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I'm sure his wife was happy not having to listen to her husband speak nothing but Elvish around the house for three years.
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After a string of expensive non-starters, Warner Brothers plays a game of chance with the Superman franchise in 2000. They make the bold move of commissioning acclaimed screenwriter/director Frank Darabont (of The Shawshank Redemption and coming off the success of The Green Mile), a virgin to the sensibilities of blockbuster filmmaking, to revive the iconic superhero with Superman: The Man of Steel.
For influence, Darabont and writing-partner Chuck Russell (also serving as sole producer) rely heavily on the popular mid-80s John Byrne comic-run and go as far to seek consultation from Christopher Reeve and artist Alex Ross. So high on the project is the studio that they kill a "Young Clark Kent" pilot script set up at their sister network The WB and they agree to protect Darabont from interference from producer Jon Peters whose Wild Wild West disaster from 1999 cost them dearly. They also make the bold, and in some circles suicidal, strategic move to slot Superman to open the 2002 summer film season in the first weekend of May, despite fear of George Lucas' untitled second Star Wars prequel.
After a string of auditions and screen-tests, an unknown theater-teacher-turned-working class actor Jon Hamm is cast in the title role as Superman/Clark Kent and actress Elizabeth Banks secures the part of Lois Lane, after her turn in Wet Hot American Summer made her the favorite for director Darabont and producer Russell.
Following in the tradition of Richard Donner's Superman the Movie twenty years prior, the filmmakers pull a coup and pay top dollar for Anthony Hopkins to play Superman's doomed father Jor-El and Daniel Day-Lewis as his arch-nemesis, multi-billionaire Lex Luthor. Rounding out the cast is a slew of established name-actors including Kurt Russell and Sissy Spacek as Jonathan and Martha Kent, Bruce McGill as Daily Planet chief Perry White and Topher Grace as Jimmy Olsen.
In a climate following the events of 9/11, the world needs a hero and one who stands for truth, justice and the American way. When the teaser trailer appears in front of Harry Potter & the Sorcerer's Stone, audiences cheer and when Superman: The Man of Steel opens on May 3, 2002 it earns strong reviews and becomes the first film to break the $100 million barrier in its 3-day opening weekend and goes on to gross just over $400 million and paves the way for superheroes as a legitimate genre.
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When the teaser trailer appears in front of Harry Potter & the Sorcerer's Stone, audiences cheer and when Superman: The Man of Steel opens on May 3, 2002 it earns strong reviews and becomes the first film to break the $100 million barrier in its 3-day opening weekend and goes on to gross just over $400 million and paves the way for superheroes as a legitimate genre.
A feat matched a few weeks later when the Ridley Scott-directed Star Wars Episode II: The Clones Attack opens, continuing the adventures of Obi-Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker that began three years previously in Steven Spielberg's Star Wars Episode I: A New Menace.
Darabont didn't have long to mourn the passing of his box office record -- on the strength of Superman's success, George Lucas offers him the writing and directing responsibilities on Star Wars Episode III: Fall of the Republic.
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This really should be retitled "The Daniel Day Lewis Makes Everything Better Thread."
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Alright: Ebert died in '99 instead of Siskel. Go.
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Pure conjecture, but I'm willing to bet Siskel would have ended the show full stop right after Ebert's funeral.
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Siskel would have replaced Ebert with Daniel Day Lewis.
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With Darabont committed to capping off the Star Wars trilogy, his writing/producing partner Chuck Russell takes over directing duties, Warner Brothers locks down a July 1, 2005 release and Oscar-winning star Russell Crowe is hired to play Brainiac. Although before leaving for a galaxy far, far away, the two bang out a treatment for Superman: The Last Son of Krypton.
Its success leads to even more money and clout for producer Jon Peters, despite the fact that he had little-to-no involvement in either productions ("Those were absolutely Frank and Chuck's babies and Peters stepped foot on both sets four days, if that!" many insiders explained). With cash in his pockets, Peters goes about to acquire a property even bigger than the Man of Steel himself: Transformers.
