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post #151 of 207
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Diesel's got a bad public image?  Other than being a not so secret nerd, what's bad?

 

Edit: Not to say being a nerd is bad, but that's the most public thing I can remember about him.  It plays against the tough guy characters he portrays?  Which didn't affect Fast and Furious or Fast Five.

Maybe not "Bad" but on the other hand he's not as well known or followed in the Press as you would expect a movie star to be. But yeah I'd suggest the Nerd thing might be playing against the type of heroes he portrays.
 

 

post #152 of 207

Pretty sure Vin Diesel has a quite hilarious Facebook page on which he basically came across like a total ingenue. Maybe that's what you're thinking of?

post #153 of 207

(sigh). Nope, I think that Hollywood still has a "system" of sorts for "A List" stars, "B List" et al. And part of that is that the actor in question has to project a certain image, and be consistent. Like Tom Cruise and Will Smith being all "mom and Apple Pie". But then Cruise makes TWO errors in public pretty close together in time, and Boom! He's gone, at least for a few years.

 

Diesel just has not made good enough movies, or generated enough of a following, to justify making A List films or B Lists, again apart from Riddick.

 

Now, I think that's bullshit: Diesel is a pretty decent actor (added a lot with a small role to Boiler Room) and has the action chops, and I LIKE that he's a geek. I'm just speculating on why he hasn't busted out like Arnold, the target he is obviously going for.

post #154 of 207

A fantastic piece by Gavin Polone in Vulture calling the entire farce that is the modern Academy Awards into question in general...

 

 

 

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Polone on the Great Oscar Farce

As a kid I remember sitting in front of the TV with my family, like millions of others, in one of the largest non-sports audiences of the year, absorbing the drama and the gaudy clothing worn by beautiful people, and staying up past my bedtime to find out who won the big award: Miss America. But, over time, our changing values and the obvious irrelevance of the beauty pageant caused me and most Americans to dump the silly institution on the trash heap of cultural obsolescence. Soon, lying next to Miss America on that dump will be Oscar.

Whereas at one time Miss America represented the ideal for a woman in this country, the Academy Award may still be associated with the pinnacle in filmmaking achievement; but like Miss America, the Oscar has lost its relevance and value. Whether people realize it or not, it would be a benefit to the entertainment industry, as well as the moviegoing masses, if we just learned to ignore the Oscars.

As with that misogynistic competition, in which women’s bodies are dissected, judged, and then held up as a false ideal for the public, I can’t see the value in saying one artistic endeavor is better than another. This is also true of the Emmys, the Grammys, and the Tonys, as well as the various arts-related Pulitzers, of course, but the incredible attention lavished upon the Academy Awards demands it be singled out as a meaningless and misleading worst offender.

Instead of calling the ultimate award given at the Oscars “Best Picture,” they should really call it “the Favorite Picture of the Roughly 6,000 Academy Voters.” Given the makeup of this group — older, whiter, and more male than movie audiences, which are younger and more diverse than the American public — it would seem that contests between Forrest Gump and Pulp Fiction,The Departed and Little Miss SunshineThe Hurt Locker and Avatar, or The King’s Speech and The Social Network are all foregone conclusions. It explains why the year Driving Miss Daisy won for Best Picture, Do the Right Thingwasn’t even nominated. And it also suggests why genres preferred by younger audiences, such as comedies and animated movies, are rarely nominated and almost never win when they are. Can you really say that Borat didn’t deserve a nomination but Letters From Iwo Jima did? Beyond the fact that the older, white, rich liberals in the movie business will bring their own tastes to the Oscar ballot, human nature dictates voters will choose films that say something about how they see themselves: They want to be known as thoughtful, sensitive people who prefer less entertaining but more socially conscious films. Voting for a tedious movie about racism and injustice like Crash instead of meaning-free crowd pleasers like Wedding CrashersBatman Begins, or Mr. and Mrs. Smith mitigates the voters’ guilt about parking their SUVs in handicapped spots and being part of the one percent.

