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post #7501 of 7679

Haha you people get triggered by pretty much anything. 

 

I also read The New Republic: guess that makes me a Communist too. 

post #7502 of 7679

Michael Savage and the New Republic are entirely different beasts. I'll tell you right now that I don't actively listen to anyone who is wholly hostile to my belief system as a human being, which Savage is. That doesn't necessarily mean that I believe in living in an echo chamber, as guys like Sam Seder tend to say stuff that I disagree with from time to time, but I don't listen to people whom I do not respect on some level. If you do respect Savage on some level, then yes, I find that to be rather disturbing considering who he is and what he stands for.

 

The closest "progressive" version of Savage I can think of at the moment is Jimmy Dore, who is an unhinged misogynist and conspiracy theorist who actually glommed onto some Conservative conspiracy theories about Clinton to support his hatred of her (She's dying! She murdered Seth Rich!).

post #7503 of 7679

Yeah he is perhaps the strangest addition to The Young Turks.

post #7504 of 7679

He didn't use to be that way, or at least I never noticed it until we were deep into the race and he connected to Bernie and started openly losing his fucking mind.

post #7505 of 7679

Everything is terrible and racist right now so have a heraldic dolphin: 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/03/nyregion/yale-calhoun-college-grace-hopper.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

post #7506 of 7679

A Sikh politician was berated by a woman in Canada because she thought he was a Muslim.  He handled it about as well as humanly possible:

 

https://twitter.com/BettyBowers/status/906539936542871552

post #7507 of 7679

Man that video is awful to watch, but I applaud Mr. Singh and his staff for taking the high road in handling that evil harpy.

post #7508 of 7679
I have mad respect for the fact that he was conscious enough not to deflect by correcting her assumption that he was Muslim.
post #7509 of 7679
He could worked it in covertly like "Ma'am, I am really Sikh and tired of dealing with this hatred".

Okay, alright, I'm done here.
post #7510 of 7679
boooooooo!!!!
post #7511 of 7679

Hey, in the past week I've refrained from letting loose some pretty awful jokes, like straight turds. I have to let a few slip lest I suffer fecal impactment. 

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Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
 

Great reporting on drug usage:

 

http://www.cincinnati.com/pages/interactives/seven-days-of-heroin-epidem

It's like a Heroin Nuke went off in this area. The amount of people hooked on the stuff is insane.

post #7514 of 7679
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Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
 

Great reporting on drug usage:

 

http://www.cincinnati.com/pages/interactives/seven-days-of-heroin-epidemic-cincinnati/

 

Quote:
 One of the medics takes a drill out of his bag and turns it on. It whirs like a dental drill as he pushes it into the man’s shin bone, trying to create a more direct path for the naloxone to enter the bloodstream.

 

WTeverlovingFUCK?!?!

post #7515 of 7679

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/homeless-man-asked-woman-to-move-porsche-so-he-could-sleep-then-she-shot-him-police-say

 

If she thought her life was in danger she could've, you know, just driven away.

post #7516 of 7679
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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny View Post
 

I'll tell you right now that I don't actively listen to anyone who is wholly hostile to my belief system as a human being, which Savage is. 

 

Savage is insane. Races right past evil and manipulative and craters into tin foil hat territory.

post #7517 of 7679
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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny View Post
 

Michael Savage and the New Republic are entirely different beasts. I'll tell you right now that I don't actively listen to anyone who is wholly hostile to my belief system as a human being, which Savage is. That doesn't necessarily mean that I believe in living in an echo chamber, as guys like Sam Seder tend to say stuff that I disagree with from time to time, but I don't listen to people whom I do not respect on some level. If you do respect Savage on some level, then yes, I find that to be rather disturbing considering who he is and what he stands for.

 

The closest "progressive" version of Savage I can think of at the moment is Jimmy Dore, who is an unhinged misogynist and conspiracy theorist who actually glommed onto some Conservative conspiracy theories about Clinton to support his hatred of her (She's dying! She murdered Seth Rich!).

 

Well if you want to understand where people who disagree with you are coming from, you should listen to them on occasion.

 

If you simply want to "cast them out" or you think you understand their reasoning just fine, well OK. 

