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When The Bankers Plotted To Overthrow FDR

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I thought about putting this in one of the other threads (2012 election, Wall Street...?) but I thought maybe a new thread might be more applicable...new blood, so to speak.

 

Short piece on All Things Considered/NPR the other day.

 

Certain elements are very Deja Vu inducing.

 

 

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When The Bankers Plotted To Overthrow FDR

 

It was a dangerous time in America: The economy was staggering, unemployment was rampant and a banking crisis threatened the entire monetary system.

The newly elected president pursued an ambitious legislative program aimed at easing some of the troubles. But he faced vitriolic opposition from both sides of the political spectrum.

"This is despotism, this is tyranny, this is the annihilation of liberty," one senator wrote to a colleague. "The ordinary American is thus reduced to the status of a robot. The president has not merely signed the death warrant of capitalism, but has ordained the mutilation of the Constitution, unless the friends of liberty, regardless of party, band themselves together to regain their lost freedom."

Those words could be ripped from today's headlines. In fact, author Sally Denton tells weekends on All Things Considered host Guy Raz, they come from a letter written in 1933 by Republican Sen. Henry D. Hatfield of West Virginia, bemoaning the policies of Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

Denton is the author of a new book, The Plots Against the President: FDR, a Nation in Crisis, and the Rise of the American Right.

She says that during the tense months between FDR's election in November and his inauguration in March 1933, democracy hung in the balance.

"There was a lot at play. It could have gone very different directions," Denton says.

Though it's hard for us to imagine today, she says fascism, communism, even Naziism seemed like possible solutions to the country's ills.

"There were suggestions that capitalism was not working, that democracy was not working," she says.

Some people even called for a dictator to pull America out of the Great Depression.

When Roosevelt finally took office, he embarked on the now-legendary First Hundred Days, an ambitious legislative program aimed at reopening and stabilizing the country's banks and getting the economy moving again.

"There was just this sense that he was upsetting the status quo," Denton says.

Critics on the right worried that Roosevelt was a Communist, a socialist or the tool of a Jewish conspiracy. Critics on the left complained his policies didn't go far enough. Some of Roosevelt's opponents didn't stop at talk. Though it's barely remembered today, there was a genuine conspiracy to overthrow the president.

The Wall Street Putsch, as it's known today, was a plot by a group of right-wing financiers.

"They thought that they could convince Roosevelt, because he was of their, the patrician class, they thought that they could convince Roosevelt to relinquish power to basically a fascist, military-type government," Denton says.

"It was a cockamamie concept," she adds, "and the fact that it even got as far as it did is pretty shocking."

The conspirators had several million dollars, a stockpile of weapons and had even reached out to a retired Marine general, Smedley Darlington Butler, to lead their forces.

"Had he been a different kind of person, it might have gone a lot further," Denton says. "But he saw it as treason and he reported it to Congress."


Denton says that as she was writing the book, she was struck by the parallels between the treatment of Roosevelt and that of Barack Obama. For example, a cottage industry much like the birther movement grew up around proving that the Dutch-descended Roosevelt was actually a secret Jew.

"It seems to me that going through history here, there are times that we need to have a demon, somebody that's not of us, in order to solidify our fears and our anxieties," Denton says.

"And I don't know what that is in the impulse of the American body politic, but... this is 75 years later, and some of these same impulses continue."

 

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One member of the Putsch? Prescott Bush. As in, Dubya's granddaddy. And yes, you should be feeling a chill up your spine right about now.

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A fascinating relic of the "America needs a dictator" thinking during the Depression is this 1933 Walter Huston starrer about a cronyistic, Herbert Hoover-type President who transforms himself into a benevolent fascist dictator after being injured in a car crash.

 

gabriel-over-the-white-house.jpg

 


Edited by Art Decade - 2/13/12 at 8:21pm
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A fascinating relic of the "America needs a dictator" thinking during the Depression is this 1933 Walter Huston starrer about a cronyistic, Herbert Hoover-type President who transforms into a benevolent dictator after being injured in a car crash.

 


 

I'm getting an "error occurred..." message when trying to view that link.

 

I read up on the film on IMDB and wiki....interesting to see that WR Hearst was one of the producers especially given all the "good" the president does.

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I'm getting an "error occurred..." message when trying to view that link.


Fixed.

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Fixed.


I don't think that YouTube link is the one you wanted to use....?

the one their now is a Cato Institute video.

 

there are some vids over here

http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/1553/Gabriel-over-the-White-House/videos.html

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Yeah, I know. The Cato summary is actually an overall better look at the film than the clip I'd first posted. Though, naturally, since it's the Cato Institute, their final parallel of the film's President with FDR is wide of the mark. It's all interesting, just the same.

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Yeah, I know. The Cato summary is actually a better overall look at the film than the clip I'd first posted. Though, naturally, since it's the Cato Institute, their paralleling of the film's President of FDR is wide of the mark. It's all interesting, just the same.


cool....and thanks for the recommendation.

It's pretty amusing that the movie is so open to interpretation depending on one's ideology. 

 

post #9 of 14

Absolutely relevant to what Obama's facing now. 

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There was a good opinion article in the Times Union of Albany about how FDR dealt with similar struggles in 1936 as Obama is in 2008. Hopefully the final outcome will be similar as well!

 

http://www.timesunion.com/default/article/New-Deal-New-term-3301924.php

 

 

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"Just because we support legalized prostitution doesn't mean we want to live it," - Cato staffer Jonathan Blanks, on the Koch takeover bid (of the Cato Institute).  From The Daily Dish.

 

 

The Koch brothers seem to be so self-empowered, they're like serial killers when they reach that stage of euphoria of thinking they'll never get caught, which is when they start making mistakes. 

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The Koch brothers strike me as a less computer savvy, more despicable version of L. Bob Rife from Snow Crash, in that I think they're trying to foist this awful, festering virus of Koch-conservatism (which seems to attack its targets at the base of the brain stem, ever wonder why their ideas seem so...primitive?) upon the world and their Raft is the Republican party. I just hope they go down in metaphorical flames, too, and we all get pizza afterwards.

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The Koch brothers strike me as a less computer savvy, more despicable version of L. Bob Rife from Snow Crash, in that I think they're trying to foist this awful, festering virus of Koch-conservatism (which seems to attack its targets at the base of the brain stem, ever wonder why their ideas seem so...primitive?) upon the world and their Raft is the Republican party. I just hope they go down in metaphorical flames, too, and we all get pizza afterwards.


Perfect post.  Agree.

 

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Smedley Darlington Butler wrote an excellent short book, "War is a Racket", which explains, in stunningly concise detail, that all war is a function of economics. Even so-called "Holy Wars" such as the Crusades were profit-orientated. 

 

I have a copy somewhere in PDF format. Since it is now out of copyright there are no rights issues involved. If anyone would like a copy PM me.

 

By the way, it's interesting to note that Smedley Butler was not Wall Street's first choice. That dubious honour goes to none other than Douglas "I shall return" McArthur, who gave the offer serious consideration before passing it up in favour of becoming a military commander of such cosmic ineptitude he forced Truman to make quite possibly the greatest decision of his presidency.

 

 

 

 

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