But the Oscars aren’t just corrupted by self-regard; they’re corrupted by money, which affects everything else, of course — which movies are made, who makes them, who stars in them, and how likely they are to succeed. The studios spend tens of millions of dollars each year on campaigns to get their candidates attention from the voters. The push for The Social Network reportedly cost between $7.5 million and $10 million, mostly spent on parties, screenings, consultants, ads in trade papers, billboards on the West Side of L.A., sending out DVDs. When you add up all of that spending on so many films, you could easily come up with a nine-figure sum. The cost of two Oscar campaigns could comfortably fund the total production budget for a movie like Drive orMidnight in Paris.

Studios not feeling the pinch of these extra expenditures could take more chances in their choices of what to make. The current binge of sequels and remakes is largely fueled by fear, since there is a perception that offering content with an established brand carries less risk. If the studios bolstered their bottom line by reducing Oscar-related spending, they wouldn’t feel as great a need to make less risky but egregiously derivative product. It takes only a small number of outstanding and original movies to get people out of the “there is nothing worth seeing” malaise that has been reflected in an overall drop in ticket sales during the past year, which was dominated by films whose titles end with a number. And which largely suck.

Even more damaging than the effect on budgets might be the effect on the movie calendar. Any film thought to have a shot at an award has to be released in the late fall or early winter, meaning that almost every film released between January and September is pretty much out of the running. (I wonder if the fine film from 2010 Get Low would have earned nominations for Robert Duvall or Bill Murray, or even one for Best Picture, had it been released November 26 instead of July 30?) Distributors select the films they think can garner awards and release them during the last quarter of the year all at once, meaning that the holiday season is hugely overserved by prestige projects and all other seasons woefully undersupplied. As a result, the Oscars damage the prospects of the very movies they’re designed to promote. If there were no Academy Awards, there would probably be a more even release of quality films throughout the year, making it more likely that additional people would see those films, since most moviegoers don’t schedule their year to make room for increased movie attendance in November and December. Instead, it’s a battle royale for ticket buyers, and too many movies lose out.

Many in Hollywood would say that the financial reward of Oscars success makes the cost and loss of dignity worthwhile, but the facts indicate otherwise. A detailed statistical analysis of the Oscars’ box-office effect by Boxofficequant.com showed that almost all of the ticket money flowed in after the nomination, not the win. But this is also misleading, since it is difficult to know how a film that was nominated would have performed had it not received a nomination. True Grit, for example grossed 18.5 percent of its total after being nominated, but The Social Network took in only 1.5 percent of its total after its nomination. The difference between the two is obvious: release dates.The Social Network came out October 1, while True Grit was released at the end of December, so the latter was in the middle of its strong theatrical run, the former at its end.

Of course, some people do benefit from the Oscars, aside from publicists, the trade press, the New York and Los Angeles Times (have you ever seen any kind of anti-Oscars article in those publications?), and Los Angeles billboard owners: the individuals who win. Directors, screenwriters, actors, editors, and anyone else with a nomination or a win gets a big bump in pay after being so honored — as much as $5 million, it’s said, for a Best Actor trophy. Unfortunately for the payer of this Oscar bonus, there is no correlation between anyone’s winning an award and future box-office success, despite the big deal made about Oscars in marketing campaigns. PopEater’s Jo Piazza showed that of the top 100 highest-grossing films of 2010, 40 percent of the top twenty featured Oscar winners, while 50 percent of the bottom twenty did. If possessing a statuette was actually worth something, shouldn’t there be some direct correlation between casting an Academy Award winner and higher box office? If you were financing a drama that starred a man in his mid-­forties, would you feel more comfortable with your investment by offering the part to Sean Penn or Kevin Spacey, each with two Oscar wins, or to Will Smith or Johnny Depp, neither of whom has won?

I will acknowledge that the Academy funds some good work in the area of film education (though I could also mention that the Miss America Pageant gives out $45 million a year in scholarships). And I am only knocking the Oscars because they are the most prominent film awards; the Golden Globes are a whole other level of ridiculousness, and I would encourage those interested to watch Vikram Jayanti’s documentary The Golden Globes: Hollywood’s Dirty Little Secret, which is both entertaining and illuminating (one actress comments in the film that the Globes are really a contest for who “kisses butt best”). Really, I see no point to any of it, other than the kitschy fun of the spectacle, which, as with the Miss America Pageant, certainly can be entertaining in limited doses. But by the third speech of someone thanking his spouse, agent, manager, psychic, dog walker, and the person who clears his chakras, I am always bored and left wondering why he couldn’t just have a private conversation with the person to whom he wishes to express his gratitude, and then find something more interesting or entertaining to talk about on television.

