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post #51 of 111

I'm just getting thrown by his constantly changing accent.  It's crazy how much it changes.

post #52 of 111

I quite enjoyed the blind gimmick and the freak out by the token British black guy about having to go underground. I like that he's not a complete villain...he'll help you out if it's not too difficult and if he can establish a "hero" shot.

post #53 of 111
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I like that he's not a complete villain...he'll help you out if it's not too difficult and if he can establish a "hero" shot.


He looked like a heartless douchebag because he honestly thought he had no chance of finding the right tree with that tribe trying to kill them all. But when he found it, he did go inside (despite his Cave Trauma) to get the bulbs. I'd call him a reluctant hero. Not saying much but so far he's my fave character on the show.

 

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I'm just getting thrown by his constantly changing accent.  It's crazy how much it changes.

 

Yeah, the worst is how whenever he shouts he reverts to Brit. He needs to watch more Pacino movies with his dialect coach.
 

 

post #54 of 111

I haven't seen the latest episode, but with regards to the son, I will say that he's the only reason I stayed with the show beyond the first episode. The actor is ok, looks like a meth addict, but his immediate reaction of "Ok, let's get the fuck out of here and go home," to everything once the craziness starts happening makes me like him a bit. I didn't like his complete reversal by the end of the second episode, but I'm hoping for some more realistic responses/actions like that from the characters as the show goes on.

post #55 of 111
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The actor is ok, looks like a meth addict


He looks like Mackenzie Crook from the British version of The Office.

 

post #56 of 111

I'll keep watching for the black camera guy, easily the only interesting character.

 

Regardless of how you feel about the concept, or implausible character motives, you have to admit the show is well put together.

post #57 of 111

They did some interesting/suspensful things with the cameras catching the blind guys creeping up on them I guess.

 

I do have to say, it was kinda funny when the German guy was willing to just leave everyone behind to get himself out as was the cameraman initially.  Real loyal crew they got there.

post #58 of 111
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Little bit of a siege flick, little bit of Wait Until Dark. They're definitely throwing in some interesting ideas within the found footage format.

post #59 of 111

I do believe Kurt is there to kill them all if they get too close to The Source, whatever that is, so I don't think loyalty is his highest priority.

 

I still crack up when I see a "when the hell did he put a camera there?" shot.

 

post #60 of 111

Yeah.  It took me a while to figure out that there was a camera strapped to the woman's arm also.  I kept wondering why they were lugging around a camera when they were being chased by the natives.

post #61 of 111

It's kind of a junky show, but as will be my constant refrain here, it's a short enough to episode order to cut them some slack. And the varying degrees of self interest in the cast is a good decision. The lead actor is still not quite getting it done for me, but the haircut helps immensely. I hope they get Bruce Greenwood involved in the action sooner rather than later, though that might be more of a hypothetical second season.

 

My guess is this first season arc ends with them finding Dad and getting transported to some unmapped other world/dimension kind of place, kind of like Land of the Lost or Lost World. Both of which have Lost in the title.

post #62 of 111

After the first few episodes, I have to say I'm on board. Things are definitely going to get much larger mythology wise. Almost to a Fringe scale I guess. Besides whatever made Emmett  abandon everyone in order to find the Source and the crew we have at least another organization interested in it. An organization with enough means to organize a quick extraction in the middle of an uncharted part of the Amazon.

 

How are things ratings wise? 

post #63 of 111

They're not terrific. I wouldn't be surprised if it's one short season and out. It dropped about half its audience in week 2.

post #64 of 111

Really? This sucks.

post #65 of 111

IMO, shows like this are meant more for cable than network. Network shows with any serious form of continuity from one episode to the next seem to have a hard time lasting. I know there are exceptions, but I think they tend to prove the rule more than anything.

post #66 of 111

I'm betting ABC was looking at this less a Lost replacement and more of a Lost stopgap. 

 

Its not over though. If it gets better and people keep watching it, they might bring it back. It's just as likely to get really terrible though, so we'll see.

post #67 of 111

For whatever reason, this show is scratching me right where I itch.  Liked it quite a bit.

