Breaking Bad - Season 5 - Page 6

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Originally Posted by Bluelouboyle 

I'm weak at the knees for Norris. Which show was it and can you download it?

It was the Dan Patrick Show.  I'm pretty sure you can download episodes from his site.  Somebody was filling in as host, and the Norris interview was at the very end of the show.  He's a good interview which is why I couldn't make myself change it.

In loving memory of Hector "Tio" Salamanca

Schwartz, that's some outstanding stuff.  Excellent analysis and thought provoking, as well.  Addintionally, it had me recounting various scenes that I just plain forgot about it.  Sunday night cannot come fast enough.

Also, I never thought of the possibility of Brock spilling beans about what happened to him.  I'm not sure how that passed me over, but it's a very real possibility.  I'm sure Walt was relatively careful about the poisoning, but I also agree that Jesse finds out through some deductive reasoning.

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Originally Posted by MaxYumTime 

 

Also, I never thought of the possibility of Brock spilling beans about what happened to him.  I'm not sure how that passed me over, but it's a very real possibility.  I'm sure Walt was relatively careful about the poisoning, but I also agree that Jesse finds out through some deductive reasoning.

Walt must have insulated himself somehow, if only because I think he was far gone enough to finish the kid off if it was a question of ID'ing him.  But that's not the type of detail I expect the show to gloss over, as it's always been incredibly exacting in showing how every lie Walt tells worms into every other aspect of his life.  Would anyone have grumbled if they didn't examine how the fugue state story affected his position at the high school?  No, but the show went there anyway.  I doubt that Brock could provide a sketch artist a description of Heisenberg, but it won't take too much to arouse Jesse's suspicions.  If Brock wasn't poisoned with ricin, isn't it just a huge coincidence that his cigarette disappeared the day the kid decided to graze on some berries?  If Walt is smart, he'll try to convince Jesse that Gus did have the cigarette stolen and slipped the kid the berries, since he just needed Jesse momentarily mad enough to greenlight Walt's murder.  Ricin poisoning is unusual enough to draw attention (as we saw when Jesse gets picked up for mentioning it), and why create a murder investigation when there doesn't have to be?  That seems to fit Gus's MO, at least enough for Jesse, who has always deferred to Mr. White as the expert on scheming.

But I don't expect that Walt will be much smarter in smug victory than he is in flailing desperation.  I expect his preening to be really cringe-worthy, and to push Jesse away again with a quickness.

The Brock poisoning thing still irks me.  I sure as shit hope they just move forward and don't show us how Walt was able to get all that done without a hitch, cause my suspension of disbelief was already stretched too thin there.  So much had to go exactly right for his plan to work to his advantage.

Yes, but it was a Hail Mary play.  It helps to keep in mind that the writers don't necessarily think of it as an airtight bit of Machiavellian genius, but the best Walt could improvise under a tremendous amount of pressure.

Yeah Schwartz, these are awesome. I look forward to reading your writeups for season 5.

Your predictions are pretty good too, I'd say. I wouldn't be surprised if the first thing we saw this season was a Gus flashback.

Awesome.  Just awesome.

Man, the audio commentaries for Season 4 are fantastic.  It's always a group, they always have something to say, an anecdote to relate or a joke to tell and they have great chemistry.

Especially the part where they were cheering on Ted during his big moment.

I had to post this again.  This time there are 16 reviews up.  Meta score?..........still 100.  Word up.  I never thought anything could come close to my favorite show of all time, The Wire, but this show is damn close right now.  Season 5 could potentially push it to #1.

http://www.metacritic.com/tv/breaking-bad/season-5/critic-reviews

FYI, Season 4 will start on Netflix this Sunday, so if you know someone who's eager to catch up, let them know.

Fantastic as always, Schwartz. Really looking forward to your season five reviews!

My prediction? Marie finds out before Hank. Simply because its way more interesting, has way more possibilities, and may result in a hilarious Marie/Jesse/Mike scene. "Yo, why's everything in your house so purple?" 

Precisely my reasoning.  And you guys are too kind.  