Fortunately, the public seems finally to be losing interest. The Oscar broadcast has evidenced a pretty steady decline in audience share since the mid-seventies. Last year, obviously feeling the need to bring in a younger viewership, the Academy hired James Franco and Anne Hathaway as hosts. The plan didn’t work; there was a 12 percent drop in the 18-to-49 demographic and a 9 percent decrease in overall viewers. Clearly, this is because the audience feels alienated from the choices of nominations and winners, not how they are presented. As with any cultural institution, when the interest and support of the young are lost, it is just a question of when, not if, that institution becomes fully irrelevant. I can’t wait.  

Gavin Polone is an agent turned manager turned producer; follow him on Twitter @gavinpolone.

 

post #155 of 207

Yeah, but what are ya gonna do? shrug

post #156 of 207

Stop watching?

 

It'd feel less like it was a farce if it wasn't turned into some huge televised event as if it mattered that much to tens of millions of people.  I don't recall the HPA awards show being televised.

post #157 of 207
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Diesel's got a bad public image?  Other than being a not so secret nerd, what's bad?

 

Edit: Not to say being a nerd is bad, but that's the most public thing I can remember about him.  It plays against the tough guy characters he portrays?  Which didn't affect Fast and Furious or Fast Five.



There's nothing bad out there about him.  His problem is that he has the charisma of a black hole.  Not even that cool black hole from Star Trek that sucked up Eric Bana.  Just a plain 'ol black hole.  Aside from a frog in his throat, there's nothing remotely special about him.



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Yeah, but what are ya gonna do? shrug


Pray that someone trips and falls onstage.  With the trains on those dresses getting longer by the year, it's only a matter of time before someone straight-up faceplants and gets gif.ed for all to see.

 

post #158 of 207

I still say Diesel gave a great performance as the titular Iron Giant. Aided by the electronic modification they did to his voice, obviously, but the acting work is still there, methinks.

post #159 of 207

If only they had an Oscar Category for Best Voice Actor.

post #160 of 207

Vin Diesel just strikes me as a guy who was a certain type of picky, one that made him panic and pick some dubious projects at one point, and then skip over some potentially lucrative ones at another. It's super difficult to manage a leading man career, strategy-wise, I would imagine.

post #161 of 207

Just saw "Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close" today and this is not middle of the road Oscar Bait like "Crash" or "Babel" or even "American Beauty".   Those can be recognized as movies made competently with recognizable craft.   The movie "Extremely Loud" resembles are those amazing big budget train wreck movies where you totally disengage and start laughing uncontrollably at what's going on at the screen.   Let me count the ways....

 

1.   There are at least 4 scenes of Tom Hanks falling from the Twin Towers.  

2.   The lead made me reconsider my policy on not punching children.

3.    Tom Hanks plays literally one of the least realistic dads in movies.   Ever.

4.    The kid says things like "Can I kiss you?" to perfect strangers on a regular basis.

5.    Max Von Sedow is awesome enough to make this worth watching for a stretch.   And then he leaves.

6.   Easily, easily Tom Hanks' worst movie.

7.   Easily Sandra Bullock's worst movie.

 

Can't wait til the eventual Youtube compilation to come out.   It's "Wicker Man" remake bad.

post #162 of 207

 

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7.   Easily Sandra Bullock's worst movie.

 



Worse than Miss Congeniality 2? Because that's some stinky shit right there.

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It's "Wicker Man" remake bad


Ticket sold!

post #164 of 207
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Worse than Miss Congeniality 2? Because that's some stinky shit right there.



At least that movie feels like a movie and is constructed like one.   She tries her very best but this is such a bad bad movie with amazingly bad acting.   She never stood a chance.   It's like the movie was written by aliens.   Wait til it comes out on video and you'll be amazed at how bad this movie is.   Easily the worst movie of 2011.

post #165 of 207
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Ticket sold!



There's a scene where the boy leaves the house and he stops as he closes the door and bends down to the floor.   Sandra Bullock starts crying (AGAIN!) and does the same thing.   The boy then says "I love you" and she starts sobbing uncontrollably.   That's when I checked out and started laughing out loud.    It was just too much.   The kid keeps calling 9/11 "The Worst Day" over and over and people just cry from start to finish.     This movie is awash in tears because this is a movie about 9/11.   At one point Alfre Woodard cries for who the fuck knows why?   You guys have no idea.

post #166 of 207
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Can't wait til the eventual Youtube compilation to come out.   It's "Wicker Man" remake bad.