After several short-lived iterations from the likes of Sylvester Stallone, Tim Burton and Paul Thomas Anderson, Peters decides to make the live-action Transformers film his directorial debut. Culled together from his ideas for Superman, Batman and Wild Wild West, the budget to the epic (with a cast including Dakota Fanning, Dennis Hopper and Arnold Schwarzenegger as Optimus Prime) blows up to an astronomical $300 million and upon its release in the summer of 2007 is a commercial turkey and savaged by critics including the now-infamous quip in Roger Ebert’s review, “I have never in my years of reviewing movies ever been reduced to saying an obscenity to express my anger. But Transformers is the single stupidest, fucking movie I have ever had to sit through.”
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I don't know if I could trade Mad Men for that Superman. But I might.
I might.
Here's your next one:
Francis Ford Coppola is in the middle of production on The Godfather, Part III, when Winona Ryder, slated to play Michael Corleone's daughter, checks into a hospital for exhaustion. Rather than recast, Coppola summons the last bit of juice and fire he's got with the studio to demand they suspend production until she can recover. The studio agrees. Bolstered by this victory, Coppola shows some footage to Robert Duvall -- who realizes he really misses Tom Hagen and working with and agrees to take a reduced paycheck and billing for a part in the film. Coppola and Puzo now have to rewrite their film to match their original intent...
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Francis Ford Coppola is in the middle of production on The Godfather, Part III, when Winona Ryder, slated to play Michael Corleone's daughter, checks into a hospital for exhaustion. Rather than recast, Coppola summons the last bit of juice and fire he's got with the studio to demand they suspend production until she can recover. The studio agrees. Bolstered by this victory, Coppola shows some footage to Robert Duvall -- who realizes he really misses Tom Hagen and working with and agrees to take a reduced paycheck and billing for a part in the film. Coppola and Puzo now have to rewrite their film to match their original intent...
Due to the scrutiny behind the production woes, all press is centered on it (among the big studio releases) leading up to its release. The Godfather Part III, wildly over-budget thanks to the suspension of the original round of filming, expansive rewrites and price-tags of its stars (including the last second addition of Duvall), finally opens on Christmas Day 1991. And while it is a hit all things considered, it loses in the box-office race against The Property of the Lady (the third and as it turned out final James Bond adventure starring Timothy Dalton), Hook and Father of the Bride.
It receives glowing reviews and deemed a fitting conclusion, with many pointing to Duvall's performance as Tom Hagen, now bitter against Michael wanting nothing but to bring him down. At the following year's Academy Awards ceremony, it is overshadowed by The Silence of the Lambs sweep and JFK going home empty-handed...with the sole exception of Duvall's "Best Supporting Actor" win.
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Ledger goes onto star in Inception and plays Chon in Savages.
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For some reason I always imagined it would have been Ledger, and not Christian Bale, to be John Connor in Terminator: Salvation.
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I think the most tragic thing about this would be that we'd never get Hamill's performance as The Joker in "Batman: The Animated Series"...which I guess would mean the original choice of Tim Curry would do it? I like Tim Curry well enough, but I can't imagine him nailing the role the way Hamill did, to the point where he's as beloved for it as he is for any major movie role he's done, and to this day is still voicing the character in video games. I think he may have still been re-cast too, although I don't know who would make a good replacement for him.
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I know someone else can run with this one better than I can...
George Lucas directs Apocalypse Now. The shoot is plagued by problems, going insanely over budget, and Lucas almost dies of exhaustion during the production. The film is released, and it is a critical and commercial flop, although the helicopter attack is still one for the books. Lucas retires from filmmaking.
There is no Star Wars.
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I know someone else can run with this one better than I can...
George Lucas directs Apocalypse Now. The shoot is plagued by problems, going insanely over budget, and Lucas almost dies of exhaustion during the production. The film is released, and it is a critical and commercial flop, although the helicopter attack is still one for the books. Lucas retires from filmmaking.
There is no Star Wars.
And most likely no Raiders. And so...