 

post #68 of 111

Didn't care as much for that one. This one felt formulaic...and the deus ex machinas at the end of the episodes where the supernatural beings reverse their stance because a character sacrifices his or herself is getting old.

post #69 of 111

I love the appeal to popular cliche, of course the battle hardened mercenary knows more about infectious disease than the actual doctor, big medical is just a conspiracy to steal your money.  Pshaw, malaria...

 

ETA: And of course the homespun local girl knows far more than the fancy book learned folks

 

ETA2: This show is hilarious, why don't they rename it?  Nature vs. White People: Teaching those honkies a lesson!


Edited by kernel - 2/22/12 at 11:42pm
post #70 of 111

Halfway through season one!

 

I'm not really liking it. It looks pretty nice, I must admit. And I would have really eaten this shit up in the early 90s, right alongside Brisco County Jr and the Outer Limits remake. But there's shows like Justified now, so a really short season order works to it's benefit. I think the biggest problem is the cast and characters just don't work at all. There's not a single one that I'm really that interested in, and some of them are flat out awful. Growing pains, and all that, but aside from being slightly pleased whenever Greenwood shows up, I'm really just waiting for the next swarm of cockroaches or sentient vines.

post #71 of 111

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I think the biggest problem is the cast and characters just don't work at all. There's not a single one that I'm really that interested in, and some of them are flat out awful. Growing pains, and all that, but aside from being slightly pleased whenever Greenwood shows up, I'm really just waiting for the next swarm of cockroaches or sentient vines.


Yeah, the characters are shit - the local mystic girl especially is flat out terrible - but I think for what this show is, they work just fine.  I'd really like to see some bodies start piling up by the end of the season to raise the stakes a bit, but for now, I'm plenty satisfied watching this particular group be menaced by silly B-movie jungle monstrosities each week.  Greenwood is fun, but the show needs more of him.  Its starting to feel like they shot all of his scenes in a couple hours, cut him a check, and sent him on his way. 

 

Honestly, I can't figure out why I'm cutting this show so much slack.  It really doesn't deserve it.  I blame Alcatraz. 

 

  

post #72 of 111
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I'd really like to see some bodies start piling up by the end of the season to raise the stakes a bit

 

  


 

Douchey British Producer Guy has to be the first to go. I suspect either Greenwood's wife or the cute blonde will go missing (but not dead) by the end of season.

 

post #73 of 111

Heh.  'Douchey British Producer Guy'.  He can stick that in his resume, right after 'Shittiest 24 Villain Ever'.

post #74 of 111

If the British guy dies, then a major reason for them to document everything so fully is gone.  Unless they just replace him with another producer.  He's the money guy remember.

post #75 of 111
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Heh.  'Douchey British Producer Guy'.  He can stick that in his resume, right after 'Shittiest 24 Villain Ever'.



Yeah, that's the main thing I remember him from. I think he was also in some shitty looking SyFy channel show that didn't last long.

 

I did like his little scene with Kretschmann at the end of the previous episode though. I think mostly because it's kinda cool that "Fuck off" is the last line of the episode of a network TV show (bleeped or not).

post #76 of 111

Ugh. Shitty resolution for the second week in a row.

post #77 of 111

I liked the "In Memoriam" at the end...kind of a weird little touch and shows their strange commitment to the concept.

 

Off topic, but How is McDonough in Justified, Stelios? Graham Yost started my fondness for this actor in his series Boomtown and I'm glad he found a place to use him again.

post #78 of 111

He's fucking superb. Scariest than any five supposedly scary villains put together. Watching how everyone goes from weirded out at first to being visibly shaken the more they interact with him is great.

post #79 of 111

Oh, hey, The River. This show really turned into a bore, huh? Only two more episodes before this albatross is off my neck.

 

Bruce Greenwood centric episodes can't save you now.

post #80 of 111

Funny. I skipped last week's episode and didn't realize it until now. Does not bode well, does it?

post #81 of 111

But your avatar is still awesome. Isn't Justified a much better show than The River?

post #82 of 111

Only by a bit.

 

If you define a bit as the difference between Michael Jordan's NBA titles and mine. 

post #83 of 111
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I liked the episode. Greenwood of course is a much better actor than the rest of them, so that helped. And I thought the whistling wind demon stuff was eerily effective (looked it up, apparently "El Tunche" is based on a Peruvian legend, pretty cool). I guess you either like Peli's "less is more" approach or you don't, personally I'm a huge fan.

