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Frank Rich has an insightful story on the GOP's problem with women, where it comes from and where it's going:

 

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Stag Party

The GOP’s woman problem is that it has a serious problem with women.

By Frank Rich

 

At the time, back in January in New Hampshire, it didn’t seem like that big a deal, certainly nothing to rival previous debate flash points like “9-9-9” and “Oops!” But in retrospect it may have been one of the more fateful twists of the Republican presidential campaign. The exchange was prompted by George Stephanopoulos, who seemingly out of nowhere asked Mitt Romney if he shared Rick Santorum’s view that “states have the right to ban contraception.” Romney stiffened, as he is wont to do, and took the tone of a men’s club factotum tut-tutting a member for violating the dress code. “George, this is an unusual topic that you’re raising,” he said. “I know of no reason to talk about contraception in this regard.” The partisan audience would soon jeer the moderator for his effrontery.

 

Afterward, Romney’s spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom accused Stephanopoulos of asking “the oddest question in a debate this year” and of having “a strange obsession with contraception.” It was actually Santorum who had the strange obsession. He had first turned the subject into a cause in October by talking about “the dangers of contraception in this country.” Birth control is “not okay,” he said then. “It’s a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.”

 

As we know now, Santorum, flaky though he may sound, is not some outlier in his party or in its presidential field. He was an advance man for a rancorous national brawl about to ambush an unsuspecting America that thought women’s access to birth control had been resolved by the ­Supreme Court almost a half century ago.

 

The hostilities would break out just weeks after the New Hampshire debate, with the back-to-back controversies of the White House health-care rule on contraceptives and the Komen Foundation’s dumping of Planned Parenthood. Though those two conflicts ended with speedy cease-fires, an emboldened GOP kept fighting. It had women’s sex lives on the brain and would not stop rolling out jaw-dropping sideshows: an all-male panel at a hearing on birth control in the House. A fat-cat Santorum bankroller joking that “gals” could stay out of trouble by putting Bayer aspirin “between their knees.” A Virginia governor endorsing a state bill requiring that an ultrasound “wand” be inserted into the vagina of any woman seeking an abortion.

 

It’s not news that the GOP is the anti-abortion party, that it panders to the religious right, and that it’s particularly dependent on white men with less education and less income—a displaced demographic that has been as threatened by the rise of the empowered modern woman as it has been by the cosmopolitan multiracial male elites symbolized by Barack Obama. That aggrieved class is, indeed, Santorum’s constituency. But, as Stephanopoulos was trying to get at when he challenged Romney, this new rush of anti-woman activity on the right isn’t coming exclusively from the Santorum crowd. It’s a phenomenon extending across the GOP. On March 1, every Republican in the Senate except the about-to-flee Olympia Snowe—that would be 45 in total—voted for the so-called Blunt Amendment, which would allow any employer with any undefined “moral” objection to veto any provision in health-care coverage, from birth control to mammograms to diabetes screening for women (or, for that matter, men) judged immorally overweight.

 

After the Blunt Amendment lost (albeit by only three votes), public attention to the strange 2012 Republican fixation on women might have dissipated had it not been for Rush Limbaugh. His verbal assault on a female Georgetown University law student transformed what half-attentive onlookers might have tracked as a hodgepodge of discrete and possibly fleeting primary-season skirmishes into a big-boned narrative—a full-fledged Republican war on women. And in part because Limbaugh pumped up his hysteria for three straight days, he gave that war a unifying theme: pure unadulterated misogyny.

 

The GOP Establishment didn’t know what to do about Rush. Conservatives had tried to make the case that the only issue at stake in the contraception debate was religious liberty—Obama’s health-care czars forcing religiously affiliated institutions (or more specifically Catholic institutions) to pay for birth-control coverage (which 98 percent of sexually active American Catholic women use at some point, according to the Gutt­macher Institute). But the Obama administration had walked back that rule in a compromise acceptable to mainstream Catholics, including the Catholic Health Association. So what was Rush yelling about now except his own fantasies (videos included) about this young woman’s sex life?

 

The right’s immediate solution was simple: The best defense of Rush was a good offense. He was guilty mainly of a poor choice of words (as he himself said in his “apology”) and so was really no different from Bill Maher, Ed Schultz, and Keith Olbermann, among other liberal hypocrites who had used “slut,” “whore,” or worse to slime Republican women. It was an entirely valid point—and also a convenient distraction from Virginia’s vaginal wands, Congressman Darrell Issa’s all-male panel, ­Foster Friess’s aspirin-between-the-knees, and that ugly Blunt business in the Senate.

 

The whole thing is worth reading at New York Magazine

post #2 of 19

As someone who considers himself a pretty staunch member of the European Right I fucking detest the GOP. That whole party, their "moderates" included makes me sick to my stomach. At this point I'll take Marxists instead of Republicans.

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I don't know.  This feels staged to me to prove that Fox women are independent and on the side of the women or something?  It just doesn't gibe.

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No matter how you interpret it, it's ugly, ugly stuff.

 

"She needed a shower anyway."

 

Hey-oh!  Can someone please pour acid on that dude, or something?

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how about this.....

 

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Michigan State Representative Silenced By GOP For Saying ