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post #301 of 7710
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Originally Posted by yt View Post

He's like a racist combination of Dwight Schrute and Travis Bickle.*


...and his theme music would be alot less Bernard Hermann and alot more ICP.

 

post #302 of 7710
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Originally Posted by Ambler View Post

Here's what I think happened.  Zimmerman approached Martin and initiated some kind of confrontation that escalated.  Zimmerman shot Martin out of panic which was unnecessary since it was merely a street altercation that would've ended like most of them; both guys walk away with their pride and faces a little damaged, but still alive.  But Zimmerman's vigilante like attitude and firearm gave him a false sense of purpose.  Zimmerman then exaggerated his "Trayvon almost killed me, I feared for my life, he was bashing my head, what if he went for my gun, etc etc" story, when it was just a simple fight, because he knew he'd fucked up by killing somebody.  But he could get away with it because his dad was a judge who'd gotten him out of his violent altercations in the past.  And it was dark so people will believe a black guy with a hoodie out at night is up to no good and he was Captain of the (supposed) neighborhood watch trying to protect the neighborhood.  



One wrinkle I would add to this narrative is that during the altercation and susbsequent shooting, Zimmerman remained under the impression that Martin was up to no good. It's my belief he thought that once the cops showed up Martin would be searched and/or investigated and found to be a criminal of some kind. At that point all he has to do is claim he was in a fight for his life, and had shot Martin in self-defense. The cops see a dead criminal on the ground. Case closed. But now that it turns out Martin is innocent of any wrong-doing, Zimmerman's story falls apart. His life-or-death battle with a dangerous thug reveals itself to be a minor scuffle with an innocent teenager walking home from the store.

post #303 of 7710
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Originally Posted by Art Decade View Post


...and his theme music would be alot less Bernard Hermann and alot more ICP.

 


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Do I look suspicious?

 

post #304 of 7710
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Originally Posted by TCD View Post


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Do I look suspicious?

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by TCD View Post


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Do I look suspicious?

 

Yes.  But if he tries anything, just toss a can of Faygo one way, and run the other.

 

Why I'm still subjecting myself to righty blogs, I don't know, but they are currently reveling in false equivalency of pointing out cases of white on black violence, crowing that "This case didn't get national attention, thus, media bias protecting blacks."  

 

All missing the point that in every case, the shooter was arrested, tried and convicted.


 

 

post #306 of 7710
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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post

 

 

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Did you just use a picture from Star Trek Voyager to make a point? I may have to Stand My Ground on this one, as you are obviously doing something wrong. Give me your address so I can follow you around for a couple of weeks before I "encounter" you.

post #307 of 7710

EMS tapes show Zimmerman did not sustain injuries in encounter with Trayvon

 

 

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Paperwork detailing the EMS response to the shooting scene shows that a call for a second ambulance was canceled.

An audiotape containing the EMS communications, also obtained by The News on Friday, records unidentified workers discussing the scene.

Zimmerman’s condition is mentioned briefly in the 30-minute recording.

“Do we have a second patient?” a man asks.

“That’s affirmative. We have a second patient,” a woman replies. “The second patient is not a gunshot.”

 

post #308 of 7710

Maybe it's just me, but that's an odd headline. Of course he didn't "sustain fatal injuries", the asshole is still alive. Anyhoo, I think Rachel Maddow put the shape of the discourse in the country the best in an unrelated interview. I'm paraphrasing, but the point was that in years past it seemed that we could agree on the facts, but disagree on what they meant, nowadays we have people working off of their own set of "facts" so there is no median.

 

We should just let loose every sanitarium resident, because frankly, who's to say that they aren't Jesus Christ newly arrived from Mars and that the only reason they were kept from cannibalizing their mother's brains was because the evil insect gods in black helicopters rebooted the Matrix?

post #309 of 7710
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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny View Post

We should just let loose every sanitarium resident, because frankly, who's to say that they aren't Jesus Christ newly arrived from Mars and that the only reason they were kept from cannibalizing their mother's brains was because the evil insect gods in black helicopters rebooted the Matrix?


that would make for a damn interesting TV show....someone get HBO on the phone.

