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post #151 of 2721

I just watched the 4th season on BR, and watched the previous seasons through Instant on Netflix. One question I have is does the show edit out the cursing on the network version, or is everything left in? I know standards are pretty lax nowadays, especially with cable, but find it hard to believe that they would keep a couple of the 'fucks' left in...

 

Really looking forward to season 5 - I'm pretty sure it only took 3 days to get through the fourth season!

post #152 of 2721
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I just watched the 4th season on BR, and watched the previous seasons through Instant on Netflix. One question I have is does the show edit out the cursing on the network version, or is everything left in? I know standards are pretty lax nowadays, especially with cable, but find it hard to believe that they would keep a couple of the 'fucks' left in...

 

The "fucks" aren't in the AMC broadcasts. They aren't replaced by other words. They aren't bleeped. They're just dropped from the audio. I'm pretty sure it's only happened twice in the show's run (one being Skyler's hard-to-forget "I fucked Ted" line.) There's also some brief nudity in the show's pilot that doesn't appear on the AMC version. Pinkman skedaddles from a chick's house, and the girl hangs out of a window. In the DVD version, she's topless. In the broadcast version, she's wearing a (possibly computer-generated) bra.

post #153 of 2721

First three episode titles of S5 released:

 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

1: Live Free or Die

2: Madrigal
3: Hazard Pay

 

 

Interesting that one of those is a copy of a Sopranos episode title. 

post #154 of 2721

Oooh that second one...

post #155 of 2721
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That second title just sent shivers down my spine.
post #156 of 2721

There better be some Mike right up front!

post #157 of 2721

I would be very surprised if the show ends with Walt completely losing his humanity, because from my perspective, that's already happened. He could just do some worse shit, like betraying Jesse or killing Hank or something, but the point has been made by now. 

 

I also think that no matter what happens, in a way, Walt's already won. The entire impetus for the story was his pride and refusal to die like the pathetic little dork he felt he'd become, and he has achieved this goal. He even knows he'll die. So the show can do two things with him now: try to hurt him, by taking away his family, or to let him run wild as the completely mercenary villain he's become. I can't predict anything on this show, but my guess is they'll take away someone he ostensibly cares about more than anything, only for him to realize he doesn't really care at all anymore, if in fact he ever did. 

 

Mostly, I'm worried for Hank.

post #158 of 2721

Whatever happens, yes, we need to see Hank with the metaphorical equivalent of a mountain of cocaine on his desk and his face covered in the shit.
 

post #159 of 2721
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I would be very surprised if the show ends with Walt completely losing his humanity, because from my perspective, that's already happened. He could just do some worse shit, like betraying Jesse or killing Hank or something, but the point has been made by now. 

 

Maybe, but the show is not called Breaking Bad, Up To A Point, Then Maybe Some Limp Redemptive Bit of Business At The Very End.

post #160 of 2721

I seriously doubt Walt is in for any sort of redemption. I think as he solidifies himself as an evil bastard, the show will switch focus and become about those around him (Jesse, Hank, the cartel, Mike and maybe even Saul) trying to stop him. Whether or not they succeed, I think, is the climax of the show. 

 

Did anyone see the teaser near the end of Mad Men tonight? 

 

post #161 of 2721

For a second I thought they we're going to use Morricone's Man with a Harmonica. Oh well.

post #162 of 2721

Yeah.  That.

post #163 of 2721

Walt's at his best when he's all "stay out of my territory" serious.  :-)

post #164 of 2721
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I think Marie is more of a foil to Skylar, like Hank is to Walt.  Marie and Skylar are both thieves and liars, only Marie is small time while Skylar is big time.  But Marie actually seems to have a stronger moral compass than Skylar does, probably because she has Hank in her life as opposed to Walt.  So my belief is her role will be to either save Skylar and bring her back from her descent into criminality, or see how her sister's life is destroyed and turn over a new leaf so she can take care of her sister's kids when Skylar/Walt are in jail/dead/whatever.

 

Anyway, after finishing Season 4, I have some things I need to spitball with some of you hard core fans...

 

First, does anyone have any theory on who Gus was in Chile, and why the Cartel wouldn't kill him because of "who he was?"

 

Will Madrigal Electromotive be the big bad in Season 5?  Since the cartel has been wiped out and Gus is gone, it seems to me there is a big vacuum in the drug trade from the fall of these organizations and ME seems to be the "overlord" of the drug trade.  So either they'll want revenge on Walt for taking down their distribution network in the states, or will want to recruit him for Gus's replacement.

 

Will there be fallout from Gus's death?  My guess is after his dramatic assassination, the DEA will be tearing apart his life and find all the nefarious stuff he was into, which means Hank will be a hero for figuring it out so early and could be the one who stumbles onto Walt's involvement.  Or at least Jessie's.

 

What will Mike do now that Gus is gone?  Mike seemed extremely loyal to Gus.  Will he come after Walt or is he now for hire?  If he does come after Walt, my guess is Walt will somehow use his granddaughter to get to him.

