EVIL DEAD REMAKE STAR SAYS DUMB THINGS, BRUCE CAMPBELL SAYS BETTER THINGS

Weird.  But she's only young.  Obviously confused with ED2 or Aod.  Wonder if she's even seen the original.

 

It's a tough world for actors these days.  On the one hand you have Garfield's "I love Spider-Man" motives being questioned as pandering to fan wank, on the other hand you have this person being labelled dumb because she got her sequels mixed up with the originals.

 

Yes, I think it's dumb, but then she's a gigging actress.  Doesn't mean she had to watch all the flicks growing up, and since it's a whole new bunch of people being terrorised by the book should she have had to anyway?

 

And why do actors in remakes have to respect the source material anyway?  Not everyone has to like everything.  And should they not take a job just because they're not a fan of that genre/original film?  It's a strange one.

 

 

Truth be told, I don't think the first Evil Dead has really held up. It's scrappy and has some clever aspects but DVD and Blu Ray were unnecessarily cruel to that film in regards to REALLY showing us the seams. Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness are still fucking aces, though.

 

I'm not a hater of her but I don't think Diablo Cody is a good pick for a writer at all. Jennifer's Body proved that. I think she's somebody who may like horror but doesn't really have a true understanding of why it works and what you need to do to make it work (see the well-meaning gentlemen from Platinum Dunes).

 

So while I'm rather okay with a remake of the first Evil Dead, the approach isn't doing it for me at all.

 

I don't think she needs to be a fan, but if you aren't familiar with the history of the property you're working on, I'd say limit your comments to what the current film is trying to do versus it's relation to the old one.

 

Good point.  But sadly, part of the human condition seems to be to speak about things one knows little about.  In fact, the less one seems to know the more one seems to pontificate on it.

 

I've already stated my piece about this impending disaster.

Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell overseeing a Ash-less remake with a script co-written/polished by an Oscar winner? I don't really know how this could have turned out any better at this point, gotta be honest.

 

Maybe the movie's absolute Daniel Tosh, but so far, so good, you know? Though from what I hear, the budget is a little high for this sorta thing. As in, more than zilch.

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Sounds like a certain Royal Chewer I've seen round here.
 

 

So this lass is getting geek shit for not knowing enough about the property, Andrew Garfield is getting shit for knowing too much about the property - or for possibly being told to pretend he knew more than he does.

 

Fuckin geeks man. There are real problems in the world we could solve if we stopped focusing on trivial bullshit.

I really still want to champion this remake, because I've only seen a handful of remakes that I outright hate, but the more I read, the more I hate this, and I don't mind the cheap qualities of the first one. I find it cool, and it adds to the charm. I actually hate that on the Blu-ray there's no more Rob Tapert standing near the bridge when they cross it, no obvious matte of the moon. They did make the jump cut to Scotty's resurrection look like a cool Johnny Cage shadow effect, and the hoses are still visibly churning out fake blood, so there's that.

Heh. I was referring to some folk that I used to work with who are fucking me off royally at the moment, but whatever works

All due respect, we should probably close down most of the movie sites on the web if this is your problem.

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Can't ignore this post. Rubs me the wrong way. :(

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I mean... uh... nothing to see here.
 

 

 

Edited by DARKMITE8 - 2/21/12 at 7:09am

She does kinda throw the original under the bus there, like there were probably more diplomatic ways of saying this film will be different from that one; but whatever, that's probably how a lot of younger viewers feel about the original. Like Gabe I'm cautiously optimistic about this project.

This quote is a non issue. The poor girl probably doesn't know her Evil Dead movies from her Phantasms. It's akin to Helen Mirren thinking she saw the Spider-Man costume on the Avengers set. Who cares? I don't need actors to be fans, I need them to do a good job acting.

 

If this movie can capture the spirit and fun of the original series I will be happy. I don't need it to be funny, but I need to to be a fun horror movie experience.

I definitely want it to be fun, if not funny, and that's maybe the only thing that worries me about the quote. I don't want it to fall victim to dour grim n gritty bullshit. But I can't imagine that'd the case with Diablo Cody onboard.

No offense intended. If it's any consolation, I'm positive I will like the original better than this.