 

post #310 of 7710

That sounds more like a Fox show, honestly.

post #311 of 7710

No, that's definitely Showtime material.

post #312 of 7710

Shit, I've got a bidding war on my hands. Time to get fucking paid! There won't be enough coke and hookers in Vegas for my contract signing party. Outsource!

 

 

post #313 of 7710

I think Team Zimm is just so desperate to argue with what is considered the enemy-- "liberals/blacks/common sense" that they will snap their collectve spines bending over backwards to contort logic and common sense to win the argument for their side. Every thing in their minds these days is literally us vs them.  Arguing for their side, even to the point of saying 'don't rush to judgment", seems ridiculous at this point.

 

The one point Team Zimm keeps bringing up is why was this punk out at 3 am walking around. Wasn't it more like seven pm?

 

Now, that being said, what kind of evidence would it take for people arguing that Martin was the victim to change their collective minds on what happened? Or are folks currently in such a rabid frame of mind that nothing short of video showing Martin body slamming Zimm to the ground and bashing his head in with a brick would change anyone's opinion? 

post #314 of 7710
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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post

That sounds more like a Fox show, honestly.

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Originally Posted by Whiteboy Jones View Post

No, that's definitely Showtime material.


well, if you REALLY think about it.... ReelzChannel

 

in a deep voice..."Steven Segal is Jesus Christ...."

 

post #315 of 7710

Don't you guys get it? If Zimmerman goes down all the rest of the crackers will be restrained from killing Black people for no reason! And what kind of a world will we have then?

post #316 of 7710
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Originally Posted by Dr Vivisector View Post

Now, that being said, what kind of evidence would it take for people arguing that Martin was the victim to change their collective minds on what happened? Or are folks currently in such a rabid frame of mind that nothing short of video showing Martin body slamming Zimm to the ground and bashing his head in with a brick would change anyone's opinion? 


to some, that still wouldn't be enough....."the video was totally edited and doesn't show the whole story...."

 

as JkJ mentioned....these days, 'facts' are no longer to be believed unless they justify your opinion.

 

post #317 of 7710

Forensics experts say voice screaming for help on the 911 call did not belong to George Zimmerman

 

Am I the only one starting to get the impression that maybe Zimmerman's version of events is a complete pile of shit?

post #318 of 7710
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Originally Posted by TCD View Post

Forensics experts say voice screaming for help on the 911 call did not belong to George Zimmerman

 

Am I the only one starting to get the impression that maybe Zimmerman's version of events is a complete pile of shit?


Yeah, every day he seems more and more guilty.

post #319 of 7710

Finally...Spike does the right thing:

 

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Spike Lee settles with elderly couple over misguided George Zimmerman tweet

 

The couple’s attorney, Matt Morgan, announced the settlement Thursday. Morgan says Lee called them to apologize for retweeting their address. Specifics of the settlement weren’t disclosed.

 

“He was really kind,” Elaine McClain said. “And when he called us, you could just tell he really felt bad about it. And it was just a slip, and I just know that he really, really has been concerned.”

 

source: EntertainmentWeekly

post #320 of 7710

He kind of had too. I'm sure he does feel awful and embarrassed about it, but any lesser response would have been as inadvisable as the original action. Either way, I think he needs to bow out of the spotlight for a while, at least as far as this case is concerned.

post #321 of 7710
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Originally Posted by Cylon Baby View Post

Don't you guys get it? If Zimmerman goes down all the rest of the crackers will be restrained from killing Black people for no reason! And what kind of a world will we have then?



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post #323 of 7710

Crazy uncle update!  

Posted this lovely picture this morning with the caption "Just saying."

