SPIDER-MAN. TRAILER.

Okay, that's much better than the first trailer. However, is it bad that I'm more excited to see Denis Leary on the big screen than I am in actually seeing Spiderman?

"The Untold Story"? I guess "The Retelling of the Story We Told You 10 Years Ago" doesn't have as nice a ring to it. Also, wasn't this supposed to be the "lower budget" Spider-Man? It looks just as expensive as any of the other Spider-Man movies.

 

But I guess it looks fine. I just can't summon any excitement for it.

I share a lot of the reservations, but Garfield has been excellent in everything I've seen him in, I like Stone, and if we're actually going to get some wiseass Spidey, I'm giving it a shot.

 

Pretty much this. Raimi's films never did much for my action-wise, so since this looks pretty comparable on that front I'm willing to trade some Bruce Campbell cameos for a more interesting lead. I mean, I'd rather have both, but if I have to pick.

The Doc Ock fights and the myriad great stuff from SPIDER-MAN 3 not doing anything for you action-wise makes me think that superhero movies probably aren't your cup of tea. Narrative problems with 3 aside, Raimi's action beats in the last two films are glorious, pulpy, smack-you-around comic book gold.

 

The weird obsession with "Spidey must crack jokes arrrgggh" has got to be some kind of nerd wish fulfilment, right? Was Raimi's Spider-Man not cool enough for people to hero worship because he eased up on the puns and sarcasm? Did Tobey being a nerdy, doofy lovelorn loser out of the costume harsh a lot of projecting geeks' "he's so like me" buzzes?

Yeah, if the elevated train fight with Spidey and Doc Ock didn't wet your whistle, then I can't help you.

Yeah, this did nothing for me.  It doesn't look bad, exactly, but I still find that I'm totally underwhelmed.  I'm still more interested in The Avengers, but I'm sure I'll get around to seeing this at some point.  I'm just not in any sort of hurry.

It's an entertaining aspect of the character, and one that was pretty integral to his original incarnation; I'm not quite sure why an enthusiasm for that should qualify as a "weird obsession."

 

I don't know that it's necessary for one to be all "Team Raimi/Team Webb" :  I enjoyed Raimi's films for the most part, and liked Maguire just fine. Hopefully, I'll like this one, as well.

Some truly dodgy effects aside, I thought that this was pretty great. I'm still not intending to see it theatrically (unless the WOM is through the roof) but I'll watch it when it hits bluray.

The way this film has been handled and spoken about by Webb and others feels like a bit of an insult to the work that Raimi et al did in sending both the Spider-Man franchise and superhero films as a whole into the stratosphere. It irks me and many others.

 

And the wisecracking is entertaining. It's also number one on every fanboy wishlist for this film, overriding every other concren, and gets brought up incessantly when criticising Raimi's movies and talking up this one. If Movie Spider-Man cracked wise as often as Comic Spider-Man I guarantee you the film would suffer for it. What works on the page doesn't always work on the screen.

I've been whining about it forever. The parents issues are bullshit. Spidey has probably THE best origin story, as Lee wrote it, out of every superhero. Why the hell do they feel the need to fuck with it? It's bullshit.

Yeah, I kinda dug this.  The evading the law angle definitely intrigues me, even if some of the Lizard stuff looks a little groan worthy.  Still, he looks better than Green Goblin.

 

The little red LEDs flashing when he uses his web shooters is kind of a cool touch.

Ya know I was just reading the old thread for the original Spider-man and the anticipation. People were so greatful that a Spider-man movie was coming...times have changed.

Maybe it was because Raimi's Spider-Man looked like, y'know, the Spider-Man we all knew and loved, instead of Batman in red-and-blue tights by night, Bad boy James Dean type by day?

Just saw it. I like it. Alot.

Sold.

I feel I like this in principal more than I do in viewing it. Something about the way it's shot looks sort of messy, and not in a way that I'd call 'gritty'. Something looks massively off somewhere.

 

The origin thing is a bit of a problem really, but I actually appreciate changing it enough that I'll not know those beats. I'm reminded of something, I think it was at the start of a spider-man VHS from the 90s, where Stan Lee sits in his office and recites how he came up with the story "...I saw a spider on a wall" that the story is so familiar, like superman, that you either need to tell it radically differently, completely changing whole aspects of the character and his family dynamics, like they're doing here, or like the recent Hulk movie, shit it out in the title sequence and get on with things.

 

In principal, I prefer the ground up re-imagining, but I feel like I, and a whole lot of people would be more satisfied with the second. I'm also willing to bet this doesn't get a second film and after five years in development hell, Disney/Marvel will claw the rights back.

