The George Motherfucking W. Bush Thread - Page 2

How can a GWB thread go this far without a compilation of his oratory skills?

But duuur Obama said there were 57 states! Teleprompter! Biden! He stupid too! 

The challenge is to find an instance where W seemed really smart...

I've got one! Ducking his military service! It should have prevented any possible political career, but I'd have done the exact same thing in his position.

At 5:18 of Bush's slide show is when he starts showing pictures of hmself looking of WMDs in The Oval Office.  This proof he isn't a nice guy. He is an delusional di[shit that really felt he was a fine president.

Fuck all those sheep for laughing.

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Originally Posted by Chaz 

At 5:18 of Bush's slide show is when he starts showing pictures of hmself looking of WMDs in The Oval Office.  This proof he isn't a nice guy. He is an delusional di[shit that really felt he was a fine president.

 

Fuck all those sheep for laughing.

Well, there was a WMD in his office, it's just that if there wasn't a mirror there, he wouldn't have seen it.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the two worst parts of GWB's legacy.

Alito and Roberts.  The political polarization of the DOJ was bad, but Bush's hand in changing the balance of the supreme court will have more lasting detrimental effects than anything else he's ever done.

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Originally Posted by pervis42 

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the two worst parts of GWB's legacy.

 

Alito and Roberts.  The political polarization of the DOJ was bad, but Bush's hand in changing the balance of the supreme court will have more lasting detrimental effects than anything else he's ever done.

I have to add Donald Rumsfeld to that lot. He's out of power now but his sheer ineptitude and lack of contingency planning has left us all a legacy (moral, financial and many other) that will be haunting us for many, many years (probably generations) to come.

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Originally Posted by Farsight 

The challenge is to find an instance where W seemed really smart...

 

I've got one! Ducking his military service! It should have prevented any possible political career, but I'd have done the exact same thing in his position.

Oh, another reason for saying "screw'im" to Bush: torpedoing Dan Rather's career and legacy for even attempting to get at the truth of this matter. Now, no, I don't think Bush was sitting in the shadows and personally pulled the trigger on hanging Rather out to dry, but he certainly cultivated a climate where raising questions about the commander in chief was seen as nothing less than an act of treason.

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Originally Posted by Shan 

I have to add Donald Rumsfeld to that lot. He's out of power now but his sheer ineptitude and lack of contingency planning has left us all a legacy (moral, financial and many other) that will be haunting us for many, many years (probably generations) to come.

I wonder...was it ineptitude on Rummy's part or could it be that he just purposefully didn't give a shit what happened after Iraq fell?

Maybe a little of both?

I got the vibe that the Bush administration always thought things would just work themselves out in Iraqi. How adults could be so naive is beyond me. I was 27 when the war started and the whole "we'll bomb the shit out of them and then everything will be fine" vibe I got from them never made any sense to me. I figured Iraqis are going to be pissed after this. By using simple logic I wasn't surprised by the insurgence.

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Originally Posted by Greg Clark 

Oh, another reason for saying "screw'im" to Bush: torpedoing Dan Rather's career and legacy for even attempting to get at the truth of this matter. Now, no, I don't think Bush was sitting in the shadows and personally pulled the trigger on hanging Rather out to dry, but he certainly cultivated a climate where raising questions about the commander in chief was seen as nothing less than an act of treason.

Then Dynamo Dan and his crack producer team should have avoided the pitfalls of falsifying evidence.  That kind of thing will ruin journalism careers faster than you can say "Jayson Blair".

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Originally Posted by Dr Vivisector 

Then Dynamo Dan and his crack producer team should have avoided the pitfalls of falsifying evidence.  That kind of thing will ruin journalism careers faster than you can say "Jayson Blair".

Rather and CBS definitely jumped the gun on 'publishing' this story and if anything, are guilty of being too gullible and not following up with the research...but, to me, the whole thing has a 'Rovian' stench to it.

Rather was definitely thrown under the bus by CBS/Viacom.

FWIW-  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_documents_controversy

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Originally Posted by VTRan 

I wonder...was it ineptitude on Rummy's part or could it be that he just purposefully didn't give a shit what happened after Iraq fell?

Maybe a little of both?

 

I'll get to Rumsfeld in a moment but I can certainly tell you who *did* know and it could be argued didn't care given on what ended up happening ...

http://www.infowars.com/articles/iraq/cheney_video_1994_warning_of_iraq_invasion_quagmire.htm

I give you Dick Cheney c. 1994

Q: Do you think the U.S., or U.N. forces, should have moved into Baghdad?

A: No.

Q: Why not?

A: Because if we'd gone to Baghdad we would have been all alone. There wouldn't have been anybody else with us. There would have been a U.S. occupation of Iraq. None of the Arab forces that were willing to fight with us in Kuwait were willing to invade Iraq.

Once you got to Iraq and took it over, took down Saddam Hussein's government, then what are you going to put in its place? That's a very volatile part of the world, and if you take down the central government of Iraq, you could very easily end up seeing pieces of Iraq fly off: part of it, the Syrians would like to have to the west, part of it -- eastern Iraq -- the Iranians would like to claim, they fought over it for eight years. In the north you've got the Kurds, and if the Kurds spin loose and join with the Kurds in Turkey, then you threaten the territorial integrity of Turkey.

It's a quagmire if you go that far and try to take over Iraq.

The other thing was casualties. Everyone was impressed with the fact we were able to do our job with as few casualties as we had. But for the 146 Americans killed in action, and for their families -- it wasn't a cheap war. And the question for the president, in terms of whether or not we went on to Baghdad, took additional casualties in an effort to get Saddam Hussein, was how many additional dead Americans is Saddam worth?

Our judgment was, not very many, and I think we got it right.

I wonder what changed? (No, not really).