Shit don't tell me that....

post #167 of 207
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1.   There are at least 4 scenes of Tom Hanks falling from the Twin Towers.  

 

WHOA WHOA WHOA. 

 

I figured he'd die offscreen when the Towers fell or something.  THEY SHOW HIM FUCKING FALLING?! 

 

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.  Truly.  I'm simultaneously amused and appalled.
 

 

post #168 of 207
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   It's "Wicker Man" remake bad.


And with that, I found a future beer and pizza night candidate.
 

 

post #169 of 207
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 At one point Alfre Woodard cries for who the fuck knows why?   You guys have no idea.

Oh, come on, that's Viola Davis! Respect, people.

 

Even in underwritten roles, her and Jeffrey Wright are good enough to keep this from being the year's worst. But I get the hate. I really get the hate.

 


 

 

post #170 of 207
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WHOA WHOA WHOA. 

 

I figured he'd die offscreen when the Towers fell or something.  THEY SHOW HIM FUCKING FALLING?! 

 

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.  Truly.  I'm simultaneously amused and appalled.
 

 

Do they show Hanks swan diving into oblivion with a beatific smile on his face? Or is he windmilling his arms screaming " GET ME OUTTA HERE!!!"


Edited by Cylon Baby - 1/26/12 at 8:10pm
post #171 of 207
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WHOA WHOA WHOA. 

 

I figured he'd die offscreen when the Towers fell or something.  THEY SHOW HIM FUCKING FALLING?! 

 

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.  Truly.  I'm simultaneously amused and appalled.
 

 


Well it's done "tastefully" in a surreal fashion.   Literally the first shot is a blue sky with super closeups of a spinning body (you only see the arms, then it spins to the feet).   Very artistic but it's there.   Then there's a dream sequence where there's a body falling out of focus where we see Tom Hanks' face coming towards the camera right before the boy wakes up and the two other "artistic" recreations of him falling to his death.   Oh and then the phone messages!   If you gave me a choice between watching this movie again or Human Centipede 2 again, I would pick the latter every time.

 

post #172 of 207
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Do they show Hanks swan diving into oblivion with a beatific smile on his dace? Or is he windmilling his arms screaming " GET ME OUTTA HERE!!!"



Unfortunately not although a shot of Hanks falling to his death while on a cell phone saying  "I LOOOOOOOVE YOUUUUUUUU!   ARGHHHHH I'M BURNING!" wouldn't have felt out of place.    This is turned up to 11 Grief Porn.

post #173 of 207

Ironically the book is actually pretty good. Foer was an "it" novelist for a while there, and particularly before Extremely Loud was published, but he's not just a fad -- there's quality in his work. Some of it is truly heartbreaking. It's weird that the book got transformed into this lumbering, treacly Hollywood thing with Tom Hanks, since it could've been very tasteful and moving if adapted with a little more restraint and a more low-key sensibility. But whatever.

post #174 of 207
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Ironically the book is actually pretty good. Foer was an "it" novelist for a while there, and particularly before Extremely Loud was published, but he's not just a fad -- there's quality in his work. Some of it is truly heartbreaking. It's weird that the book got transformed into this lumbering, treacly Hollywood thing with Tom Hanks, since it could've been very tasteful and moving if adapted with a little more restraint and a more low-key sensibility. But whatever.



It's weird but even watching the movie, you get the sense that it could have been something special in someone else's hands.   I'm thinking Gus Van Sandt or even Steven Soderbergh could have found the right tone for something like this to work.   It just feels like really delicate material that was treated very indelicately.   Also the fact that it's a movie about 9/11 adds a ton of baggage to it.

post #175 of 207
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It's weird but even watching the movie, you get the sense that it could have been something special in someone else's hands.   I'm thinking Gus Van Sandt or even Steven Soderbergh could have found the right tone for something like this to work.   It just feels like really delicate material that was treated very indelicately.   Also the fact that it's a movie about 9/11 adds a ton of baggage to it.



