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post #201 of 3167
3/18/12 at 6:06am

Smith and Manning have the same agent too.  Of course, Smith exploring other options is smart even if he wants to stay in SF.

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post #202 of 3167
3/18/12 at 7:10am

Yeah, it makes sense for Smith to exercise his free agent rights before all the QB jobs disappear. The places that would give him the starting job are already few. If he waits for a call from the 49ers that may never come, he could end up a backup somewhere like Jason Campbell did.

 

I still don't know how that happened.

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post #203 of 3167
3/18/12 at 7:39am

Looks like Brandon Lloyd landed in New England with his boy Josh McDaniels.  Good fit for him, and as great as the Pats offense was, they've really been in need of a deep threat.  They signed Anthony Gonzalez too apparently.  I didn't even know that guy was still playing football.

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post #204 of 3167
3/18/12 at 7:57am

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Originally Posted by Farsight View Post

Yeah, it makes sense for Smith to exercise his free agent rights before all the QB jobs disappear. The places that would give him the starting job are already few. If he waits for a call from the 49ers that may never come, he could end up a backup somewhere like Jason Campbell did.

 

I still don't know how that happened.


Campbell is coming off an injury, so I assume he wants to play it safe and just have a job.  And yeah, the Brandon Marshall signing is great, but that O-line in Chicago needs some serious work.  If I was a betting man, I'd say Cutler is a lock to miss time this year.

 

I feel bad for Campbell.  I've always liked the guy.  He got the short end of the stick in DC (and Oakland for that matter), with the revolving door of coaches and coordinators and offensive systems.  The only consistency he had with the Redskins was that there was consistently a lack of talent around him.   

 

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post #205 of 3167
3/18/12 at 8:03am
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Originally Posted by fuzzy dunlop View Post

Looks like Brandon Lloyd landed in New England with his boy Josh McDaniels.  Good fit for him, and as great as the Pats offense was, they've really been in need of a deep threat.  They signed Anthony Gonzalez too apparently.  I didn't even know that guy was still playing football.


Lloyd isn't the answer.  Aligator arms will still suck.
 

 

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post #206 of 3167
3/18/12 at 12:54pm


 

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I feel bad for Campbell.  I've always liked the guy.  He got the short end of the stick in DC (and Oakland for that matter), with the revolving door of coaches and coordinators and offensive systems.  The only consistency he had with the Redskins was that there was consistently a lack of talent around him.   

 



I'm just surprised he didn't wait and see. He's better than half the starters in the NFL and has the numbers to prove it. I have to think one of Manning's rejects would've signed him as a starter. Or that one of a dozen teams would've given him a chance to win the job. Just a weird decision on his part, especially since his injury (broken collar bone) has no long-term concerns.

 

If someone ever teaches Cutler what an internal clock is, Campbell's screwed! smile.gif

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post #207 of 3167
3/18/12 at 2:39pm

And Flynn picks the Seahawks.  Meanwhile, Miami is bringing in David Gerrard.  Sorry about that, Fins fans.

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post #208 of 3167
3/18/12 at 3:20pm

Good for Flynn. A better situation and if he succeeds it will be on his own merits instead of the whole "product of the GB system."

 

And I'll take a straight-up Garrard for Henne trade.

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post #209 of 3167
3/18/12 at 3:25pm

Richard DIckson, Heck, I am...Not Sorry!  The Sorry bit is that...Jeff Ireland is...Still, Miami's GM!  Ireland should be demoted...Immediately!  Let someone else be GM.  He would probably take another offensive lineman instead of drafting a QB in the first Rd!  To get Ryan Tannehill, Miami might have to trade...up, over the Browns.  If the Browns or...Anybody else likes Tannehill, Miami would lose a chance at yet another QB!  Now, they might as well stick with Matt Moore, whom has...one year left on his contract, draft a QB, and then let the rookie QB take over the middle of 2012, and say No...Moore starts for...Matt!