Edited by SeanCE - 2/7/12 at 9:31am

I liked it.  I'll be there.  I'm so easy.

Looks okay.  I was never completely in the tank for Raimi's three films, so I'm still willing to suspend my skepticism for the time being.  The effects look better on first glance (maybe because it's almost all at night?).  I like both Garfield and Stone, so I'm cautiously intrigued.  

Is it me, or was I the only one that thought 'Daredevil II?" when watching that trailer?

 

It's a well cut trailer, it hits all the right beats, and I'll likely get around to seeing it at some point, whether theatrical or DVD......but I can't seem to get jazzed, or muster any kind of anticipation for this movie.

I dont mind reboots if enough time passes, but this is just so unnecessary.  It doesn't look bad, just pointless.  I'm sick of giving studios my hard earned money when they have zero respect for the audience.  I MIGHT see this when it's on blu-ray, as a netflix rental.  

I like (even love) the people involved in this but I detest what Sony has done with the franchise. I find myself reluctant to get excited. Not because of the movie's speculative qualities or detriments (though I have to emphasize once again my seething hatred for the parents storyline) but to make a point. I'm so conflicted. 

I guess part of MY lack of enthusiasm, is that the movie comes off like the mercenary effort that it is, knowing the story behind it; basically its only reason for existence, is that it's a 'cheap' quickie effort by Sony, in order to be able to hang on to the Spider-Man film and film merchandising rights, otherwise they revert to Marvel/Disney.

 

The box office numbers for this are probably besides the point.   A windfall would be nice but not crucial; it's more important for the studio that the movie exists at all.

Stick to those guns, stel. This thing is a kick in the balls, regardless of quality.

But it has Emma Stone!

 

I even watched The Help because of her. She's going to think I don't love her if I miss it. I don't want to hurt her.

 

 

Considering that I have a box of "Amazing Spider-Man" fruit snacks in my cupboard, I think it goes without saying that I was on board for this no matter what. Even so, the trailer has gotten me more excited about this than I thought was imaginable.

I'm looking at it as a "What if?" story.  I enjoyed most of those in the comics.  I loved Raimi's movies too, so they gotta co-exist for me.  Like I said, I'm easy.

What If...Spiderman Went to The Extreeeeeme?!

 

My son is 9 and he's a gigantic Spider-Man fan.  Comics, toys, video games (especially the video games), shirts, posters, fruit snacks.  You name it.

 

He saw the preview and got angry.  He has no desire to see it.  "Wait, why is that a new Spider-Man?  Why is he in high school again?".  I explained to him that they were "starting over" with new people.  I didn't mention it was because of money and I even tried to hype it up that it could be cool, because I don't want to be the cause of him being jaded.  He loves the 3 movies we have, and to him this is them pretending those movies do not exist.  He is not cool with that.  Heck, he's made me promise to take him to Episode I in 3D but he told me he doesn't want to see this at all.
 

 

It looks fine.  I liked the Raimi films and all, but this doesn't look terrible or anything.

 

Still, I kinda hope that he sees a spider crashing through the window of his bedroom when he's thinking about what he should call himself and says "yes, father, I will become a spider."

I don't know why they didn't go all out and give him red dot laser action. To better aim those webs!

 

They should have made him more anatomically a spider.  Not give him six arms or anything silly like that, but the webs should come out of his ass.

That would've guaranteed a ticket sale from me.

 

LOL at the thought of Peter Parker swinging around NYC with a butt-flap costume, shooting webs out of his ass, like farts.   It would definitely bring in the Adam Sandler and Kevin James comedy crowd.

I'd be perfectly happy if his existing web shooters made fart noises every time he used them, but only if no one in the movie ever acknowledged it.

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Not out of his ass, but it does have Dan Aykroyd (who often talks out of his ass in real life!):

http://www.reelz.com/trailer-clips/22659/earth-vs-the-spider-trailer/
 

 

Re: the wisecracking

 

Kinda refreshing.  Not because it was something missing from Raimi's iteration of the character, or because I need Spiderman to be a quip machine, but because, based on everything we'd seen prior to this trailer, it looked like they were gonna play up the mopey emo angle.  Glad to see parts of this movie might be, ya know, fun.

 

But mainly, its still weird to me that this movie even exists. 

 

 

 

It looks perfectly fine. I wanted to say that there appear to be too many scenes at night, but there's no real telling, and even if that's so, I think that's a perfectly valid way for this film to set itself apart from Raimi's pictures. I like a lot of the people involved in this, so while I may not do the fanboy midnight screening or whatever, I may at least sneak in a lazy Sunday afternoon screening.

