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I just wrote an exhausting post about this subject, and the disparity of income and education in the South, both amongst minorities and majorities, but by the end of the fifth paragagraph I just couldn't hit "post reply".

My love of the region I was born in has nothing to do with 'Southern Pride', and everything to do with the poverty that (some) of my family has managed to overcome. It's deeply personal, and hard to explain, especially for a bedwetting libtard who had to use an outhouse until he was six years old and joined the Navy at 19 after dropping out of art school.

Of course I'm ashamed of some of my neighbors. I imagine we all are. 

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Of course I'm ashamed of some of my neighbors. I imagine we all are. 

Yeah, everyone is ashamed of your neighbors.  They're Southerners aren't they?

I'm kidding.  And I apologize if anything I said before agitated anyone.  I honestly was joking, but I do find myself despairing at the people who surround me  in Arkansas/Louisiana much more often than when I lived in other places.

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Of course I'm ashamed of some of my neighbors. I imagine we all are. 

This is absolutely true, in my experience.  I'm from a predominately white, yuppie, New England town in Connecticut.  We have about five christian churches in town.  One Catholic, one Episcopalian, one Baptist, and two Congregationalist/Protestant.  We also have a fairly sizable Jewish population in town.  I'm not religious.  Catholic upbringing, current atheist, but growing up, it always struck me as odd that my Jewish friends had to go two towns over for temple or Hebrew school.  A few years back, there was a proposal to build a Synagogue in town, and man... it was met with the most fierce opposition this town had ever seen to anything, all couched in supposed "zoning issue" dog whistles.  Fucking Walmart moving in was not met with this much resistance, so yeah...  People suck everywhere.

Also, I've lived all around the country, and the one place I have the fondest memories of is Savannah, Georgia.

Three years after moving south, the most picturesque Southern Folk I ever befriended our group of Apartment socializers.  Within 2 nights, I started to hear that friends that were atheist didn't deserve to live as they served no purpose, and how Democrats were ruining the US.  I ignored the comments as they were mostly said while drunk, but within a month the racial slurs started.  We were all white, but I have never said things like they did, and never will.  I don't hate anyone and if I do it has nothing to do with color or status.

They moved 2 months later and tried to keep in contact.  I didn't.  The girl shot and killed her fiance 1 month later.  That is what I think of when I think of the radical right.  It just happened they were the ideal southern image and they will always mar my memory of what that means.  

I do believe assholes are everywhere, and the generalizations sometimes fit, but nowhere is there a place for hatred based on opinions.

Zimmerman's medical records leaked.

I'll be more impressed when we see how much of that matches with the EMT report from the night before.

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I just wrote an exhausting post about this subject, and the disparity of income and education in the South, both amongst minorities and majorities,

This is one of the largest social ills of our day. While I won't go so far as to say that racism, sexism, and any -ism will be eliminated, they will be greatly reduced as education and increase and poverty decreases.

When is that going to be again Diva?

When someone reanimates Lyndon Johnson.

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When someone reanimates Lyndon Johnson.

He'll have a hard time up against Zombie Reagan...

Okay that is legitimately terrifying.

Did I say Lyndon Johnson? I meant Hal Linden.

"My fellow Americans, Zombie Reagan says that it's 'Morning In America'. Well I say that it's 'Miller Time In America'!"

"BARNEY Miller Time."

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He'll have a hard time up against Zombie Reagan...

 

By the way, stop giving Seth Grahame-Smith book ideas.

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Originally Posted by Bailey 

Okay that is legitimately terrifying.

That's only because you're looking at it.

See, I think it's looking at me.

Zombie LBJ wants brains.....

Okay... okay, we're derailing a serious topic with silliness again.  I'm shutting up now.

(But I blame you, Art.)

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Originally Posted by Diva 

 

This is one of the largest social ills of our day. While I won't go so far as to say that racism, sexism, and any -ism will be eliminated, they will be greatly reduced as education and increase and poverty decreases.

I know you're right but there are people out there whose life blood depends on large amounts of the population  remaining poor and ignorant.....and they spend alot of money and will go out of their way to keep said populace that way.  This is a generational fight.

Once again the Zimmerman injuries are being treated as some kind of "gotcha!" moment, as if instigating a confrontation with an unarmed kid and getting punched is an excuse for shooting them.