Steve Spielberg, smarting from the critical and box office disappointment of 1941, decides to take on an idea he came up with after shooting Close Encounters of the Third Kind, this time a darker take on the alien genre called Night Skies. In the film, Craig T. Nelson and JoBeth Williams play the parents of a family terrorized by a group of hostile aliens on their farm in the rural Midwest. Make-up artist Rick Baker provides the creature effects, and Spielberg, on a relatively tight leash after the 1941 disaster, turns out a lean, visceral film that comes in ahead of schedule and under budget. Released in the summer of 1981, Night Skies proves a surprise hit, finishing second to Richard Donner's follow-up Superman II in the year-end box office, and garnering rave reviews, most of which liken to film to "Jaws with aliens." Baker wins an Oscar for his effects work, and Jerry Goldsmith is nominated for his score, but aside from a few other technical nods, the film is overlooked by the Academy. Still, Night Skies is seen as a sort of redemption for Spielberg, a return of both his storytelling and box office prowess. This pays off in the realization of a childhood dream -- Spielberg is offered the chance to direct the 13th James Bond film, The Property of a Lady, the first starring new Bond Pierce Brosnan.
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Pulp Fiction fails. The biggest gripe people have is they got lost. They wanted something linear.
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I got two for everyone to play out:
1. After Cubby Broccoli and Harry Saltzman have a sit-down to "talk some sense into that boy's head," George Lazenby agrees to return as James Bond in Diamonds Are Forever under Guy Hamilton's direction.
2. After taking six months off to enjoy its massive success, Richard Donner and Tom Mankiewicz make their peace with the Salkinds and agree to return and finish Superman II, now pushed back for a June 1981 release.
Go...
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David Lynch agrees to direct "Return of the Jedi." The end result is a hugely satisfying trilogy capper that exceeds even "The Empire Strikes Back." Critics and fans are shocked by the death of Han Solo, but ultimately thrilled by the climactic battle on Chewbacca's homeworld. Rumors in "Starlog" that Lucas had originally envisioned Imperial Stormtroopers being thwarted by cuddly, teddy bear-like creatures are shrugged off by the fanbase.
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"Rose, do you like John Philip Sousa? His early work was a little too nouveau Romantique for my taste, but when 'Semper Fidelis' came out in '88, I think he really came into his own, both commercially and artistically. The whole composition has a crisp, clear sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the march a big boost. He's been compared to Kenneth J. Alford, but I think Johnny has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor. In '96, JP released this, "The Liberty Bell", his most accomplished composition to date. I think his undisputed masterpiece is "Stars and Stripes Forever", a song so catchy, most people probably don't listen to the lyrics, but they should! Because it's not just about the pleasures of conformity, and the importance of patriotism, but a personal statement about the man himself."
Not to derail, but this is probably my most repped post ever, and I just want to say how much I love, love, love that this is a place where elaborate John Philip Sousa jokes can land.
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What if Bruce Lee had not had a fatal brain hemorrhage at 32?
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Chuck Norris would be mopping floors at Whataburger and complaining bitterly about those endless "Why is Bruce Lee so hard?" memes.
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also:
-Quentin Tarantino movies would probably be different
-Bruce (who was let's face it, the grandaddy of mixed martial artists) just by being alive would have ensured that "MMA" entered the mainstream much sooner... with no annoying subculture attached, no douchebags with Tapout shirts etc
-Jackie Chan would be a bitter unknown sifu at Peking Opera School. No Rush Hour, no hit movie for Brett Ratner
-Eventually Bruce would have grown tired with movies and gone into politics, first as Governor (D-CA), then President. After a couple of diplomatic meetings, China would be like "just give us a few boxes of Marlboro and we'll call it square"
-Bruce would have stuck by his old movie industry pals the whole time though, and with his help and support many of them would have become household names in the US thus altering our entire pop culture landscape
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Robert Rodriguez retaining directors credit on Sin City, allowing him to move forward with John Carter of Mars, which opens to positive-ish reviews. It does however, pave the way for a new wave of adult fantasy, among them James Cameron's Heavy Metal, At The Mountains Of Madness, Fincher's The Goon, and Bad Robot's Samurai Jack. Andrew Stanton does something amazing, and life is perfect.
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For his last movie Bruce Lee wants to star oppisite his Japanese counter part. Sonny Chiba.