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I don't even think I have the strength to point out how blatantly racist this all is, not to mention the fact that these people have clearly gone to jail over this crime, which invalidates it as an apt comparison. I just give the fuck up. Go and be racist you racist fuck. I'm ashamed I'm related to you.

post #324 of 7710

Whoo hoo, open season on black people!

post #325 of 7710

I love the implication that we never hear about black on white crime in this country, or black crime it all. It's just one big, massive cover-up. Yeah.

post #326 of 7710
Seems that case was a pet cause for dopey racist lunatics 5 years ago, especially self-loathing dingbat Michelle Malkin. The crime was truly horrific though, just nothing to do with race. Hell, even the father of one of the victims told these racist trolls to fuck off.
post #327 of 7710

We've all heard the phrase, there are two sides to every story. In this case no there isn't!

post #328 of 7710
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Crazy uncle update!  

Posted this lovely picture this morning with the caption "Just saying."

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I don't even think I have the strength to point out how blatantly racist this all is, not to mention the fact that these people have clearly gone to jail over this crime, which invalidates it as an apt comparison. I just give the fuck up. Go and be racist you racist fuck. I'm ashamed I'm related to you.



I know you're related to him, but holy shit your uncle is a fucking moron.  Even if this case was exactly like the Treyvon Martin case where the police let these individuals go (like that'd happen), THAT STILL DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT WHAT HAPPENED TO MARTIN!!!  The fact that there seems to be a whole bevy of people who fail to understand that is horrifying.

 

I should just move to Canada.

post #329 of 7710

Every hyperbolic cracker-ass reaction to this case makes me wish that I was Sweet Sweetback.

post #330 of 7710

So much for racism being over and reverse racism being real and worst.

post #331 of 7710

Like I said, this case is doing wonders for spring cleaning of family and friends.  

post #332 of 7710
Heated discussion between Piers Morgan and Toure over Morgan's interview with Zimmerman's brother:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6Z0vBfu-Po
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post #334 of 7710

I'd like to know what Coulter's much better blacks think about this.

post #335 of 7710

 

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Originally Posted by Dr Vivisector View Post

The one point Team Zimm keeps bringing up is why was this punk out at 3 am walking around. Wasn't it more like seven pm?

 

Unless the NBA All-Star game has radically changed from year's past, yes.

post #336 of 7710
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Originally Posted by MikeI View Post

 

Unless the NBA All-Star game has radically changed from year's past, yes.



And even so...how is when he was out even relevant to this case?  Hell, I've out and about past twilight hours--guess that makes me suspicious.

post #337 of 7710

This whole investigation as to if the kid was remotely suspicious makes me so angry.  The clothes, the time of day, his school record, his facebook account, if he ever had weed, what he ate for fucking dinner... none of that means anything, yet it gets attention like it's the fucking Zapruder film.  Was he breaking any laws at the time of the confrontation?  No.  Was he the instigator of the confrontation?  No.  Was he on Zimmerman's property?  No.  Did Zimmerman have any authority to question what he was doing?  No.

 

To what degree Zimmerman is guilty (first degree murder, or some other kind of wrongful death) is the only thing that is relevant.  There are not two sides.  The kid was literally minding his own business in a free fucking country.

post #338 of 7710
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This whole investigation as to if the kid was remotely suspicious makes me so angry.  The clothes, the time of day, his school record, his facebook account, if he ever had weed, what he ate for fucking dinner... none of that means anything, yet it gets attention like it's the fucking Zapruder film.  Was he breaking any laws at the time of the confrontation?  No.  Was he the instigator of the confrontation?  No.  Was he on Zimmerman's property?  No.  Did Zimmerman have any authority to question what he was doing?  No.

 

To what degree Zimmerman is guilty (first degree murder, or some other kind of wrongful death) is the only thing that is relevant.  There are not two sides.  The kid was literally minding his own business in a free fucking country.


He committed the horrible sin of being born black.  I feel like in the back of so many racist right winger's minds is: "the only good nigger is a dead nigger!"

post #339 of 7710
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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post

This whole investigation as to if the kid was remotely suspicious makes me so angry.  The clothes, the time of day, his school record, his facebook account, if he ever had weed, what he ate for fucking dinner... none of that means anything, yet it gets attention like it's the fucking Zapruder film.  Was he breaking any laws at the time of the confrontation?  No.  Was he the instigator of the confrontation?  No.  Was he on Zimmerman's property?  No.  Did Zimmerman have any authority to question what he was doing?  No.