Haven't read the book or seen the movie, but one review of the film did point out how a "literary" voice that the reader creates in their own head can be much more effective than an actual flesh and blood child actor reading the same lines.

post #176 of 207

The kid DEFINITELY is spouting out lines that sound like wordy prose. I understand during casting they saw him, a non-actor, on an episode of Jeopardy. A movie-killing casting choice.

post #177 of 207

Yeah, part of the problem is definitely that neither of Foer's two books are easily translatable to film. For one, they're fairly experimental, and he ducks in and out of a lot of different historical periods and character voices in a way a movie can't mimic. Even Extremely Loud has a pretty effective subplot taking place half a century earlier involving the grandfather, which I imagine was cut. And two, which is closer to what you guys are saying, is that they flaunt their own brand of quirk -- sometimes insufferable, sometimes endearing -- that just comes across as fucking stupid when you actually see it happening in front of you on a screen.

post #178 of 207
Wow. I haven't seen it, but it appears that this movie makes WORLD TRADE CENTRE look like UNITED 93.
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I also wanted to give The Help a little bit of regard. It wouldn't make my top twenty of the year for sure, but it works pretty damn well for the target audience, and in the 90s, I think a crowd pleaser like this would be the prohibitive front runner. I totally get why it's there.


Agreed.  It doesn't belong in the Best Picture category, but it's no Crash either.  The Help is a lot better than most seem to think it is.  Hell, I had no intention of watching it until I was at my father's one evening and he popped it in.

 



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And with that, I found a future beer and pizza night candidate.
 

 


You and me both!

post #180 of 207

The Help makes me hate white people....EVEN MORE!

post #181 of 207

I would take Extremely Loud (barely) over The Help, since half of the runtime isn't devoted to a PIE MADE OF FECES.

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I'm just speculating on why he hasn't busted out like Arnold, the target he is obviously going for.


I don't think Diesel busted out like Arnold because the landscape of the market has drastically changed since the 80's/90's. Not to mention that Vin seemed to make it a point by not sticking to the conventional action-oriented roles (a la Statham) until his career seemingly started to tumble.

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I don't think Diesel busted out like Arnold because the landscape of the market has drastically changed since the 80's/90's. 



Exactly. See Johnson, Dwayne.

 

That man should be massive enough to be opening his own fucking theme parks and celebrity restaurant chains by now.

post #184 of 207

Well, Dwayne seems to be chugging along quite nicely, alternating between action stuff like Fast Five or Faster and, well, children's films.

post #185 of 207

Right now, Fast Five is the exception.  For a while, the only movies of his that did well were the kids movies.  Fast Five is hopefully the turning of the tide.  I'm looking forward to GI JOE 2 mostly because of him.  Then there'll be the other movies in the Fast series.

post #186 of 207

And his Hobbes spin-off hopefully.

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Well, Dwayne seems to be chugging along quite nicely, alternating between action stuff like Fast Five or Faster and, well, children's films.



I liken Dwayne Johnson to a dog sitting by a dinner table waiting for scraps to fall off.  He has it in him to sit at that fucking table, but his shitty film choices combined with a strong segment of the audience who sees him as "that wrestler guy" and nothing more has reduced him to being that little yappy Pomeranian bitch by the table.  He can't get his own franchise, so he hops on board established ones and hides in the background.  Then, he hops on his Twitter page to crow when the movie makes money, when in fact the name brand brought in that cash, not him. 

 

Yeah, I'm a disgruntled fan.  Fast Five was fun, but overall, I am so fucking disappointed in him.

post #188 of 207
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I did not see Transformers, but in theory I agree that if it had the best FX, it should be awarded no matter how shitty it was. The thing that makes the Oscars suspect more than anything else is the suggestion that SOMEHOW, ALL the best shit - costuming, sound design, makeup, acting, all of it - happened to occur within the same 15 movies. Standout things in bad movies should be fair game (e.g., Kurt Russell should have been nominated for Dark Blue, a not-good movie).

This HAS happened before. Morgan Freeman got nominated for STREET SMART, a really shitty movie.
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I would take Extremely Loud (barely) over The Help, since half of the runtime isn't devoted to a PIE MADE OF FECES.