True Story: Last night I'm ironing by shirt and pants for work and watching TV. A commercial comes on for a local insurance agent located across the river in Follansbee WV. The agent is going through his reasons why customers should choose to deal with his small town firm...personal service....we know you bla-bla-bla. The agent then says something that totally smacked me in the back of my brain. He says "You will never have to dial #1 to speak to someone in English. We promise". I stood there like WTF.

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Once again the Zimmerman injuries are being treated as some kind of "gotcha!" moment, as if instigating a confrontation with an unarmed kid and getting punched is an excuse for shooting them.

Yeah, the right is loving that.  Take it away Fox News comments! http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/15/records-detail-george-zimmerman-medical-injuries/#comment

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Originally Posted by EdBighead 

True Story: Last night I'm ironing by shirt and pants for work and watching TV. A commercial comes on for a local insurance agent located across the river in Follansbee WV. The agent is going through his reasons why customers should choose to deal with his small town firm...personal service....we know you bla-bla-bla. The agent then says something that totally smacked me in the back of my brain. He says "You will never have to dial #1 to speak to someone in English. We promise". I stood there like WTF.

That is a plus for those of us who have had to call for customer service and been unable to communicate with the person on the other end of the phone.  I had deaings with one CSR with a guy with the obviously false name of "Joseph" who was more likely a "Jugdesh" or "Mohammed" in a faraway land. It is a straightforward expectation when one calls for customer service to actually be able to communicate with the CSR. In my own experience, it was just not a minor inconvience. Having worked in a major university with a very high international student population for nearly twenty years, I am accustomed to people with English fluency issues. That being said, I was forced to disconnect without successfully conducting my business becasue the CSR's language skills were so poor. 

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That is a plus for those of us who have had to call for customer service and been unable to communicate with the person on the other end of the phone.  I had deaings with one CSR with a guy with the obviously false name of "Joseph" who was more likely a "Jugdesh" or "Mohammed" in a faraway land. It is a straightforward expectation when one calls for customer service to actually be able to communicate with the CSR. In my own experience, it was just not a minor inconvience. Having worked in a major university with a very high international student population for nearly twenty years, I am accustomed to people with English fluency issues. That being said, I was forced to disconnect without successfully conducting my business becasue the CSR's language skills were so poor. 

The issue is not that you shouldn't expect to speak to someone who communicates in your language. You absolutely should. But some people are so butthurt over the idea that there are people in this country whose primary language is not English, that they recoil at the idea that they should have to press a number on a keypad. The idea that non-English speakers might need insurance makes them angry.

Seriously, it really bothers some people.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/DONT-PRESS-ONE-FOR-ENGLISH/120445114646047

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Originally Posted by TCD 

Zimmerman's medical records leaked.

 

 

I'll be more impressed when we see how much of that matches with the EMT report from the night before.

Where's the chain of evidence in this situation? We need independent and unbiased medical examination rather than a biased report. Of course that's not going to happen.

Fun with facts!

From WFTV in Florida:

From MSNBC:

Yeah WFTV, sounds like a real nasty beating.

Also, at about the 1:19 mark in the video on the sidebar here, you can see the text of Zimmerman's medical report, which reads in part as follows:

Which means the following two statements:

... are lies.

So, "shot from an intermediate range". They really should clarify that language.
 

Journalist interview author on Florida gun laws; shows that in Florida, down = up

Warning shot = illegal. Killing a person = legal. >_<

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Originally Posted by Diva 

Journalist interview author on Florida gun laws; shows that in Florida, down = up

 

 

 

Warning shot = illegal. Killing a person = legal. >_<

I don't even...

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I just wrote an exhausting post about this subject, and the disparity of income and education in the South, both amongst minorities and majorities, but by the end of the fifth paragagraph I just couldn't hit "post reply".

 

My love of the region I was born in has nothing to do with 'Southern Pride', and everything to do with the poverty that (some) of my family has managed to overcome. It's deeply personal, and hard to explain, especially for a bedwetting libtard who had to use an outhouse until he was six years old and joined the Navy at 19 after dropping out of art school.

 

Of course I'm ashamed of some of my neighbors. I imagine we all are. 