I knew I should've bought the actual S4 discs instead of downloading.  Gilligan is a great interviewee and the cast seems like it would be a lot of fun on commentaries.

Does anyone know if the DVD commentaries are new & original recordings or material from the awesome podcasts?

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Originally Posted by Menlo Park Rat 

Does anyone know if the DVD commentaries are new & original recordings or material from the awesome podcasts?

They're scene-specific. I never listened to the podcasts but these seem to have been made for the DVDs.

And yeah, they're great. Cranston is so much fun to listen to, not to say there aren't a whole lot of other laughs going on. And Gilligan is really bad remembering names.

Marie... although I think it sucks because she's one of the few characters along with Walt Jr to not get fully fleshed out.

Huell... is not going to make it. :(

I've always imagined a scene where Hank catches Walt, but hesitates because he's fundamentally a caring guy... Walt does not hesitate.

So I'll say Hank.  In episode 8.

My money is on Hank.

This 10 minute recap was essential for me.

As for the deadpool, the show is too unpredictable, therefore I say no major deaths in the first 8 episodes.

Any other show I'd say Marie, but for this show it's a bit too obvious. I mean, then her entire character simply becomes a motivation for Hank to take down Walt, and that's really too easy a road to go on. Much more interesting to keep her in the mix. 

What I'm really hoping to get is a flashback showing Bill Burr and Huel go through some season-one-esque body disposing hijinks with Ted. 

I want the whole thing!

29 hours and ticking...

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Originally Posted by Bluelouboyle 

Walt ice Mike? Never gonna happen.

I'll bet you one hundred Chud dollars it does!!

There's "unpredictability" and then there's inherent dramatic conflicts that are likely to play themselves out.  Since the show "should" come down to Walt and Jesse resolving their relationship in whatever violent, tragic way it's going to play out, the other conflicts must come first, if they're going to come at all.

I've avoided this thread till now.  I just caught up with season 4...

HOLY FUCK

I don't even know where to begin.  What an amazing season.  The path that Walter White has taken is just so unexpected and so damn bloody brilliant.  His descent into evil (lets be honest, pure and simple he is a bad guy now) has been a fascinating character study.  I'll get this out of the way...there are a lot of holes in the Brock poisoning that even I had questions about after finishing the season finale an hour ago.  What happened to the ricin cig?  How the hell did Walt pull it off?  Granted, I agree it was a hail mary but I hope the show does explain a bit of the "how he did it" later on.

I think my favorite thing of all season though was when Walt went to get the money to pay off the guy for the new identities and just starts laughing maniacally when he realizes he is just completely and utterly fucked since Skylar gave the money away.  The way he was laughing in the background as Skylar was on the phone with Marie...brilliant.

Its funny because in the last 4 months I have been catching up to this show, I look back on my takes on both characters and I realize my perception is now completely different.  Initially I loved Walt and hated Jessie's self destructive nature, but now I am almost abhorred at the depths Walt will go to "to win" and I am once again sympathetic to Jessie's inner moral compass and need to atone for the things he's done (Bravo Schwartz on the analyses, I totally agree with you)

In my mind, this show is one of the top 5 of all time at this point and there is only one character in TV that even comes close to rivaling Walter White and thats Vic Mackey.

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I don't even know where to begin.  What an amazing season.  The path that Walter White has taken is just so unexpected and so damn bloody brilliant.  His descent into evil (lets be honest, pure and simple he is a bad guy now) has been a fascinating character study.  I'll get this out of the way...there are a lot of holes in the Brock poisoning that even I had questions about after finishing the season finale an hour ago.  What happened to the ricin cig?  How the hell did Walt pull it off?  Granted, I agree it was a hail mary but I hope the show does explain a bit of the "how he did it" later on.

 

Huell replaced the cigarette pack in Jesse's pocket when he patted him down, and Saul got a hold of Brock's school schedule to do the poisoning. Both things are pretty clear on rewatch. Whether it was Saul or Walt who did the actual dead, I'm not sure yet.