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Bruce Lee and Sonny Chiba in Face/Off
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Fuck, that would've been great.
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Brynn Hartman is arrested for drug charges in early 1998. Phil Hartman continues to do stellar voice work and supporting comedic roles until the year 2002, he lands the coveted role of Bob Harris in Sofia Coppola's Lost in Translation. The film opens to rave reviews the following year and Hartman is critically acclaimed for his dramatic and nuanced role without ever losing the humor of the character. Phil Hartman goes on to win Best Actor and starts a new career playing a wide variety of dramatic and comedic roles including a live-action Troy McClure movie directed by Wes Anderson and co-written by Phil Hartman himself. Phil Hartman also continues to do voice work among them Zapp Brannigan in Futurama. Phil Hartman wins a Tony Award for his starring role as Max Bialystock in a Browadway revival of The Producers. His acclaimed stage work leads to being cast in Jason Reitman's Up in the Air as Ryan Bingham. He loses Best Actor to Jeff Bridges but in turn is cast in Alexander Payne's The Descendants as Matt King. Phil Hartman wins his second Best Actor Oscar. Hartman goes down in history as the SNL alum with the most successful career right next to Bill Murray.
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Brynn Hartman is arrested for drug charges in early 1998. Phil Hartman continues to do stellar voice work and supporting comedic roles until the year 2002, he lands the coveted role of Bob Harris in Sofia Coppola's Lost in Translation. The film opens to rave reviews the following year and Hartman is critically acclaimed for his dramatic and nuanced role without ever losing the humor of the character. Phil Hartman goes on to win Best Actor and starts a new career playing a wide variety of dramatic and comedic roles including a live-action Troy McClure movie directed by Wes Anderson and co-written by Phil Hartman himself. Phil Hartman also continues to do voice work among them Zapp Brannigan in Futurama. Phil Hartman wins a Tony Award for his starring role as Max Bialystock in a Browadway revival of The Producers. His acclaimed stage work leads to being cast in Jason Reitman's Up in the Air as Ryan Bingham. He loses Best Actor to Jeff Bridges but in turn is cast in Alexander Payne's The Descendants as Matt King. Phil Hartman wins his second Best Actor Oscar. Hartman goes down in history as the SNL alum with the most successful career right next to Bill Murray.
This is clearly the best timeline.
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After a near-fatal overdose, John Belushi goes into rehab and cleans himself up. Now sober, he takes the role of Dr. Peter Venkman in "Ghostbusters," a critical and commercial hit, one that puts Belushi's film career back on track.
After a near-fatal overdose, Chris Farley goes into rehab and cleans himself up. Now sober, he completes his voiceover duties as the lead character in "Shrek," a critical and commercial hit, one that puts Farley's film career back on track.
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After a near-fatal overdose, John Belushi goes into rehab and cleans himself up. Now sober, he takes the role of Dr. Peter Venkman in "Ghostbusters," a critical and commercial hit, one that puts Belushi's film career back on track.
After a near-fatal overdose, Chris Farley goes into rehab and cleans himself up. Now sober, he completes his voiceover duties as the lead character in "Shrek," a critical and commercial hit, one that puts Farley's film career back on track.
Chris Farley also gets a enough production backing to play Fatty Arbuckle in a biopic which is directed by PT Anderson and is shot right after Punch Drunk Love with Adam Sandler. This leads to Farley's first Oscar nomination.
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After a near-fatal overdose in a hotel, Chris Farley checks into rehab for good this time, getting himself clean. However, his much-reported drug and alcohol problems means he can't get bonded. Wanting desperately to prove himself more than "fatty fall down," he convinces Lorne Michaels to pay the bond for the Fatty Arbuckle movie, written and directed by David Mamet. While the film has a strong opening weekend and is met with near-universal critical acclaim (writing for the New York Times, A.O. Scott writes "while it's easy to see art and life imitating one another here, Farley's turn is one of the most impressive by a Saturday Night Live alum," and Roger Ebert notes that "Farley has spoken of his desire to prove he can be serious, like Gleason did in The Hustler. He surpasses him here."). Good word-of-mouth and a series of hilarious late-night appearances -- including a triumphant return to Saturday Night Live -- buoy Farley towards the Oscars, where he's nominated for Best Actor. At the Kodak Theater, he rules the night -- first when he reunites with Tommy Boy costar David Spade to present the award for Best Animated/Live Action Short, and later when he bear-hugs Tom Hanks upon losing to Hanks' compelling turn as Lester Burnham in "American Beauty"*.
