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Little Shop of Horrors (1986)

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Seriously, how is there not already a thread for this? Anyway, this is both one of the best movie musicals of the 80s and one of my favorites of all time. Everything just clicks and melds together into a perfect package. Laundry list!:

 

-Yeah, judging by my above statement, you're probably wondering what I think of the substantially revised ending. Well, I think it works great for the film. The movie is already a little sweeter and not quite as mean as the stage show (which I love too), so I think that pitch-black ending would've jarred tonally.

 

-Plus, we get the utterly awesome "Mean Green Mother From Outer Space" song as part of the new ending, and I wouldn't trade that for anything.

 

-Again, as much as I've enjoyed the stage productions I've seen of this, the film's cast is pretty much definitive for these roles in my eyes. Rick Moranis is Seymour embodied, Ellen Greene is the only Audrey for me, Vincent Gardenia is just the right mix of grandfatherly ruthlessness as Mushnik, Steve Martin is a powerhouse of energetic douchebaggery as Orin Scrivello DDS, Bill Murray nearly walks away with the movie, and the other cameos by John Candy, Christopher Guest, and Jim Belushi are also terrific.

 

-Additionally, Levi Stubbs is irreplaceable as the voice of Audrey II. There's so much energy and sneering villainy to his voice, and he belts out those songs like an absolute pro.

 

-Speaking of, that plant in its various forms is one of my favorite practical effects in all of film. It just looks, moves and feels so real. I know part of that effect for the largest puppets was that they sped up its movements by filming at half-speed, but I honestly can't tell. It moves so fast and fluidly, and there's no "giveaway" shots that the other actors are sped up as well. I often think the CGI backlash is incredibly overblown, but this creature could never, ever work in CGI the way it does here.

 

-What was so great about Howard Ashman and Alan Menken in their all-too-brief partnership was that they could mix styles of songs, even if the project had a unified musical theme. So here, we have a lot of 50s rock, pop and even Motown style songs, but we also get a couple of beautiful full-on Broadway numbers like "Suddenly Seymour" or "Somewhere That's Green".

 

-Ashman's clever, fast-paced lyrics serve as a precursor for what he could do for Disney in Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast.

 

-I like that Frank Oz doesn't show off too much, but lets the story and actors guide his camera. The production design is a nice mixture of true grittiness and a real old-school, "big sets and lots of dancers" movie musical approach, and the comic timing and editing is perfection.

 

Any thoughts?

post #2 of 13

I love the practical sets.  They basically built a full-scale Skid Row on a soundstage.  And I think that works better for the heightened unreality of the film than if they'd gone on location.  It helps the film retain a bit of the feel of a stage production.

 

And I think Tichina Arnold, Michelle Weeks and Tisha Campbell never get enough credit as Crystal, Ronette and Chiffon.  They're the first characters we see, they sing the first song we hear, and if they don't sell the ever-loving shit out of it, the film is dead right there.  And they just knock it out of the park, and keep doing so throughout.

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Oh, yeah, those girls are great. Any thoughts on the ending? For me, as noted, it works because Seymour is played as a lot less mercenary in the film; when Orin is dying and pleading with him, he's just completely in shock, and it almost feels like he tries to subtly warn Mushnik to stop backing into Audrey II during the latter's death scene.

 

The ending also does have some ominous portents, such as the spores that fly out of Audrey II exploding and the final shot.

post #4 of 13

I love this film. I love it so much, when I was asked to sponsor a musical at the school I teach at, we went with LSoH. I had to play Mushnik when a kid dropped.

 

It is a bit more sweet, and in the end, you need Audrey destroyed. Enough credit can't be given to the Girls. They bring us in and take us through that story. I can honestly say... I don't like Audrey here. The actress isn't bad, but not what I imagined. The high pitched whine that sometimes accompanied her voice is what gets to me.  Other than that, love it!

post #5 of 13

My number one musical of all time. I'm dying for a super-duper edition. Perhaps with a bonus stage show production. Brilliantly casted. The music pops (there are lots of cues that remind me of future Disney tunes). It's got monsters, puppets, and it's hilarious. Up my Skid Row alley for sure.

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 I can honestly say... I don't like Audrey here. The actress isn't bad, but not what I imagined. The high pitched whine that sometimes accompanied her voice is what gets to me.  Other than that, love it!



Ellen Greene originated the role on-stage.  And her delighted squeak when she hears Seymour is naming the plant after her absolves her of any perceived wrong-doing.

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Yeah, Ellen Greene rules as Audrey I. I'm surprised she never did a lot more film work, though wasn't she on Pushing Daisies a while back?

post #8 of 13

My favourite musical too.  So, so good.  I don't think there will ever be anything quite like it again.

 

The dentist scene is a stand out, but I love the fact that Audrey goes from little girl squeek to absolutely belting voice in the "Suddenly Seymour" song.

 

In fact almost every song is fantastic.  Even thinking about "he's got your number now.." gives me chills.

post #9 of 13

You know, we were talking about the puppets and the practical sets -- how great is that giant mouth that turns up during "Dentist"?  Something absolutely not necessary to the plot or even the song, but it's just a great, unhinged effect.

post #10 of 13

I'm sure I've seen a behind the scenes pic of that, maybe from Eric Vespes column but I damned if I can find it now.

post #11 of 13

Perhaps one of my favorite songs in any movie. Martin looks like he was having a blast doing this sequence.

 

post #12 of 13

Lest we forget Mr Miller's fantastic article on this very scene:

 

http://www.chud.com/63857/chud-list-well-met-day-21-little-shop-of-horrors/

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-Additionally, Levi Stubbs is irreplaceable as the voice of Audrey II. There's so much energy and sneering villainy to his voice, and he belts out those songs like an absolute pro.

 

-Speaking of, that plant in its various forms is one of my favorite practical effects in all of film. It just looks, moves and feels so real. I know part of that effect for the largest puppets was that they sped up its movements by filming at half-speed, but I honestly can't tell. It moves so fast and fluidly, and there's no "giveaway" shots that the other actors are sped up as well. I often think the CGI backlash is incredibly overblown, but this creature could never, ever work in CGI the way it does here.

 

Watching the bits on youtube... Audrey 2 is so menacing alongside that seductive voice. There's so much weight there in that puppet and how he/she reacts with the environment and cast. And that gaping wet maw. Shit looks real. Between the voice, puppeteering, and construction of it. I'm truly amazed at the practical effect.

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