 

Nice to see Katie Featherston too. Greenwood pointing at his heart and rejecting her advances made me LOL, no separated and straight fella in his right mind would turn down a go at those ginormous jungle jubblies. They're all sweaty and everything

post #84 of 111

My dad cracked up when when Emmett turned down the schoolgirl nookie.

 

"Chill woman, the camera's rolling!"

post #85 of 111

Everyone out on this? I thought last week's was pretty good with Greenwood. I notice they're calling next week's a "season finale" and not a "series finale" so it looks like they were planning this to be a running series. I hope there is some sort of closure because I don't think it will be renewed.

post #86 of 111

I've been without cable and internet at my condo for the past few weeks and the handful of friends who were willing to give The River a shot gave up after the pilot and refuse to watch anymore.  Sigh.    

post #87 of 111

Still watching, though I need to get caught up on the last episode.

post #88 of 111
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I thought it was a pretty strong episode, especially the last 8-10 minutes. Kind of [Rec] lite.

post #89 of 111

Well, there was some amount of progress.  I guess if need be they could close out the season/series without it feeling too open-ended. 

 

Other than what to do about the fact that magic exists in their world.

post #90 of 111

Meh.

post #91 of 111

Watched it all...got a lot more interesting as it progressed.

 

Last two episodes (final episodes?) were actually pretty entertaining if not derivative.  They kinda went full on zombie and full on exorcist and kinda dropped the found footage tricks, which I was actually enjoying in some of the earlier episodes.

 

I wouldn't mind if they brought the show back if for only two reasons...Eloise Mumford

post #92 of 111

So, I guess this show is probably over now. The season finale was pretty lame. I would've been much happier of Lincoln had stayed dead and they had avoided the whole Exorcist rip-off thing. I doubt if this show gets picked up for another season, but, even though it's a pretty stupid show, I really would like to have some things cleared up. What organization does Kurt actually belong to, for example. Oh well.

post #93 of 111
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Lincoln didn't stay dead. Didn't see that coming!

 

Sucky season finale. Kinda liked that cheesy final twist though. Basically I liked the show, but I won't be too sad if it doesn't return.

post #94 of 111

Well, he's basically the main character.  Would the show then just revolve around Greenwood?  Seems most of the other characters are pretty half-baked compared to him.

post #95 of 111

Well just the idea that they were betting on a second season and were afraid to go all out like that. I enjoyed lots of parts in this little series, but wish as a whole it could've had some more closure. I guess it did considering how these found footage films usually do end. Maybe the writers will release a little article on where they were gonna go with certain things.

post #96 of 111

I jumped ship after the silly looking pilot.  Did this get any better?  I'm asking because I'm trying to avoid running into spoilers in this thread, so I didn't check.

post #97 of 111

Hmm, I figure it's fairly consistent, exposition dumps aside.  If you totally checked out of the pilot, then you probably won't have much fun with the rest of the episodes, even if it's a short season.

post #98 of 111

 

Note to self: Never EVER explore anything on the Amazon River that isn't on the fucking map.

post #99 of 111
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Well, he's basically the main character.  Would the show then just revolve around Greenwood?  Seems most of the other characters are pretty half-baked compared to him.



I think it would have been totally cool if they killed off the main character. And, in the hypothetical next season, yeah, they let Greenwood take the reins. They could definitely flesh out some of the other characters instead of concentrating on Lincoln as well. He sucked anyway.

post #100 of 111

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Note to self: Never EVER explore anything on the Amazon River that isn't on the fucking map.


Actually, Google Street View now works for the Amazon River.  So, it's all on the map.

 

Unless Bouina starts changing the River!

 

Truthfully, the only other character that I really felt could help carry the show if Lincoln stayed dead was Kurt.  I don't know, I kinda felt like most of the stuff regarding Greenwood's character only really would work if his son was still alive.  Other than maybe strife between him and his wife, if rescuing him meant having to give up his son.  Most of the other characters I didn't really care all that much about.  The hacker girl maybe?  She had the birthmark thing, but it seemed like she got kinda relegated to plot machination status.

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