Farley relaxes for the remainder of 2000 and the first half of 2001, buying a house in Chicago and starting a family. He also starts the Farley Foundation, co-run by his brothers and dedicated to bringing improv, comedy, and healthy habits to "at risk" youth. Wanting to be a good example for the kids he thinks of as his own, he starts taking up hobbies like jogging, woodworking, and becomes a voracious reader of non-fiction, history, and politics. In the best shape of his life, he's back in the spotlight in 2001 when Dreamworks releases "Shrek." The film features fewer pop culture references, and trades an antic nature for something more gentle. It is a huge success that establishes Dreamworks as a real challenger to Pixar. Emboldened by his work with the Farley Foundation, Farley quietly campaigns for voice actors to be given the same consideration as live-action actors -- a campaign that's successful when the Academy establishes "Best Performance by An Actor in an Animated Role"**. But Farley's campaigning is seen as shrewd and manipulative by some, and he loses the first ever Oscar to Billy Crystal for "Monsters, Inc."
The next decade is a profitable, rewarding one for Farley -- roles in the other Shrek movies, an Emmy for a return appearance to Saturday Night Live, a Tony nomination for Toby in "Sweeney Todd"*** and a win for a revival of "Fiorello!", finally an Oscar for playing a father whose daughter is dying of cancer in the Noah Baumbach realistic-weeper "Cashmir Pulaski Day" -- but his passion continues to be the Farley Foundation. When one of Farley's at-risk children is killed by gun violence, Farley is devastated, but then throws his newfound political skills into gun control and poverty, eventually taking fewer and fewer roles. His last appearance is a brief turn as the man who hires Woody Harellson in 2007's "No Country for Old Men."
In 2008, Governor Barack Obama appoints Farley to fill Senator Rahm Emmanuel's seat in Congress after the pugnacious Senator (and sometime Farley ally) resigns over ethics violations. Farley spends the next twenty-one years serving the state of Illinois in Washington, pushing hard for reforms in health care, the treatment of drug addicts, poverty, and childhood obesity. He teams up with fellow Senator Al Franken on many of these issues, and the two soon become an unmatched force on the Senate floor. Farley's passion is matched by Franken's wit, and CSPAN enjoys an unexpected ratings bump every time the two are "on." Sadly, his early years of hard living catch up to him in 2029, and he dies of a heart attack at the age of 65.
After a massive turn out for Senator Farley's lying in state, President Eliot Spitzer delivers the eulogy at his funeral, along with several ambassadors, congressman, and even a sitting governor -- all of them, save Spitzer, "Chris's kids" and former Farley Foundation participants. He is buried on the grounds of the Farley Foundation in Chicago.
*Hanks is the first actor to rack up two, separate, consecutive-wins for Best Actor, as older voters saw through Roberto Benigni's dinner circuit schtick the previous year, awarding Hanks the Oscar for "Saving Private Ryan."
**An award that is later expanded to cover motion-capture in late 2002, upon screenings of "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers"
***You know you'd see this shit.
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Knowing that Connery really wants out during production of You Only Live Twice, Broccoli and Saltzman not wanting to risk re-casting or scuttling the franchise decide to go all out to keep him. They give him the sweetheart deal they would have ended up giving him for DAF. Thus "Sean Connery as Ian Flemings James Bond 007 in On Her Majestys Secret Service" is born.
Thanks to the added dramatic weight to the story a re-energized Connery makes OHMSS the greatest Bond film, surpassing Goldfinger and From Russia With Love as fan favorites. Connery gets a best acting nomination although he doesn't win. Connery ends his run as Bond on a high note. Roger Moore is handled the mantle for Diamonds are Forever.