 

That I listen to guys like Savage or Limbo, or read The Nation or The New Republic, does not constitute and endorsement of any of them. Nor does it imply I "respect" them. 

 

I parse what they say for insights or information I don't get from the Washington Post, Wall Street Journal or Politico. 

post #7518 of 7679

That's just it. I know where Savage and Limbaugh and all the rest are coming from. It's not like I've never heard their stuff. Once you've listened to a half dozen racist, homophobic, misogynistic, xenophobic, and/or conspiratorial ravings from any of them, the mask is off the Phantom Creeper, Scooby-Doo.

post #7519 of 7679
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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny View Post
 

That's just it. I know where Savage and Limbaugh and all the rest are coming from. It's not like I've never heard their stuff. Once you've listened to a half dozen racist, homophobic, misogynistic, xenophobic, and/or conspiratorial ravings from any of them, the mask is off the Phantom Creeper, Scooby-Doo.

 

Oh Sure, their "base" beliefs (see that?) are well known and you don't need any refreshers. 

 

I do listen to Limbo for insights into what the "Establishment GOP" and "semi Alt Right" are thinking, how they are messaging to their people, how they interpret what's going on in the news and current events. As an almost double major in History and Poly sci, that stuff fascinates me. And he does offer insights and analysis that you don't get on Meet The Press. 


With Savage, he will of course go off about key issues, but there's a lot of his show that's him talking about New York City in the 50's, his impressions of San Francisco now (which I have to admit often align with my own experiences), and he'll do stuff like quote extensively from Medieval Chinese poets. 

 

When they start on about stuff where I know what they'll say or it offends me, I turn it off. 

 

Similarly, there's stuff I read in The New Republic or The Nation which I find disturbing or offensive, and when a threshold is reached, I stop reading. 

 

What I'm saying is, I'm aware and (I think) smart enough to take what I want from news/entertainment (and that's what these outlets are, whatever they claim to be) and leave out what I don't want or like. 

post #7520 of 7679

Interesting angle to some of the other conversations we're having about redemption and what it takes to make amends on the boards, and if anyone can ever be truly redeemed: 

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/13/us/harvard-nyu-prison-michelle-jones.html

post #7521 of 7679
Quote:
“We didn’t have some preconceived idea about crucifying Michelle,” said John Stauffer, one of the two American studies professors. “But frankly, we knew that anyone could just punch her crime into Google, and Fox News would probably say that P.C. liberal Harvard gave 200 grand of funding to a child murderer, who also happened to be a minority. I mean, c’mon.”

I think this quote from that article sums up Harvard's position really well. It's a Catch 22 for them when it comes to public relations and the PR of a major university is really important since donations from wealthy private donors make up a sizable chunk of their budget. They decided that they'd loose less money from those donors on the negative press generated by refusing her application than they would lose if those same donors found out their money was being used to fund an African American woman who was convicted for the 2nd degree murder of her own 4-year-old son.

As for my own opinion on the subject of forgiveness and rehabilitation, I do believe people are capable of permanently changing for the better, but I also think that too many people out there confuse forgiving with forgetting. Forgiveness can be an amazing thing, but it doesn't erase the past.
post #7522 of 7679
If the internet is any indicator, nobody is confusing the two. Forgiveness does not exist and the past is etched in 1s and 0s forever.
post #7523 of 7679

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jason-stockley-ex-st-louis-officer-found-not-guilty-killing-n801626

 

 

St. Louis Protests Turn Violent After Ex-Officer Acquitted in Killing of Black Man

post #7524 of 7679

This man will be a senator:

 

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/351194-roy-moore-refers-to-red-and-yellow-americans-in-campaign-speech

 

Quote:

Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore, one of two Republicans competing in a primary runoff next week, appeared to use racially insensitive terms to describe Native Americans and Asians during a campaign speech on Sunday.

 

Moore, a former chief justice on the state Supreme Court, lamented divisions between Americans based on race, mentioning “reds and yellows." 

 

“We were torn apart in the Civil War — brother against brother, North against South, party against party. What changed?” Moore asked in footage provided to The Hill by a Republican monitoring the race.

 

“Now we have blacks and whites fighting, reds and yellows fighting, Democrats and Republicans fighting, men and women fighting. What’s going to unite us? What’s going to bring us back together? A president? A Congress? No. It’s going to be God.”