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post #210 of 3167
3/19/12 at 7:07am
Thread Starter 

Word is the Browns have decided to just go with McCoy in 2012 and then try and get Matt Barkley next year.

 

And Flynn to the Seahawks...Pete Carroll has now had a different starting QB every season since he's come to Seattle.

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post #211 of 3167
3/19/12 at 8:56am

From Schefter: Manning to Broncos - Tebow to be traded.

 

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post #212 of 3167
3/19/12 at 8:57am

Tebow Time in Miami!

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post #213 of 3167
3/19/12 at 9:03am
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Originally Posted by Rando View Post

From Schefter: Manning to Broncos - Tebow to be traded.

 



Manning should go to SF.  Fuck his brother, play with that defens, Davis, crabtree, manningham, moss, RB's.  Bad, bad move to Den.

 

But glad Tebow is GONE forever. 

 

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post #214 of 3167
3/19/12 at 9:04am

If Manning really wanted to win SF was the best option for him.

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post #215 of 3167
3/19/12 at 9:07am

He's certainly not going to make people forget Elway, that's for sure.  Not unless he wins three rings while he's there.

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post #216 of 3167
3/19/12 at 9:30am
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So much for the warm weather/dome speculation.  Denver in December ain't exactly Honolulu-like temperatures.  Granted, two of his conference away games are in Oakland and San Diego, but KC gets pretty damn cold as well.  Or maybe a UT guy decided to stick it to a UF guy one last time...

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post #217 of 3167
3/19/12 at 9:30am

I don't get this decision at all.  It's gotta be money right?  Or he just really wants to play for Elway?  Seems like the 49er's were his best shot at a superbowl.

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post #218 of 3167
3/19/12 at 9:45am
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Ha ha, from Rich Eisen's twitter:

 

"The Colts are not on the Broncos schedule in 2012 but of course the Patriots are. And so are the Texans, who clearly cannot escape Peyton."

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post #219 of 3167
3/19/12 at 9:51am

Richard Dickson, I could definitely see Tim Tebow in...Miami!  Alex Smith will likely get an...Extension with The 49ers.

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post #220 of 3167
3/19/12 at 9:52am

Wasn't Tebow playing in Miami the only sellout for the Dolphins in 2011?

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post #221 of 3167
3/19/12 at 10:08am
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I don't get this decision at all.  It's gotta be money right?  Or he just really wants to play for Elway?  Seems like the 49er's were his best shot at a superbowl.



Easy division.  Elway is in charge so he can talk to him and get things he wants.  He hates Tebow too.  Atleast I hope so.

 

Lightning won't strike twice and whomever takes Tebow has to redo their entire offense.

 

I say Broncos don't get more than a 4th for Tebow.

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post #222 of 3167
3/19/12 at 10:09am
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Wasn't Tebow playing in Miami the only sellout for the Dolphins in 2011?



Yeah, they pulled out all the stops and honored his Gators championship team.

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post #223 of 3167
3/19/12 at 10:14am
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Word is that he's leaning toward the Steelers now that contract talks are off with San Diego.  But hey, Brady Quinn is interviewing with the Chiefs!  You've got that going for you!

 



Tolbert signs with the Panthers for 4 years, getting nicely lost in the shuffle of the Manning news.  Apparently Tolbert is just fine with being just another guy on a team because it's gonna be pretty easy to get lost in that RB corps.

 

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post #224 of 3167
3/19/12 at 10:16am

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Tolbert signs with the Panthers for 4 years, getting nicely lost in the shuffle of the Manning news.  Apparently Tolbert is just fine with being just another guy on a team because it's gonna be pretty easy to get lost in that RB corps.

 


Somebody in Carolina must be on the trading block.  Probably Stewart.  We know John Fox is a big fan, and I can only assume he's gonna be shopping around for some new weapons for Peyton.