Due to him starting as Bond a film earlier, Moore retires a film earlier. Ending his run floating off into the sunset with Octopussy. Dalton is brought in as James Bond in A View to a Kill, bringing a harder edge and makeing it suck 50% less....the rest pretty much plays out the way it did what with the legal troubles that scuttled "The Property of a Lady" and the franchise going dormant until Golden Eye.
As for Lazenby...he still got to star as James Bond in the still crappy "Never Say Never Again".
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Stephine Meyers takes her novel Twilight to every publisher in the world and is shot down by all of them too. They reject the novel for the same reasons: the male lead is a creepy stalker, the female one has no goals in life other than having a boyfriend, and last, but not least, vampires that sparkle in sunlight!!! No books means no movies. All Internet rage stays on George Lucas and the Star Wars prequels.
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Stephine Meyers takes her novel Twilight to every publisher in the world and is shot down by all of them too. They reject the novel for the same reasons: the male lead is a creepy stalker, the female one has no goals in life other than having a boyfriend, and last, but not least, vampires that sparkle in sunlight!!! No books means no movies. All Internet rage stays on George Lucas and the Star Wars prequels.
While this a fine timeline, we then lose the glory of Devin's Breaking Dawn piece. We would be a lesser world because we would lose...
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While this a fine timeline, we then lose the glory of Devin's Breaking Dawn piece. We would be a lesser world because we would lose...
So true. We need this in the world. It's my war cry when confronted with Twi-hards. It's annoying when they look all side-cocked-dog-head in response, as if they'd never considered the concept laid so bare as that.
Sometimes though, they nod and say "Yeah, that part's fucked up", or even more awesomely, bemusedly turn around and use it on their friends. It's like an anti-Twilight virus! Keep it circulating!
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Disappointed by her rejection by the publishing industry, Stephenie Meyer spends several years retooling her Twilight books, sending them out for another round of submissions in 2006-2007. The series -- now at four parts -- is better written than its earlier itineration, but still laden with the same repellent gender politics. She chooses to self-publish them as eBooks in late 2007, targeting them as "romance novels" rather than "teen lit." The books take off online and Meyer becomes one of the early success stories of D.I.Y. publishing.
Among the fans of the Twilight Saga is Anne Romney, wife of Presidential candidate Mitt Romney. She shows Mitt some of Meyer's writing, and while the executive is intially dismissive, his wife soon convinces him of Meyer's talent. As two of the most successful Mormons in America, the Romneys and the Meyers begin spending more time together. In early 2008, Meyer drafts a speech for Mitt Romney that humanizes him, including Romney's passionate defense of his faith. The speech is credited with Romney's narrow victory in the 2008 Iowa caucuses, the first of many victories. Shortly thereafter, Stephanie Meyer joins Mitt Romney's speechwriting team and signs a multi-million dollar book contract with Little, Brown.
Thanks to Stephenie Meyer's "talent" as a speechwriter, Romney goes on to win the Republican nomination, choosing Mike Huckabee as his running mate. However, he is narrowly defeated by Senator Hilary Clinton and Senator Barack Obama in November.
Much of the credit for Senator Clinton's victory goes to her Dream Team of speechwriters, led by Aaron Sorkin. The Sorkin-Clinton relationship solidifys in early 2006, when former President Clinton chastises him: "Now Aaron, I know a little something about women, and I know you're hurting over your breakup with this Chenowith gal. But let me say this: You ought to do somethin' that matters with your gifts, instead of tryin' to take some network's money and get back at your ex-girlfriend." Sorkin takes the words to heart and scraps his upcoming TV series Studio 60. Hilary Clinton hires him in 2007 to be her chief speechwriter, and Sorkin recruits writers like Ira Glass, Sarah Vowell, Rachel Maddow, David Milch (scrapping John From Cincinatti) and others on a speech-by-speech basis to join the team. A documentary about the campaign, "Writing with Fire" wins the 2008 Academy Award for Best Documentary.
Stephenie Meyer takes her piles of money and buys a nice house.
Edited by Leonard - 2/10/12 at 2:57pm
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