 

Will Walt become more than just a "Cook," or will he take on more of a Gus role and try to fill the vacuum Gus's death left behind?

 

I believe that the prevailing theory (and I want to say Gilligan validated it at some point, but could be making it up in my head) was that Gus had a role in the Pinochet regime.

 

Mike at the end of the day is a pragmatist.  I think that he might get emotional at Walt initially, but he's a smart guy who understands the lay of the land.  Walt will need Mike to truly take over anyhow, Mike knows many of the details of Gus' operation.

post #165 of 2721
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I believe that the prevailing theory (and I want to say Gilligan validated it at some point, but could be making it up in my head) was that Gus had a role in the Pinochet regime.

Here's the quote in the AV Club season walkthrough with Gilligan, which I also illuminates his approach to storytelling:

 

 

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AVC: You don’t plot everything out, but how much do you know about these characters’ backstories? How much did you know about Gus’ history, for instance?
 
VG: I hate to admit it, but surprisingly little. [Laughs.] We have floated ideas about who Gus is. But, oddly enough, we have nailed down very little. And that is, honestly, because I like to keep things open and mysterious. I like to keep our options open. For the same reason we have hinted that Walt’s mom, for instance, is a real character but we haven’t nailed down too many specifics. We’ve gone so far as to never even show a photo of her or let the audience know where she lives. I guess it, in some neurotic fashion, is me wanting to keep my options open. And also my philosophy that these characters, or characters in general, are sometime more interesting the less you know about them so you, the viewer, can create some of the backstory for yourself. 
 
All through episode eight, Gus Fring is not wanting people to know about his background. He apparently has some backstory that’s deep and dark and allows him to avoid getting killed at the end of episode eight, but we’re wondering this whole time, “Who is this guy? Who was he in Chile? What is he trying to hide?” To be honest, we haven’t quite nailed that down. It has something to do with the Pinochet government, we think, but that’s about as close as we’ve gotten. At the end of the day, try not to nail down anything that we don’t have to. 
 
AVC: How did you come by this thought that characters are more interesting the less you know about them?
 
VG: I guess from watching movies, from being a viewer and a consumer myself. I think back about how I was intrigued by what was in the suitcase in Pulp Fiction. Throughout that movie, there is this very important MacGuffin or dingus or whatever the Hitchcockian term would be. But there’s this plot element of this very important suitcase that John Travolta and Samuel Jackson are carrying around, and everyone is intrigued by what’s inside it. People get a glimpse of it, but they never nail down what’s inside it. I find that intriguing. I enjoy it when I’m given by the creator of a show or a movie all the elements that will keep me interested in the story, but leave a few aside so I can do a little of the work myself. I enjoyed that kind of storytelling and I want to tell those kind of stories myself.
post #166 of 2721

Badass cast portraits just released:

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post #167 of 2721
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Art!  But to paraphrase Spaced "It's like the internet is full of psychic poster hunters".


Sold out already

 

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post #168 of 2721

I don't know why, but quotes like that always leave me feeling a bit disappointed.  It may be nerdy and fanboy-ish, but I like to at least hold onto the illusion that a show's creators aren't "making it up as they go along."  (At least, not entirely).  I guess it doesn't matter in the end if they manage to tell a good story, and not everything has to turn into a mythological cluster-fuck like Lost, but I prefer to think that when they start making sly intimations about a character's past (as in Gus' case), they at least have some (substantive) idea what they're talking about.

 

One thing I've always wondered about backstory-wise, for instance, is the Gretchen & Elliott situation.  A lot of people have told me I'm crazy and that it's never gonna be brought up again, but I really hope they finally get into that this year.  At the same time, though, I wonder if there's even any point, if the creators themsevles don't know what the story is, and whatever we get in the end will be something they whipped up at the last minute.  I've always suspected that story contains a big piece of the puzzle as to why Walt is the way he is, and why his station in life was what it was when we first met him at the beginning of season one.  But how can that be, if the whole thing is just a big ? the writers decided to throw at the screen, for shits and giggles or whatnot?   

post #169 of 2721

It sounds a little arrogant of me to compare myself to Vince Gilligan, but I've written long-form narratives on a couple of occasions with only a rough outline of where I was going, and you'd be ASTOUNDED at how often things snap into place when the time comes. It takes a lot of work, of course, and you can sometimes box yourself into a bit of a corner, but the mere fact that a writer doesn't have all the details worked out means nothing. I don't know if your subconscious does all the work or whatever. But I guarantee you, even the tightest Swiss watch of a narrative (and Breaking Bad has seemed as close to that as TV gets so far) had a lot of improvisation along the way.
 

post #170 of 2721
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"Scared of what?"

 

post #171 of 2721

OOOooooo that gives me goose bumps...not to mention it gives me hope that we'll finally see that Skyler/Jesse Pinkman exchange where she sits him down and demands to know all the dirty secrets of Heisenberg. 