 

 

The ED films have a very specific type of charm, wit and humor that I feel is lost unless Raimi directs.  Producing is not directing, it's still all up to the guy looking through the camera and deciding what goes in front of it and how it plays out...and what Raimi decided in the earlier films is extremely specific.  The director here is untested, he made a non narrative CGI reel.  Cody's attempts to alleviate fan fears by saying "it's really violent" is an insult, and leads me to question if she even gets it.  If it works, I'll be pleasantly surprised.  But I'm getting sick of filmmakers and studios preying on fan allegiance to update something and send it in a direction it doesn't need to go.  I feel like the best we'll get is some kind of misguided imitation of the original...a chicken mcnugget version of the real thing.  The ED isn't a superhero franchise.  If Raimi wont direct, just put the fuckin thing to bed. 

 

Edited by Ambler - 2/21/12 at 2:24pm

 

The three strikes against this movie being any good:

 

1. Raimi isn't directing it.

 

2. Diablo Cody is writing it.

 

3. IT'S A FUCKING REMAKE!

 

 

So yeah I'll wait till hits cable before watching it thank you very goddamn much.

double post.

Edited by Ambler - 2/21/12 at 2:20pm

To me, her (admittedly inorganic) dialogue in "Juno" where the characters are discussing Herschell Gordon Lewis gives me more confidence in her getting her hands on Evil Dead than the actual content of her movies.

 

That, and "Young Adult" was THE SHIT. The female response to "Observe And Report."

Diablo Cody is great. And I'm pretty sure she's a big movie geek. Methinks if she didn't have a vagina a lot more people would not only appreciate her work but embrace her in a "one of us" way.

I'm ambivalent about Cody.  She's not bad, but I don't care for her much and fail to see the appeal.

Yeah, that doesn't sound ambivalent.

That's fair enough. I'm not saying the vagina thing applies to everyone who doesn't like or love her, just some people.

 

As for the appeal, to try to put it as concisely as I can it's that her writing is entertaining and clever and backed with genuine insight. She really gets young people. YOUNG ADULT demonstrates she also gets adults, albeit mainly ones struggling with arrested development.

I go back and forth between thinking her work is okay, and not liking it at all.  Lately though it's the latter.  I think if I had to make an overall judgement, I'd say I don't care for her work.

 

Doesn't matter if she has a vagina or not but the hour and half I spent suffering through JENNIFER'S BODY is time I'll never get back.

Johnny Simmons sucks.  Seyfried somehow sucked.  That movie sucks.

Eh, I'm not going to try to fight this uphill battle. Suffice to say I disagree, and feel the film is misunderstood - but maybe I'm wrong about that part.

I was disappointed when I first saw it, but have come around on Jennifer's Body a bit.  It's hardly a great movie, but it has its moments.  The whole thing just never quite comes together.

I don't think it's great either, but it's good. The level of hate directed at it just seems so disproportionate, like "did we watch the same movie?" disproportionate and it makes me wonder where the disconnect is. Is it me? Is it other people? Not sure, but it's weird.

My hate for that movie is totally irrational and unreasonable.  I accept that as a movie it's goodish.  I still fucking despise it.

I really like Jennifer's Body, which was a nice surprise. Juno was pretty good but I doubt I'll ever re watch it and I've only heard good things about Young Adult. But Sam Raimi's directing was such a huge part of Evil Dead that a remake feels like a project made to fail. It doesn't matter who is writing it if it doesn't have the energy behind the lens. A trailer could change things but so far this seems like a bad idea.

My feeling on this, too. What Campbell had to say is slightly encouraging, in the sense that it seems like they're trying to put some kind of creativity into this thing, but this rallying cry of 'darkDarkDARK!!!" makes me worry that they'll just grit out everything that gave the franchise its character. Surely we're over this stupid 'Dark = Good' trend by now?

I've said it before, Joss Whedon already wrote the best Evil Dead reimagining that could ever ever be made.

Which is?

I'm assuming Freeman means Cabin in the Woods. I thought Jennifer's Body was good. It was like an R rated episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Not as good, but in the same ballpark. Yeah, "Moveon.org," was a weak line, but, "I know its true! I read it on wikipedia." was good. I found the indie rock band amusing. They took an ironic approach to satanism.