 

 

The thing that's weird about the scene with the car thief is that it's very unlike Spider-Man to be in the backseat. Shouldn't he descend upside-down from his webline and tap on the sunroof or the driver side window, then engage in his patented, fan-approved witty banter?

 

Really my only gripe.

All of a sudden I am getting the sense that I undervalued the appeal of this movie.  I think for 25-35 year old geeks, Raimi's version of the character felt definitive, and this felt like a reboot that came a little too quickly, and would have to coast on the name recognition of the brand.

 

But now, to me anyway, I am looking at this trailer and could easily see this being embraced by teenagers just as much, if not more, than Raimi's version.  I think it's going to do a lot better than I thought it would.

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They should have used a convertible.  That way, Spidey could descend upside-down right behind him.

Also, doesn't this mean that Spider-man also broke into the car?  Or is that his car?

Hey to me the definitive Spiderman is by Stan The Man Lee and Steve Ditko.

 

I liked the first Raimi film fine, though I felt it short changed the Quip factor. Don't remember anything about the other two.

 

As to the question poised above: "Why the Quips Argh Fanboys Argh?" it's because Spidey's sense of humor is a major part of the character. Peter Parker can act out and act wise as Spiderman in a way he can't as himself. That is a major appeal, maybe the major appeal, of being Spiderman. (I doubt it's that whole power and responsibility thing).

 

 

I think Super Hero movies should be fun, not dour (Batman excepted). That's why I love the new Marvel films. They are fun, poke fun at themselves, but are able to play it straight as well.

 

 

As for this trailer: it makes me interested in the film, but I'm put off my having yet another fucking villain with ties to the character. Also have to get over Peter Parker having a bouffant hairdo.

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How does he fit that hair under that mask?  It's impossible I say.  Impossible!

3D swinging through city was always going to get me there.

I like the Spidey/Cops fight

Not too sure about "I created him" or beefy lizard (if they've gone classic skinny Spidey why go all Hulk lizard?)

But still there, I still don't see the point of another origin version but it does look entertaining.

Plus I've still got Raimi Spidey 1,2 & 3 on DVD for my classic Spidey fix.

The Lizard was always bigger though, right?  Also, I imagine they did it for the contrast to skinny Parker.

 

Or in a twist, it's actually Ben Reilly.  That's why this is the untold story.

Compare it to the old one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN3YaybNJ2s

Rousing score, Kirsten Dunst nipples, funny moments, great action bits, Willem Dafoe grinning. Imagine it also had Bruce Campbell, Macho Man Randy Savage, and a J Jonah Jameson line. It'd go through the roof. I think that trailer looks old, but still is great. I can see why kids would wanna see it. Why there'd be anticipation.

 

In the new one I can't see it at all. It doesn't look much better than Jumper, Push or I am Number Four.

Wow, yeah, that trailer certainly trashes the new one. I get the overall broad aspects of the story, without feeling like I've got it all played out in my head. It also sells the comedy much better than weird, angry, threatening spider-man in the back of the car. That tray catch is a proper classic moment from the last ten years.

 

Also, TEN YEARS.

 

 

 

*So fucking old.

Edited by SeanCE - 2/7/12 at 12:44pm

If there's ANYTHING as iconic as the upside-down kiss from Raimi's first Spider-Man they sure ain't showing it in the trailer

 

That's because I doubt it exists.

 

For all the criticisms of Raimi's Spidey movies, the first two films particularly, are infused with such a genuine love for the character and his universe, that it virtually bursts off the screen.   The first two films are sincere, almost joyful, excercises in film making.

 

The impression you get from the trailer with this new one, is a very Sony-Bean-Counter thing.  There doesn't seem to be any passion behind it, other than Marc Webb saying the words 'dark' or 'punk rock', every other sentence, in the recent interviews.

 

 

Hey, does any of this film happen in day light?

 

I'm done grumbling. This looks decent. I will go in open minded. But I'm with Stelios, the 'untold' parent sub plot is just killing it for me.

 

And seriously, no J.K. Simmons makes me want to cry.

 

 

 Thanks to this trailer I will be seeing the movie. All the action looks good, I like the wise cracks and it looks like Dennis Leary will be good. I still don't like that its Spidey's origin story again. We all know it well by now. I don't see why the movie couldn't have an animated opening that shows the origin.

 

   My guess is that the Amazing Spider-Man will be the Return of the Jedi of superhero movies; it will be flawed but the pros will more than make up for it.