 

"You know, when we first met, I was hiding a body that your husband created." 

post #172 of 2721
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OOOooooo that gives me goose bumps...not to mention it gives me hope that we'll finally see that Skyler/Jesse Pinkman exchange where she sits him down and demands to know all the dirty secrets of Heisenberg. 

 

"You know, when we first met, I was hiding a body that your husband created." 

 

I would be so happy if that scene played out exactly as you say. So happy. 

post #173 of 2721

I have watch only 4 Seasons of this show.so i don't say about 5 season.First 4 seasons is soo awasome.

post #174 of 2721

Huh?  There have ONLY been 4 so far, 5 is coming up. rolleyes.gif

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post #176 of 2721

Thinking about buying a puppy and naming him Heisenberg

post #177 of 2721

Mike:

 

post #178 of 2721

Oh goodness gracious I appear to have soiled myself.

post #179 of 2721
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gibber gibber gibber gibber

post #180 of 2721

JUST HOOK IT TO MY VEINS

 

I'm marathoning the previous seasons to prep for the 15th.  I gotta say, rewatching this is HARD.  Somehow knowing what's coming just makes things more tragic, especially in regards to Jane and Gale.

post #181 of 2721

I had to start a rewatch too.   The 15th looks sooooo far away right now.

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post #183 of 2721

I don't know who Fraser is, but given how decidedly non-Hispanic she looks, I'm guessing she is going to be Gus's liaison to the German manufacturing consortium that has been alluded to a few times.  What that portends for Walt is anyone's guess.

post #184 of 2721

I'm guessing it has something to do w/ Nazis.  Or David Hasselhoff.

post #185 of 2721
I'll save my rewatch for next summer, which is a decision I've reached with quite a bit of struggle. I'm going to let 2013 be the epic year of Breaking Bad and just satiate myself with the new season for now. Ive had to take measures, such as finally getting around to Band of Brothers, to prevent myself from just digging in from the start. I mean, it's right there on Netflix.
post #186 of 2721

I am now officially caught up. July 15th is much too goddamned far away. The fact that I'm even considering starting over, just to do it armed with the knowledge of whats to come for these people, is the greatest testament to how great this show is.

 

Seriously, though, I've seen clips of the first season again while going through Season 4, and I swear, I don't recognize the people in it anymore.

post #187 of 2721
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I had to start a rewatch too.   The 15th looks sooooo far away right now.

Great blog :)

 

Looking forward to the recap, and the take on the new stuff.

 

Wonder if Fraser will keep her Scottish accent, or be some other European.

 

Two weeks.  So near, yet so far.

post #188 of 2721

The 15th.

 

The 15th.

 

The 15th.

post #189 of 2721

Just got back from a trip to NYC, and they had "Hail to the King" posters in every subway station and at least one bus was decked out with it.  It made me happy every time I saw it.

post #190 of 2721
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Great blog :)

 

Looking forward to the recap, and the take on the new stuff.

 

More stuff for you.

post #191 of 2721

I have Dish, and wouldn't you know it with "Breaking Bad" right around the corner they've dropped AMC. Dammit.

post #192 of 2721
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More stuff for you.

 

gold.  Also, the "Official Walt Jr Breakfast Count" shouldn't make me laugh as much as it does, but damn if that's not the epitome of "it's funny because it's true"

 

:)

post #193 of 2721

EW.com has the first 90 seconds after the cold open up for viewing.  I don't want to click it!  Take it away!

post #194 of 2721
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I have Dish, and wouldn't you know it with "Breaking Bad" right around the corner they've dropped AMC. Dammit.

 

I want to say that I'm surprised that Dish Network is continuing their streak of stupid decisions, but I walked into a Blockbuster Video last week and it caused me to spend all my 'surprise at Dish Network's business ineptitude' reserves early.

post #195 of 2721

As someone without cable at all, Amazon Instant Video will be my provider for this season of Breaking Bad as it was for this last season of The Walking Dead.  The episodes get dispensed a day or so after the initial airing, but, better than nothing.

post #196 of 2721
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I have Dish, and wouldn't you know it with "Breaking Bad" right around the corner they've dropped AMC. Dammit.

 

In the same boat. Got an email from them asking me to call to find out alternative ways to watch AMC shows. They basically just said Breaking Bad could be viewed through Amazon, then knocked $25 off my next bill as some sort of downloading credit.

 

They also sent an email with 2 PPV certificates. That email didn't mention this AMC mess, was more of a "Thank you for blah blah blah" but I'm sure it's no coinkidink.

 

In short, call and see what freebies you can get.

post #197 of 2721

Walter Jr. only eats breakfast twice! and other, less shocking revelations about season 3.

post #198 of 2721

Loving your recaps dude.

post #199 of 2721

Lots of spoilery goodness in the latest trailer...

 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

Jesse diving in front of Mike's gun (!)

Saul: "The police may call..."

Hank: "This Heisenberg... he's a ghost."

Walt with hair and a beard!

Mike: "Do you even know what you've done?!"

 

 

 

!!! AHHH!!

post #200 of 2721

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