I don't understand, isn't that a point in it's favor? You think you're going to watch 2.5 hours of Emma Stone saving black people, but then you get this all this weird John Waters stuff about Bryce Dallas Howard getting tricked into eating shit and everyone making fun of her about it. Plus, that was the aforementioned target audience's favorite part.

post #190 of 207

Bryce Dallas Howard was such a terrible cartoon in that movie.

post #191 of 207

I know this meme is old and stale. Still...as far as I'm concerned, this use of it is inspired enough to justify going back to that well.

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I would take Extremely Loud (barely) over The Help, since half of the runtime isn't devoted to a PIE MADE OF FECES.



I didn't actually mind that.   Bryce Dallas Howard's character was such a cartoonish villain at that point, that the audience wanted an over the top comeuppance.   I found it much preferable to some lame speech a character usually gives (although I think that's in there too).     I thought it was funny but I'm a sucker for these kind of melodramas.

 

"Extremely Loud" by contrast IS a cinematic pie made of feces.

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I didn't actually mind [the pie made of shit.]


 

 

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The reason I thought it was funny or at least acceptable is that that it plays into the wish fulfillment/revenge fantasy these melodramas tread in.   It's far milder than what happens in that other chick flick classic, "Fried Green Tomatoes".   Anyway, that's the most I will defend shit pies in movies.....

 

Back to the Oscar race....

 

So I just watched Albert Nobbs and while Glenn Close does a commendable job in her role, it's not Oscar worthy in the slightest,   The movie is rather boring and slight and feels strangely asexual.   To be honest, the movie is horseshit but it does show how if you ugly yourself up or dress up as a man, your ass will be nominated for an Oscar regardless if the performance or movie is any good.    I would have much rather seen Charlize Theron get Close's spot for her performance in Young Adult.   Now THAT was an Oscar worthy performance.   Same goes for Patton Oswalt.

post #195 of 207

Young Adult's complete shutout angers me the more I think about it. It's a career best performance for Theron, a breakthrough for Oswalt, and a major turning point for Cody. 

post #196 of 207

For some reason, I thought Reitman had been nominated for Best Director for the film (likely due to him being a part of that Hollywood Reporter Director's Roundtable video).  Man, if that had been true and Reitman was the only thing the movie was recognized for... I'd be actually be pissed.  It being completely shut out feels more acceptable to me.  Still, it's ridiculous that it was shut out.

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When "The Departed" was nominated for and won best picture in 2006, I was excited, because I thought it signaled a turning point for the Academy. I thought it was a sign that they might actually be willing to start nominating movies with a considerable amount of violence, profanity, and/or sexuality, as long as the movie was high quality, instead of always going for the bland, 'feel good', safe choices they usually spring for.

 

Apparently that didn't last long. Maybe they just made an exception because they really wanted to give Scorsese the consolation Oscars they owed him after not giving best picture to "Taxi Driver", "Raging Bull", or "Goodfellas" (because of profanity, violence, and sex more than anything, I'd wager). I haven't seen "Young Adult", but from what I've heard, it sounds like another movie that they balked at mostly because it's just not as 'nice' as picks like "The Artist" and (ironically, considering its director), "Hugo".

 

More than any other year in recent memory, I think this year has reaffirmed what prudish and out-of-it cowards the Academy are. I know their typical out-of-touch wussiness is why my three favourite movies of last year weren't considered - "Attack the Block", "Drive", and "Warrior". Okay, I know "Attack the Block" was too gritty and low profile to ever be on their radar, but dammit, it's a masterpiece as far as I'm concerned. They could have at least thrown some technical nominations its way out of respect.

 

At least Nick Nolte got a nomination. I wish Albert Brooks had too, though, even if I didn't think his performance was that great. It was fun to watch mostly for the novelty of seeing him playing so against his usual screen persona. Still, many Academy nominations are given more out of respect for the artist's body of work rather than the individual piece of work itself, and he deserves that sort of 'cumulative' nomination as much as anyone else. 

post #198 of 207

I don't think it was grittiness or a low profile that kept Attack the Block from nominations so much as it was the whole 'action comedy about gremlins from outer space' thing.

post #199 of 207

Pfft, doesn't make them any less snobby. No subject matter or genre should be considered too 'low' for consideration.

post #200 of 207

ATTACK THE BLOCK is amazing, AMAZING stuff, but it being nominated for Oscars would just be bizarre. Who/what do you nominate?

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