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30 Rock: Season 6

post #1 of 296
1/13/12 at 8:02am
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Did a quick search, and couldn't find a thread for the new season, so figured I'd start one.

 

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post #2 of 296
1/13/12 at 8:28am

There was so much goodness in last night's episode, I don't know where to begin.

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post #3 of 296
1/13/12 at 8:41am
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Yeah, really not sure where to begin.  America's Kidz Got Singing, the Christmas card, Lemon's gynecologist apparently being a 10 year old, the People magazine crossword...  Good to have this back.

 

I haven't been paying attention to casting rumors, so any idea on who Liz's mystery man is?

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post #4 of 296
1/13/12 at 8:54am

Oh man am I thrilled for this to be back. I can't tell if the America's Kids Got Singing thread or the Rapture thread; they both go to great places. I think the dissonance struck in seeing Kenneth happily grinning as he says "time to die" really did it for me-- and how can you beat a gun-toting Santa popping out of a dumpster?

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post #5 of 296
1/13/12 at 9:55am
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Oh man am I thrilled for this to be back. I can't tell if the America's Kids Got Singing thread or the Rapture thread; they both go to great places. I think the dissonance struck in seeing Kenneth happily grinning as he says "time to die" really did it for me-- and how can you beat a gun-toting Santa popping out of a dumpster?


...don't forget Satan and Jesus

 

 

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post #6 of 296
1/13/12 at 10:07am

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Well I've got my Halloween costume this year.

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post #7 of 296
1/13/12 at 11:27am

I thought the rapture storyline was good but I honestly could have taken a whole episode of Jane Krakowski berating kids. That was hilarious.

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post #8 of 296
1/13/12 at 12:11pm

Go back up your mother, Liddy.

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post #9 of 296
1/13/12 at 12:13pm
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I haven't been paying attention to casting rumors, so any idea on who Liz's mystery man is?


James Marsden.

 

Loved this, but it kinda felt short and skimpy, like a teaser for the upcoming season.

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post #10 of 296
1/13/12 at 1:29pm
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James Marsden.

 

Loved this, but it kinda felt short and skimpy, like a teaser for the upcoming season.


Cyclops himself.  Awesome!

 

And I kind of liked that it felt somewhat like a teaser, and imagine it was likely intentional.  I mean, we've been away from these characters for longer than usual, and are essentially being dropped into what would usually be a season's halfway point.  Like Jack, we're supposed to be a bit disoriented and confused.

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post #11 of 296
1/13/12 at 1:29pm
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...don't forget Satan and Jesus

 

 



Or Lutz trying to hold hands with Frank while they were watching the sunset.

 

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post #12 of 296
1/16/12 at 10:59am

Having this show in syndication has rekindled my love for it, and I was very happy to finally see it return with a new episode.

 

And after finding out the "Timeless Torches" is a real thing and that they featured actual members, it makes me love it all the more.

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post #13 of 296
1/16/12 at 11:15am

I could definitely watch hours and hours of Jenna demolishing kids.  I didn't care for the Rapture storyline (outside of the sight gag of Santa Frank and Twosus rising from the dumpster), but it was great to have everyone back.  I am unreasonably tickled by the fact that both D'fwan and John McEnroe have both become recurring characters in their own right.

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post #14 of 296
1/19/12 at 6:48pm

Non't

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Cidiots

 

The brief shot of Kenneth-as-Jenna is going to give me nightmares.

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post #15 of 296
1/20/12 at 7:41am

The whole Kelsey Grammer-James Bond thing slayed me and continues too. Good lord.

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post #16 of 296
1/20/12 at 8:01am
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The whole Kelsey Grammer-James Bond thing slayed me and continues too. Good lord.


Same, although the rest of the episode fell flat for me.  I think it had something to do with them opening on that teaser, not resolving anything, and then ending with "to be continued."  Felt like a cop out.  Not to mention them completely lifting a joke from Community.  For the record, Alison Brie does the train thing better.

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post #17 of 296
1/20/12 at 8:22am

The Brietrain is unstoppable, no doubt, but I thought they did enough to make it specific to Liz with it nearly hospitalizing her and her disbelief that it actually worked.

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post #18 of 296
1/20/12 at 9:39am
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Same, although the rest of the episode fell flat for me.  I think it had something to do with them opening on that teaser, not resolving anything, and then ending with "to be continued."  Felt like a cop out.  Not to mention them completely lifting a joke from Community.  For the record, Alison Brie does the train thing better.


 

In fairness, Allison Brie > Tina Fey every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

 

Way better episode than the season opener.  The auto-erotic asphyxiation joke was killer.  I couldn't breathe (hah!).

