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Mission Impossible 2 aka remake of Hitchcock's Notorious aka Tom Cruise vanity project

post #1 of 23
2/19/12 at 7:51am
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Besides being a completely awful movie, it's a direct rip off of Hitchcock's Notorious, exact same plot, with even some of the same scenes.

 

I don't think I've ever seen a movie so obviously made to show off the lead actor's hair.  It's like a fucking Vidal Sassoon commercial.

 

What happened to the team aspect of the first movie?  With part 2, Woo essentially turned the franchise into a James Bond film, except Cruise has little to no charisma here, which is strange considering he usually sweats the stuff with no effort.

 

And what's with all the silly WWE drop kicks Hunt employs and we essentially never see again in any of the subsequent movies?  Was he testing out a new fighting style?  Again, it seems specifically designed to show off his long, flowing hair.  I don't think I've ever seen an actor so in love with himself while making a movie.  Cruise was pretty much at the peak of his powers here, as this fuck awful flick still went on to make nearly $600 million.

 

It's not that the action is bad, it's that it's pointless and silly.  I understand action movies are there to show off stunts and such, but at least there seems to be some kind of logic behind it.  In this movie everything just seems designed, again, to show off Cruise's fucking hair.

 

I think the only reason I even saw this movie upon release is because Dougray Scott who plays the villain was supposed to be cast as Wolverine in the first X-Men and I wanted to see what we missed.  

 

The icing on the shit cake?  Robert Towne wrote this trash.  Yes, Chinatown Towne.  I wonder how many millions he couldn't say no to.


Edited by Ambler - 2/19/12 at 8:08am
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post #2 of 23
2/19/12 at 1:26pm

I love this movie.  I love it so much.  I love it so much that I have two Facebook albums dedicated to goofy screenshots from the movie.

 

It's so awful.

 

The interviews on the DVD are hilarious.  Robert Towne just sits there with his cigar, proudly sitting back and letting the money roll in.  Cruise keeps saying, "HE'S THE WOO!!!"

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post #3 of 23
2/19/12 at 1:31pm

Story by Ronald D. Moore (Noooo!) & Brannon Braga (well, that makes sense).

 

I tried so hard to watch this film recently & I kept falling asleep. Just awful.

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post #4 of 23
2/19/12 at 1:41pm

Dat hair...

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Dat ass...

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post #5 of 23
2/19/12 at 1:45pm

"The thing is Hugh, I am GAGGING for it."

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post #6 of 23
2/19/12 at 1:55pm
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Originally Posted by felix View Post

"The thing is Hugh, I am GAGGING for it."


ROBERT TOWNE, YEEAAAAH!!!

 

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post #7 of 23
2/19/12 at 2:14pm
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Cruise must have been channeling his Frank Mackey character from Magnolia with all those drop kicks.  I think he filmed MI2 immediately after Magnolia.

 

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"Phil, I will drop kick the fucking dogs if they come near me."

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post #8 of 23
2/19/12 at 2:16pm

"Phil, I will threaten to drop you out of a moving airplane in the next MI film."

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post #9 of 23
2/19/12 at 4:51pm
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Originally Posted by Ambler View Post

Besides being a completely awful movie, it's a direct rip off of Hitchcock's Notorious, exact same plot, with even some of the same scenes.



It steals a hell of a lot from Goldeneye as well, right down to the same annoying car chase flirting scene.

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post #10 of 23
2/19/12 at 5:05pm

Towne at least admits to ripping off Notorious in the special features.  He sounds REALLY proud of that fact.

 

The escape from the virus incubation room is also a REALLY WEIRD lift of the scene from Last of the Mohicans.  So weird...

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post #11 of 23
2/19/12 at 5:07pm
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Originally Posted by Ambler View Post

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"Phil, I will drop kick the fucking dogs if they come near me."


I was pretty high with a friend when we first saw Magnolia. And early on, he made the assertion that Cruise was actually playing Namor the Sub-Mariner. And then when he said this line about the dogs, my buddy goes, "Princeofthedeep! THWACK!" We pretty much laughed for the remaining, I dunno, forty five minutes of the movie. God help me, it was so ridiculous.

 

Anyway, I'm behind on my American Woo. Face/Off and Hard Target were pretty incredible, and Broken Arrow was good, but I've never seen his stuff beyond that, save for a few minutes each of Windtalkers or Paycheck. As a fan of Woo's earlier films, would anyone recommend or rank them?

I just realized that's really only M:I 2, Paycheck and Windtalkers, thought there was more. Anyway, how would anyone rank those three?

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post #12 of 23
2/19/12 at 5:17pm

Holy fuck avoid Paycheck. MI:II and Windtalkers have moments. Windtalkers is less awful and yet so much worse for the simple fact that entertainment can be mined for MI:II's awfulness. Windtalkers is merely mediocre with some decent, if jarringly stagey war action.

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post #13 of 23
2/19/12 at 5:22pm

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post #14 of 23
2/19/12 at 7:11pm

*Gets riddled with bullets in operatic Douglas Sirk meets Sam Peckinpah shootout*

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post #15 of 23
2/19/12 at 7:30pm

"Windtalkers" also has some of the worst stock footage insert shots (usually of the battleships) that I've seen in a studio film.

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post #16 of 23
2/19/12 at 8:50pm

Don't forget Dolph Lundgren's BLACKJACK!!!

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post #17 of 23
2/19/12 at 9:42pm

The movie also has two direct lifts from "Darkman" with the villain using a cigar cutter on someone's finger, and the hero putting two masks on an underling to trick the other villains.

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post #18 of 23
2/20/12 at 12:58am
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Don't forget Dolph Lundgren's BLACKJACK!!!

Has anyone here actually seen this, and how is it?

I may have to inquire in the B-Action thread.
 

 

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post #19 of 23
2/20/12 at 3:10am

Not bad. But thats just me.

 

I recognised a few Woo touches there (e.g White Doves, Classical Music). There's plenty of action as well. The entire film is set is setup like a Pilot to a TV Series though.

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post #20 of 23
2/20/12 at 5:57am

Gabe T, Don't be...Blue, here is my list of American...WOO!

1) Face-Off

2) MI: 2

3) Windtalkers

4) Hard Target

 

I did not enjoy either the Very...Broken Arrow, and John's Paycheck...Bounced!

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post #21 of 23
2/20/12 at 6:30am

I totally agree with you. Perfectly awful movie. Sorry I wasted money on it.

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post #22 of 23
2/21/12 at 1:38am
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Originally Posted by felix View Post

Not bad. But thats just me.

 

I recognised a few Woo touches there (e.g White Doves, Classical Music). There's plenty of action as well. The entire film is set is setup like a Pilot to a TV Series though.

 

It was supposed to be a TV series. USA picked up the movie (pilot) but nothing came of it.  
 

 

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post #23 of 23
2/21/12 at 1:43am
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The movie also has two direct lifts from "Darkman" with the villain using a cigar cutter on someone's finger, and the hero putting two masks on an underling to trick the other villains.



Yeah, and from what I remember there's some other stuff in the first MI that rips off Darkman as well.

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