 

Moore's campaign told The Hill the remarks were taken out of context.

post #7525 of 7679
He's not too bright, but I see that he was going for a "lyrical" color scheme and just didn't think how fucking wrong that would come off.
post #7526 of 7679
I don't recall ever hearing about animosity between Native Americans and Asian Americans. I think this Moore fella may be talking out his ass.
post #7527 of 7679
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Originally Posted by Jmurdoch View Post

I don't recall ever hearing about animosity between Native Americans and Asian Americans. I think this Moore fella may be talking out his ass.

Guess you never saw Shanghai Noon. 

post #7528 of 7679

https://twitter.com/tonyposnanski/status/910461065179299840

 

 

 

She's in the South Dakota House.

post #7529 of 7679
What a fucking idiot.
post #7530 of 7679

So, we all better start accepting Dungeons & Dragons terminology or... the Klan's ranks will grow?  Am I getting this right, Google Guy?

 

 

 

post #7531 of 7679
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Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
 

So, we all better start accepting Dungeons & Dragons terminology or... the Klan's ranks will grow?  Am I getting this right, Google Guy?

 

 

 


Yeah, I don't get that either. I mean if people are being pushed into the KKK because of that...? Guaranteed they only need a little push.

post #7532 of 7679
look

I just want to be a grand wizard
post #7533 of 7679

you can't

you know why? 

 

you didn't pay the application fee in time.

post #7534 of 7679
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Originally Posted by Ska Oreo View Post
 


Yeah, I don't get that either. I mean if people are being pushed into the KKK because of that...? Guaranteed they only need a little push.


Sadly there are people that are shallow enough to be swayed by such superficial nonsense, or at least shallow enough that it's another layer that can tip them from "on the fence" to "pro."

post #7535 of 7679

So in the midst of this kerfluffle over National Anthem protests and whatnot:

 

NASCAR has said they will totally fire anyone that protests during the national anthem, and their reasoning is pretty much literally "because 'Murica!."  Way to really knuckle down on reinforcing the stereotypes about this particular "sport" NASCAR (FYI: There have been a grand total of four black NASCAR drivers over the course of it's history).

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/ct-nascar-national-anthem-protest-donald-trump-20170925-story.html

 

Meanwhile, I'm reading on facebook that NFL players didn't even "officially" have to come out on the field for the National Anthem until 2009, when it became part of a push by the Department of Defense to boost recruitment.  A push that involved paying millions of dollars to the NFL for "patriotic displays" (though it's unclear if the practice of having the whole team on the sideline for the Anthem was a direct result of these payments):

 

https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/yp89dj/stephen-a-smith-points-out-nfls-paid-patriotism-problem

 

http://www.snopes.com/nfl-sideline-anthem/

post #7536 of 7679

Yup. The DOD has been politicizing and militarizing the whole of professional sports since the Gulf War, but it really kicked into high gear after 9/11 and the invasion of Iraq. I'm trying to remember if MLB and the NBA have gone along with it quite as much as the NFL has, though. I said this in the main Trump thread, but I think a lot of it has to do with lingering guilt by Boomers over Vietnam. 

post #7537 of 7679
You'd think a nation of fatasses would be happy to have one less thing to stand up about.
post #7538 of 7679
NHL though, people care about hockey right???
post #7539 of 7679
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Originally Posted by Munson View Post

NHL though, people care about hockey right???

That's Canada. Never go to war or disrespect Canada during Hockey season.

 

Seriously, want to take Trump down a peg, NFL players?

Go on strike until the Trump publicly apologizes.

Thats it. No football games, no championship, no entertainement for the masses until Trump publicly, and on record, apologizes.

I bet he would buckle down under the pressure in record time.

post #7540 of 7679
It has more bearing than you'd think. The Penguins have to decide whether or not to visit the White House.
post #7541 of 7679
They are going. Hockey can fly under the radar. Tort's threatened to bench anyone who sat during the anthem at the stupid World Cup last year.
post #7542 of 7679

Video at the link:

 

http://abcnews.go.com/US/man-removes-nazi-swastika-tattoos-friendship/story?id=49496501

 

Quote:

Colorado resident Michael Kent recently sat down at a tattoo parlor in Colorado Springs to have his swastikas covered up.