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post #19 of 296
1/20/12 at 10:35am
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In fairness, Allison Brie > Tina Fey every day of the week and twice on Sundays.



Wait... are you talking as a comedic actress or just in terms of hotness?

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post #20 of 296
1/20/12 at 11:15am

Putting Brie over Fey in any capacity is sort of blasphemous, no? Sure, Brie is a hot little package with good comic timing, but...?

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post #21 of 296
1/20/12 at 11:40am

Yeah, that's why I asked for the clarification. Tina Fey is simply one of the funniest people in the business right now.

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post #22 of 296
1/20/12 at 11:48am

No offense to Brie, but you'd have to put Dan Harmon's brain into her body in order to compete with Fey on a "total package" level.

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post #23 of 296
1/20/12 at 1:47pm
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Wait... are you talking as a comedic actress or just in terms of hotness?



Hotness. I was simply comparing each comedic actress's trains and Brie won on hotness level.

 

I don't think there are any people writing comedy on TV right now that I'd put above Tina Fey.  She's a genius, and a fairly attractive lady to boot.  Sorry for the confusion.

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post #24 of 296
1/20/12 at 2:19pm

I've come to the conclusion that I think I'd like this show even more if they slowly just phased out Kenneth and Jenna.   

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post #25 of 296
1/20/12 at 2:21pm
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Just replace them with D'Fwan and McEnroe.  Nobody would notice.

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post #26 of 296
1/20/12 at 2:26pm

Jenna is still fun, but I can do without Kenneth.

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post #27 of 296
1/20/12 at 2:34pm

Yeah, Krakowski's the unsung hero of the show.  She was the best part of the premiere, and her insanely dark Phil Spector joke may have been the funniest bit of this one (okay, it may also have been shadow Kelsey Grammar knocking the gun out of a bear's hand).

 

But yeah, Kenneth has run his course and then some.  I know they aren't going to just drop one of their actors (unless its Josh, or Danny) this late in the game, but at this point they'd be better off keeping him on the peripherary than giving him even his own C plot.  Eat the cost of his contract and just treat him like Lutz or Cerie (who we haven't seen much lately mad.gif).  Won't happen, but...

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post #28 of 296
1/20/12 at 2:43pm

 

You guys leave Kenneth alone! The bit about him being supernaturally ageless is one of my favorite running jokes on the show.

 

Edit: And Schwartz, I think Josh left the show a couple of seasons ago.

 

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Hotness. I was simply comparing each comedic actress's trains and Brie won on hotness level.

 

I don't think there are any people writing comedy on TV right now that I'd put above Tina Fey.  She's a genius, and a fairly attractive lady to boot.  Sorry for the confusion.


Thanks for the clarification.

 

I certainly agree with you in terms of pure physical attractiveness, but it does raise an interesting consideration. Allison Brie has got the hotness, but I find Tina Fey more attractive as an overall person.

 

I think in my NBC Thursday Night Sitcom "Marry, Fuck, Kill" Triad, it would go Tina Fey, Allison Brie, and Whitney Cummings.

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post #29 of 296
1/20/12 at 3:13pm

 

Marry:  Tina Fey, Gillian Jacobs, Jenna Fischer, Rashida Jones

 

Fuck:  Katrina Boden, Allison Brie, Ellie Kemper, Aubrey Plaza

 

Kill:  Whitney Cummings, Angela Kinsey, Chelsea Handler, Whitney Cummings again (she gets shows on NBC and CBS, I get to kill her with a pitchfork and piano wire)

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post #30 of 296
1/20/12 at 3:24pm
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Marry:  Tina Fey, Gillian Jacobs, Jenna Fischer, Rashida Jones

 

Fuck:  Katrina Boden, Allison Brie, Ellie Kemper, Aubrey Plaza

 

Kill:  Whitney Cummings, Angela Kinsey, Chelsea Handler, Whitney Cummings again (she gets shows on NBC and CBS, I get to kill her with a pitchfork and piano wire)



I'd add Laura Prepon to the second category, but otherwise wholly agree.

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post #31 of 296
1/20/12 at 3:33pm

Prepon doesn't warrant consideration from me until she reembraces her gloriously ginger roots.

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post #32 of 296
1/20/12 at 3:37pm

According to Entertainment Weekly, Kenneth could be leaving...

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post #33 of 296
1/22/12 at 12:31am

I actually like Kenneth, mostly because I think Jack McBrayer is very good at what he does. The writing hasn't always lived up to that, but every other episode or so he absolutely crushes a joke. I certainly like him more than the (in show) writers.

 

Interesting situation they've created for themselves, writing a scenario around the Tracy Morgan gay rant. I wouldn't say it's playing off comic dividends, exactly. But the Kelsey Grammer stuff is sure funny.

 

By the way, for a depressed single person, Liz Lemon has hooked up with John Hamm, Matt Damon, Michael Sheen, James Franco, Peter Dinklage (!), and now James Marsden. And others I'm no doubt forgetting. 

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post #34 of 296
1/22/12 at 1:12am
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By the way, for a depressed single person, Liz Lemon has hooked up with John Hamm, Matt Damon, Michael Sheen, James Franco, Peter Dinklage (!), and now James Marsden. And others I'm no doubt forgetting. 


I guess it's actually supposed to be the joke.

 

Anyway, I'm in awe of the absolute density of jokes in this show. It's constantly setup-punchline, setup-punchline and the episodes still manage to have a through-line. The writers must be working 48 hour days.

 

 

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post #35 of 296
1/22/12 at 1:24am

The Premiere was aces. Didn't really laugh much in ep2 until the Kelsey/James Bond stuff at the end.

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post #36 of 296
1/26/12 at 5:37pm

Jack's probationary approval card is the couple of wavy lines from Ghostbusters.  I want to sex this show so hard.

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post #37 of 296
1/26/12 at 6:01pm

Holy shit that Martin Luther King Day trailer is the greatest thing I've seen all week. And yes I am writing that literally seconds after it aired. That's how great it was.

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post #38 of 296
1/26/12 at 9:32pm

"They say the people that kill themselves never regret it."

 

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post #39 of 296
1/26/12 at 9:32pm

 

Got MLK ?

 

http://www.nbc.com/30-rock/video/martin-luther-king-day---the-movie/1381316

 

:)

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post #40 of 296
1/26/12 at 9:39pm

I fell in love with Liz when she said idiots are responsible for birthers and intelligent design.

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post #41 of 296
1/26/12 at 9:54pm

What were all the media outlets covering the idiots' press conference?  I got Fox News, Spike and I think Yahoo.

 

And my favorite (paraphrased) line of the night: "It is because of people like you that we are going to have an Entourage movie!"

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post #42 of 296
1/27/12 at 5:18am

Cinemax was one of them.

 

I liked the little throwaway moment after Lemon's speech between Denise Richards and Tracey--"Wanna have sex?"  "Not right now."

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post #43 of 296
1/27/12 at 6:48am

"We're called Peen."

"What is that an acronym for?"

"Acronym?"

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post #44 of 296
1/27/12 at 7:41am
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Cinemax was one of them.

 

I liked the little throwaway moment after Lemon's speech between Denise Richards and Tracey--"Wanna have sex?"  "Not right now."



On the version I saw she says "wanna make out".

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post #45 of 296
1/27/12 at 10:58am
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And my favorite (paraphrased) line of the night: "It is because of people like you that we are going to have an Entourage movie!"



TURTLE TURTLE TURTLE

 

"Idiots can do anything. I played a nuclear psychiatrist in a James Bond movie."

 

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post #46 of 296
1/27/12 at 11:03am

 And I'm pretty sure she mispronounced "Bond".

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post #47 of 296
1/27/12 at 5:56pm

Yep, "Bong" with a hard G sound.

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post #48 of 296
1/28/12 at 10:13am

So am I the only one who just kind of sighs whenever Jenna opens her mouth, because it's always "This is more fun than NON SEQUITUR" "That reminds me of NON SEQUITUR" ?  I really love the dark and weird places this show can go, but I feel like they have a Jenna line pile and just fill 12 random ones in an episode.  They need to bring back her tranny boyfriend.

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post #49 of 296
1/28/12 at 10:47am
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So am I the only one who just kind of sighs whenever Jenna opens her mouth, because it's always "This is more fun than NON SEQUITUR" "That reminds me of NON SEQUITUR" ?  I really love the dark and weird places this show can go, but I feel like they have a Jenna line pile and just fill 12 random ones in an episode.  They need to bring back her tranny boyfriend.



You could say similar things about Tracy and Kenneth.  I like Jenna because her non sequiturs are usually the source of the show's darkest jokes (what with all the stuff about narrowly escaping Mickey Rourke/the Sheik/the Atlanta Falcons locker room), and she also provides a source for some of the best show biz satire stuff (she gave us not only America's Kidz Got Singing and Martin Luther King Day, but The Rural Juror and the torture porn/Connecticut tourism ad mash-up).  I think Krakowski's probably the most underrated comic performer on the show.

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post #50 of 296
1/28/12 at 6:01pm

For sheer Awful Jenna-ness, I don't think they can top the Phil Spector reference from last week's show.

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