 

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post #225 of 3167
3/19/12 at 10:32am

Panthers are saying they have no plans to trade Stewart though.

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post #226 of 3167
3/19/12 at 10:46am

My friends and I are poking and prodding another buddy, a diehard Niners fan, on his facebook wall about the possibility of the 49ers picking up Tebow and therefore nullifying all their newly acquired receivers. Won't happen, but he's freaking out. He really wanted Peyton.

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post #227 of 3167
3/19/12 at 11:18am

Eh, as long as they resign Alex Smith, they should theoretically have improved themselves from a year they went 13-3.  I'm disappointed, sure... but better Denver than Arizona.

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post #228 of 3167
3/19/12 at 4:08pm
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Easy division.  Elway is in charge so he can talk to him and get things he wants.  He hates Tebow too.  Atleast I hope so.

 

Lightning won't strike twice and whomever takes Tebow has to redo their entire offense.

 

I say Broncos don't get more than a 4th for Tebow.



 

Not to mention a very good defense and run game. 

 

 

Den and Seattle are the two teams from last year where you looked and said "boy, they'd be a threat if they had a legit NFL QB"

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post #229 of 3167
3/19/12 at 4:15pm

Goddamn Broncos.

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post #230 of 3167
3/19/12 at 5:35pm
Dolphins got their man! David Garrard!
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post #231 of 3167
3/19/12 at 5:36pm

Time to start the Tebow to the Bucs rumors now!

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post #232 of 3167
3/19/12 at 5:39pm
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Time to start the Tebow to the Bucs rumors now!



Good god NO.  We didn't spend all that money on Vincent Jackson to bring in Tim Tebow to throw to him.

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post #233 of 3167
3/19/12 at 7:10pm

James May, What a...Waste.  Garrard...used to be pretty good.  Oh well, I hope Ireland is smart enough to draft a QB this year, as Moore and Garrard each have 1 year to be Dolphins!

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post #234 of 3167
3/20/12 at 4:50am

The more I hear the Tebow-to-Patriots rumors, the more it makes sense. McDaniels is there, after all, and this is a team that was playing Julian Edelman at defensive back. They'll find a place for him to play.

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post #235 of 3167
3/20/12 at 10:36am
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The more I hear the Tebow-to-Patriots rumors, the more it makes sense. McDaniels is there, after all, and this is a team that was playing Julian Edelman at defensive back. They'll find a place for him to play.



Don't forget that Denver picking Tebow was partially because of rumors that the Patriots loved him and were going to move up to get him.

 

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post #236 of 3167
3/20/12 at 11:59am

What are the rules on non-qb players passing the ball? Because if you lined up Tebow alongside Brady, the defense might not have a clue as to what's coming. Brady pass it? Brady hand it off to Tebow to run? To pass? Direct snap to Tebow who muscles it up the middle? Is he a strict running back? Given how the Pats love to mix things up (two giant TEs what?) in terms of odd, unseen formations (to stay ahead of the curve, I guess), it could be...interesting. And Brady's not getting any younger, either. I really don't think it'd happen but the more I think about it, the more it could be fun to watch. It might not result in much, but it could be fun.

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post #237 of 3167
3/20/12 at 12:09pm

As long as they're behind the line of scrimmage and haven't received a forward pass, anybody can pass the ball.

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post #238 of 3167
3/20/12 at 12:53pm
Thread Starter 

Also read that Green Bay is a possible destination for Tebow.  Wazzahuh?

 

Still think Jax is best place, and with a new owner that wants to bring in the folks, he can do what the other guys didn't do two years ago--bring in Tebow.  They still need more WRs, though.  He had a couple of good ones in Denver, but Jax has what...the guy they signed from Dallas that was a decent 2nd WR?

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post #239 of 3167
3/20/12 at 1:15pm
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Also read that Green Bay is a possible destination for Tebow.  Wazzahuh?