I know I shouldn't make these kinds of calls since the show loves to fake people out, but I believe Marie won't die because she has a role to fill: she's there to look after Holly (and possibly Walter Jr.) after Walt and Skylar cack it. They've been foreshadowing this pretty heavily for a while now--her childlessness (despite clearly wanting children), and that one line where she tells Skylar "you can leave her with me forever, that'd be fine with me." I know, I know, I shouldn't read too much into this, but I honestly think this is something the writers have deliberately laid out for the ending. And I know the tendency is to assume the show will end with the characters all dying via a murder-suicide pact and Albuquerque being devoured by Shub-Niggurath, the Goat With A Thousand Young, but that's kind of over the top. I'm sure SOMEONE on this show will get a happy ending, and Holly has to be on top of that list, even above Walter Jr. Which means there has to be someone to look after her, and since Walt and Skylar are extremely likely to get cacked...
 

I can't see Walt killing Mike, if, for any other reason, it robs the series of a showdown between Hank and Mike.

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Huell replaced the cigarette pack in Jesse's pocket when he patted him down, and Saul got a hold of Brock's school schedule to do the poisoning. Both things are pretty clear on rewatch. Whether it was Saul or Walt who did the actual dead, I'm not sure yet.

the huell thing i could see...I think the Saul stuff is just assumption on stuff that happened behind the scenes...

In the final episode there's actually a close-up of Saul's secretary shredding a school-schedule.

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Originally Posted by cognizant 

This 10 minute recap was essential for me.

 

As for the deadpool, the show is too unpredictable, therefore I say no major deaths in the first 8 episodes.

That recap is pretty good for remembering the big plot points.  That plus this video

basically has me at maximum hype right now.

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Originally Posted by Fazer 
I think my favorite thing of all season though was when Walt went to get the money to pay off the guy for the new identities and just starts laughing maniacally when he realizes he is just completely and utterly fucked since Skylar gave the money away.  The way he was laughing in the background as Skylar was on the phone with Marie...brilliant.

Don't forget that music.  Holy shit, I don't think I've ever been that unsettled by the soundtrack to a TV show before.

In fact, you could write pages upon pages on the music for Breaking Bad and why it's so great.  The score, the licensed stuff... so perfect.

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In the final episode there's actually a close-up of Saul's secretary shredding a school-schedule.

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD.

wow.  i cant believe i missed that.  WOW.

JESUS CHRIST

WOW

Somebody set Fazer to stunned.

I mean it just gave me a newfound appreciation for the writing and the directing and the editing and the fucking everything.

Even my one nitpick was already addressed.  Thanks Evi.

Man, I am fucking PUMPED for tomorrow

Holy shiiiit this show.  Just finished the S4 finale, this has been quite a ride.  Gonna be torture watching week to week now but bring it on.  This thread should help though, I had a great time reading through the season 4 thread while watching those episodes.

I picture you reading through the comments, cackling at every prediction we got wrong. Especially that long page or two of "There's no WAY Walt poisoned Brock." 

And The Prankster is right...that does seem to be the best possible fate for Marie. Which is why I  don't think little Holly is gonna make it....would the show go there? To have a baby get caked (a term I had no idea existed before, Prankster, but I already love it)?

Given everything else up to that point, I still don't understand how people could have thought the poisoner was anyone other than Walt. It was a natural progression.
 

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I picture you reading through the comments, cackling at every prediction we got wrong. Especially that long page or two of "There's no WAY Walt poisoned Brock." 

 

And The Prankster is right...that does seem to be the best possible fate for Marie. Which is why I  don't think little Holly is gonna make it....would the show go there? To have a baby get caked (a term I had no idea existed before, Prankster, but I already love it)?

It's actually "cacked", but honestly, I would love it if hitmen started "caking" their victims.

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It's actually "cacked", but honestly, I would love it if hitmen started "caking" their victims.

The problem with that is some Hollywood hack writer will have a mob boss tell a henchman, "Let them eat cake."  And then we all groan and spend 700 posts making fun of Spiderman.

"MAGNETS!"

The Juggalos were right.

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"MAGNETS!"

 

The Juggalos were right.

But now I know how they work.  Batteries on the other hand...

ETA : Jesse is toast in my not so humble opinion.