The band sounds good BUT completely out of synch with each other, and DLR isn't even trying to make his vocals worth listening to.  Eddie should be embarrassed.

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  When it comes to  the Sammy Hagar and Van Halen, my motto is better dead than red rocker! Sammy may be the better singer, but they rock with Dave. Van Hagar is much more in line with Journey.

Disagree.  At this point Sammy is a far, far better front man then DLR and it's really not even close.  Sammy still looks comfortable on stage and is the better singer.   DLR looks and sounds desperate.  

post #134 of 196
I don't really get that at all from Dave's performance. He just looks happy to be there get the crowd going. As far as him being out of sync and stuff, that's just Dave being Dave. He's never been a great vocalist like Sammy. I think Eddie Trunk really sums it up best regarding DLR, his studio vs live performances:

post #135 of 196

I totally get that DLR was never great singer live, but he was a great front man.  I'm not seeing it here.  You can get away with it when you are in your 20's and 30's with all the energy.  Not now.

post #136 of 196

I thought the Billboard Awards performance was good. I'm still psyched to see Van Halen in July.

post #137 of 196

It's always different seeing it live.  I don't know how many concerts I've seen where I was blown away, only to watch it on youtube and it wasn't good.  I much prefer seeing bands live in the moment with the crowd and all of that.  

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It's always different seeing it live.  I don't know how many concerts I've seen where I was blown away, only to watch it on youtube and it wasn't good.  I much prefer seeing bands live in the moment with the crowd and all of that.  


 I can relate. The last tome I saw Kiss was when they toured with Motley Crue. I had a blast when Kiss was on, but when I saw youtube videos from that show I realized how rough Paul Stanley sounded. His voice is shot to hell. Fun fact there was a rumor that Kiss and Van Halen where the same band.

post #139 of 196
Eddie is probably the best and worst thing to happen to the band. Guy never knew when to keep his mouth shut.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/sammy-hagar-slams-eddie-van-halen-youre-a-liar-20150620
post #140 of 196
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 I can relate. The last tome I saw Kiss was when they toured with Motley Crue. I had a blast when Kiss was on, but when I saw youtube videos from that show I realized how rough Paul Stanley sounded. His voice is shot to hell. Fun fact there was a rumor that Kiss and Van Halen where the same band.

I saw the same concert.  I loved them both and refuse to see any youtube.  Let the memories be.  

post #141 of 196
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Eddie is probably the best and worst thing to happen to the band. Guy never knew when to keep his mouth shut.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/sammy-hagar-slams-eddie-van-halen-youre-a-liar-20150620

Yeah, Eddie is a hassle, but it's his band.  

 

It's funny reading the billbaord interview and he said Roth and him hate each other but it's what the fans want.  It's almost depressing really.  

 

I still think the best thing for the band is to get Sammy back.  He's still a great frontman even at this age.  

post #142 of 196

I love Sammy and someone needs to get him to stop being Jimmy Buffet.

post #143 of 196
Reading what Eddie says, I can't blame anyone for not liking him. He's shown a great talent at both the guitar and burning bridges. Sammy has it right, he's a pathological liar. Dave has been saying it for 30 years.
post #144 of 196
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I love Sammy and someone needs to get him to stop being Jimmy Buffet.

I don't think Sammy cares.  He's has all the money in the world just by selling his tequlia brand now he's just playing for fun.  I kinda dig that. 

 

I did love Eddie talking about Jackson's Beat it.  He rearranged the whole song and I don't thing he ever got a dime off of it nor did he ever pursue it.  He said it was 20 minutes off his life.  

post #145 of 196
All that said, Anthony is total class. He doesn't deserve any mudslinging.
post #146 of 196
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All that said, Anthony is total class. He doesn't deserve any mudslinging.

Eddie did say he tought him every single cord he knows, so who the hell knows.  Whatever the case he seems like a cool guy -  at least in the Howard Stern interview.  

 


He can't complain too much.  He's had a charmed life.

 

Whatever the case - Eddie is a complete genius.  Ride it out.

post #147 of 196

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/eddie-van-halen-slams-michael-anthony-i-have-more-soul-as-a-singer-than-he-does/

 

  Eddie Van Halen is a double edged sword. He is a brilliant player and he revolutionized guitar playing, but he is such an asshole. That is so fucking classless of him to demean Michael Anthony's contribution to Van Halen. I wanted Roth back in the band so much, I was accepted Wolfgang in the band and he has done a fine job replacing Anthony. That said in a perfect world Anthony would still be in the band. I also rationalized it as Eddie's fault, not Dave's; who is the dude I had been siding with all these years.

 

 Whatever one thinks of Roth, he is who he is. Eddie's attitude of its always someone else fault pisses me off.

post #148 of 196
For a long time I was torn on who was giving the honest side of the story but over the years I've been willing to hear what Dave and Sammy have to say cause they always kept their stories straight, whereas Eddie always had a habit of changing his side of the story in different interviews to make him seem less at fault.
post #149 of 196

 Eddie also made some crack about Dave needing to act his age. Its not like Dave is still wearing ass-less leather chaps, saying,"Don't squirt water on me. I'm gonna fuck your girlfriend pal!" anymore, and he he appears to be comfortable with his lack of hair. He is still going all out to entertain the crowd which is what people except from him. Eddie also says the reason there isn't a new Va Halen CD planned is because Dave is more into dance music. My guess is Dave just has his own views and doesn't agree with Eddie on everything. A couple of years ago Dave said he would like to write a new record with Eddie. As usual I think the truth is closer to Dave's side.

post #150 of 196
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That was a thoroughly disappointing interview. I've always thought Michael Anthony was underrated and the fact he's getting shit on by his own (former) bandmate is supremely lame. 

 

I liken people questioning Michael Anthony's skills to the people who still question Ringo Starr's skills. Aside from just really listening to some of their work, if you can reach a point where you're not only signed by a major label, sell millions of records, play for millions of people and sustain that for a period of years, you've got something. 

 

Are either the absolute best in their respective arenas? Probably not, but there's a shit ton of people who don't come close to them, either. 

 

Bad form, Eddie. 

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