 


Conversation on that on local sportstalk was that Thompson and McCarthy apparently think highly of Tebow, and as far as developing as a QB, well, GB has kinda been the cradle of quarterbacks over the last 2 decades (Favre, Brunell, Kurt Warner had a cup of coffee there, Hasselbeck, Aaron Brooks, Rodgers, Matt Flynn (projected)..), so if he's going to refine the skill set, what better place to be? 

 

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post #240 of 3167
3/20/12 at 2:32pm

Hines Ward officially retires - next stop, the Hall of the Very Good!

 

 

Oh, they don't have one of those? Bummer. 

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post #241 of 3167
3/20/12 at 2:40pm
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Conversation on that on local sportstalk was that Thompson and McCarthy apparently think highly of Tebow, and as far as developing as a QB, well, GB has kinda been the cradle of quarterbacks over the last 2 decades (Favre, Brunell, Kurt Warner had a cup of coffee there, Hasselbeck, Aaron Brooks, Rodgers, Matt Flynn (projected)..), so if he's going to refine the skill set, what better place to be? 

 



Hah! Oh man, that's a good one.

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post #242 of 3167
3/20/12 at 2:48pm

Aaron Brooks is easily the fourth-best QB ever to play... for the New Orleans Saints.

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post #243 of 3167
3/20/12 at 3:31pm

I'm not putting Brooks in the HoF, but he was hardly terrible... 80 starts, 120 tds, 84 ints, fairly good stretch from 02-04. 

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post #244 of 3167
3/20/12 at 3:31pm
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Hines Ward officially retires - next stop, the Hall of the Very Good!

 

 

Oh, they don't have one of those? Bummer. 


Stupid WR logjam in the Hall of Fame.  Somebody should make a Youtube video of nothing but Hines Ward blocks downfield.  I'd watch it.

 

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post #245 of 3167
3/20/12 at 4:31pm
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I'm not putting Brooks in the HoF, but he was hardly terrible... 80 starts, 120 tds, 84 ints, fairly good stretch from 02-04. 



I was being semi-serious. Brees, Manning, Hebert.. and then Brooks. That's pretty much the top four in Saints history.

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post #246 of 3167
3/20/12 at 8:02pm
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I was being semi-serious. Brees, Manning, Hebert.. and then Brooks. That's pretty much the top four in Saints history.



Well, New Orleans has had other good QBs....unfortunately the Saints usually got hold of them 2-3 yrs past their sell-by date (Billy Kilmer, Ken Stabler, Jim Everett, etc etc). 

 

 

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post #247 of 3167
3/20/12 at 10:10pm

One big hit and Peyton's career is over. He shouldn't even be playing the game at this point. I don't know why this isn't a bigger issue. The dude has a very fucked up neck. Unless the Broncos gameplan is for him to take zero sacks over the course of a season (at any cost), I just don't see how this makes any sense.

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post #248 of 3167
3/20/12 at 10:22pm

Everything that I have heard is that he is at no greater risk for catastrophic injury than any other player.  Is there something not mentioned in those reports that you know of?

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post #249 of 3167
3/20/12 at 10:49pm

Yeah, the doctors have said his neck is a non-issue. The main health concern is whether the nerve damage is in arm will ever completely heal.

 

He gets hits less than pretty much any QB in the league. His internal clock and arm speed is Marino-like. I think he'll do fine in Denver, but I think he just gave up his shot to win another super bowl. Denver's roster just isn't that good. Even with Peyton at 100%, I'd put them below NE, Pit, Bal and Houston in talent. And people acting like the AFC West is a cake walk are nuts. There's no bad team in that division. They're all unpredictable, but could just as easily go 11-5 as 5-11.

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post #250 of 3167
3/20/12 at 11:58pm

Seeing Manning in the news like this is like seeing an ex that you still love, out with another man.

 

 But you know, you're the one that broke it off, but you still love her and wish her the best kind of thing..

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