I've lived in all four corners of this country.  Seattle, New York, Los Angeles and Orlando (and Atlanta and a small town in South Carolina, where I was born).  The south has a very particular form of ignorance you don't find in other places...it's a blissful kind of ignorance that almost makes you not take it seriously.  But it can feel stifling at times and it's why I prefer not to live in the south.  I find America in general to be kind of sadly backwards.  My best experiences have been abroad and in meeting foreigners who visited America.  I may end up moving out of the country in the next 10 years.

Autopsy shows Trayvon had THC in his system; rational people say, "so what?"

Breaking: New Evidence, Including Photo of Zimmerman the Night of the Shooting:

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Originally Posted by Diva 

Autopsy shows Trayvon had THC in his system; rational people say, "so what?"

A teenager with THC in his system?!

Clearly he was a violent criminal.

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Originally Posted by Diva 

Autopsy shows Trayvon had THC in his system; rational people say, "so what?"

Hey come on, THC is a known performance enhancement granting the user super strength, speed and agility...

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Breaking: New Evidence, Including Photo of Zimmerman the Night of the Shooting:

Take a long, hard look, people.

This is a photo of a man who had recently received a severe beating.

It's a miracle he survived.

I've said it a million times here and elsewhere, but it bears repeating- if some dude comes after me when I am not breaking any laws and minding my own business, and he's armed, and I have the opportunity to fuck him up before he maybe kills me, I'm going to do so.  And I think most other people would too. We still have no idea how threatening Zimmerman was, how much he provoked Martin, and these photos do not prove the guy's life was in danger in the slightest.

Hey, maybe we should see some photos of Trayvon after the incident?

Oh, that's right...

When I logged on, my msn page is the first thing that comes up. One of the headlines was, Martin shooting avoidable. No shit Sherlock!

Yeah this is going to end well. 

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raging fascist white supremacist bullshit

Please forgive this outburst, fellow chewers.

Before your inevitable banning may I just say you pathetic hate-filled pre-programmed supremacist cipher to seriously consider drawing a nice hot bath and opening up a few veins or at the very least look into medical sterilization as you are in all honesty a walking breathing example of everything that's wrong, fucked-up and broken with us as an entire species.

You unhappy accident you.

I can;t be bothered reasoning or arguing or debating your 'points' because frankly, I'm guessing if you were twice as smart, you'd still be a fucking dumbarse.

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 marxist-liberal-zionist

This is the best bit.  You might as well say the steam-water-ice groups are working together to fuck the white man, or the international consortium of polar bears-leopard seals-killer whales.

Everyone's a'gin whitey!

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Originally Posted by TCD 

 

Take a long, hard look, people.

 

This is a photo of a man who had recently received a severe beating.

 

It's a miracle he survived.

The link has a lot of new and interesting evidence, including a shot of the back of Zimmerman's head, which looks a little worse (but not as bad as anyone on team-Z claim), as well as the answer to where Martin's cell phone was.

It's looking more and more likely that the person calling for help before the shooting was Zimmerman, and that Martin was hitting Zimmerman before the shooting. 

However, one witness admittedly is convinced that there was no shooting before the gunshot, which is pretty damning. Also, the police have a statement in their report that says "the incident could have been avoided if Zimmerman remained in his car as instructed." 

The "crying for help" thing is very much still up in the air. At least one audio expert has staked his reputation on it not being Zimmerman, by comparing Zimmerman's voice on the earlier 911 call and then the cries for help. I think he took a few shots from Trayvon, but he clearly wasn't in a fight for his life.
 

I agree it's up in the air, but evidence is evidence, and this is what the case is going to be made on. If they have testimony of Trayvon's father claiming it wasn't his sons voice crying for help when listening to the 911 call, they're going to beat that shit like a fucking drum.

On the other hand, they also have testimony from the lead Standford police investigator that states he wanted to arrest Zimmerman for manslaughter the night of the shooting (which begs the question, why didn't you)?

Yeah, because people with weed in their system are incredibly violent.

And very forgetful? :P

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Hey come on, THC is a known performance enhancement granting the user super strength, speed and agility...

 

Banned the racist fuck. Hoping he gets eaten by wolves. Black wolves.

I missed all the fireworks.  All I see are the charred remains of Rain Dog scraps and a Jake termination.

A former colleague of George Zimmerman has come forward to tell his story of being bullied and tormented by constant racist jokes at work.

How does someone become this way?  I grew up thinking racism didn't exist, except between large Italian families and everyone else (that was the only race/ethnicity split in my small town).  His whole family should be ashamed of what he has become.