 

To what degree Zimmerman is guilty (first degree murder, or some other kind of wrongful death) is the only thing that is relevant.  There are not two sides.  The kid was literally minding his own business in a free fucking country.



This.  Trayvon, not Zimmerman, was subjected to a drug test.  Sanford, Florida puts the victim on trial, as Ambler said, because he's black.  And the right's outrage over "reverse-racism" is team mentality gone horribly awry.  Everything about this case, both the environment that allowed it to happen and the aftermath, constitute s***t this country has to start talking about.  It's just insanely tragic that this kid had to die for it to happen.

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post #341 of 7710

Enhanced video shows Zimmerman may have marks on the back of his head!

 

http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-case-video-shows-injury-george-zimmermans/story?id=16055412#.T3n6ELHB9I4

 

Clearly this means Trayvon had to die.

post #342 of 7710

Well that changes everything, shoot the little bastard!

post #343 of 7710

Funny how they don't do the same trick to show the supposed broken nose Zimmerman claimed Trayvon gave him.  

post #344 of 7710

Honestly, will the US learn anything from this incedent or will the partisan sides simply go back to shouting at each other until the next inident that highlights how hopelessly divided and socially broken modern America has seemingly become?

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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog View Post

Honestly, will the US learn anything from this incedent or will the partisan sides simply go back to shouting at each other until the next inident that highlights how hopelessly divided and socially broken modern America has seemingly become?


My guess? That second one.

post #346 of 7710

For what its worth my own nation is in a much deeper state of denial about its racist undertones and bigotries (we have this quaint notion seemingly that there's no such thing as soft racism - it's only racism if you're overtly abusing people or burning crosses on their lawn or something) - hell we even had race-based riots in Sydney a few years back and learned less than nothing from them.

 

It's depressing.

post #347 of 7710

I don't get how any wounds on Zimmerman can be seen as mitigating - of course there was some kind of scuffle, Trayvon was confronted by an armed man who was following him for no reason. The fact that, five weeks after the event, the only evidence we have of any injuries to Zimmerman is a grainy video that may or may not show a cut on the back of his head is damning enough. Why weren't these supposed wounds domcumented photographically at the time as evidence? Oh, but there was have those massive police failings again.

 

Bottom line, regardless of wounds/broken noses/mysteriously clean t-shirts, the police let Zimmerman because Zimmerman said he didn't do anything wrong. That's a fucked, broken system.

post #348 of 7710

I mean, it's relevant to the case, in the sense that it can mitigate the severity of the charges leveled at Zimmerman.  But it's not relevant to the issues and circumstances surrounding the case.  However the confrontation went down, Zimmerman instigated it, while armed, against an unarmed kid who was not breaking any laws.  Even if Martin has some responsibility for the thing devolving into violence; well, frankly, he's dead.  So he already got way more punishment than he could have ever possibly deserved.  Yet people are still intent on blaming him, while ignoring that there's no possible way the majority of the blame shouldn't fall on Zimmerman. Whether he's a cold blooded murderer, or just a moron who got in over his head playing Dirty Harry... he still belongs in jail.

post #349 of 7710

So this fucktard has taken it upon himself to post every "Black on White" crime he can find on his Facebook page and is asking people to share them in a misguided attempt to expose the media bias in crime reporting. What he fails to see is that in EVERY single one of those crimes, the perpetrator was caught and arrested. It baffles me that people don't understand why Trayvon's case is gaining media attention. It's not that its a "White on Black" crime. There are millions of jailed or dead Black people that refute the theory that they get special treatment. Trayvon's case is getting attention because a boy got shot and the murderer is walking free nearly 6 weeks later. There is enough evidence to question Zimmerman's story. He should at a minimum be charged, he can make bail, and get his due in court. But the fact that this man is walking free while a kid was killed for "Walking while Black" means that there is no "justice for all" in this country. Every person - White or Black - should be outraged about this.

post #350 of 7710

Ahh, public profiles. Can you imagine, that guy has no black facebook friends?

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