 

Kent, a former neo-Nazi, credits an African-American parole officer named Tiffany Whittier with helping him to see beyond skin color and changing his views about white supremacy.

 

“If it wasn’t for her I would have seeped back into it,” said Kent. “I look at her as family.”

 

Whittier, 45, even inspired Kent, 38, to take down the Nazi flags he had hanging in his living room and replace them with smiley faces.

 

“I’m not here to judge him. That’s not my job to judge. My job is to be that positive person in someone’s life,” Whittier said.

 

Added Kent, “When you wake up and see a smiley face, you’re going to go to work and you’re going to smile.” 

post #7543 of 7679

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/snafu-bar-nfl-jersey-doormat-kaepernick_us_59cd0d5fe4b03b0879cfd913

 

A bar in Missouri (of course) puts down a pair of jerseys on their sidewalk... Marshawn LYNCH next to Colin KAEPERNICK.

 

In their responses to people calling them out for being a racist piece of shit, you can actually see them go through every option in the, "Make people think you're not really a racist, without actually stopping being racist" playbook.

 

"I did it on purpose - I'm a vet and he disrespected me first!"

 

"Free speech means you can't call me on being an asshole no matter what I say!"

 

"It was just a coincidence. If you see something ugly there, maybe YOU'RE the racist, hmm? HMM?!?"

 

Ah, Missouri. The state that heard all the jokes about how racist Texans are, and got jealous.

post #7544 of 7679
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Originally Posted by ryoken View Post
 

Seriously, want to take Trump down a peg, NFL players?

Go on strike until the Trump publicly apologizes.

Thats it. No football games, no championship, no entertainement for the masses until Trump publicly, and on record, apologizes.

I bet he would buckle down under the pressure in record time.

 

I would be more concerned about CTE than anything Trump had to say.

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post #7546 of 7679

Protests still ongoing in St. Louis:

 

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/protesters-arrested-after-blocking-highway-include-pastor-state-rep/article_be681e7d-db87-5754-8799-12406397ccb0.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share

 

Quote:

Police took 143 people into custody Tuesday night after a group of protesters blocked the eastbound lanes of Highway 40 (Interstate 64) at Kingshighway and charged them with trespassing.

 

That's the highest number of arrests at once since protests began Sept. 15 over the not-guilty ruling in the murder case against former city patrolman Jason Stockley.

 

The roadway Tuesday reopened shortly after 8 p.m., when the demonstrators got off the interstate at the Jefferson Avenue exit. The arrests came as the protesters began marching north on Jefferson Avenue.

 

Protesters were nearing Market Street when they were met by a police line and they moved onto the sidewalk.

 

The protesters chanted: “We don’t see a riot here. Why are you in riot gear?” and “Touch one, touch all.”

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post #7548 of 7679

The more things change.....

post #7549 of 7679
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post

look

I just want to be a grand wizard
"Wait....so I don't get to learn spells and fight Balrogs and stuff? It's just mostly scheduling lynchings and keeping inventory of crosses to be burned and whatnot? Well, EFF THAT!"

I don't understand how someone who is outed as affiliated with the KKK these days isn't just automatically made a social pariah. Well.....probably because in the south a whole shit load of them are the so called "pillars of the community" types but still...it's 20-goddamn-17. Fuck Birth of a Nation..
post #7550 of 7679
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Originally Posted by Fraid uh noman View Post


"Wait....so I don't get to learn spells and fight Balrogs and stuff? It's just mostly scheduling lynchings and keeping inventory of crosses to be burned and whatnot? Well, EFF THAT!"

I don't understand how someone who is outed as affiliated with the KKK these days isn't just automatically made a social pariah. Well.....probably because in the south a whole shit load of them are the so called "pillars of the community" types but still...it's 20-goddamn-17. Fuck Birth of a Nation..

As if that means fuck-all nowadays. It's becoming more and more obvious that these views are being tolerated, or straight-up encouraged, by a large amount of people--just don't you dare call them a racist!!!

 

Because that's the world we live in: where actual racists get mad because you call them a racist.

 

Jesus Christ.

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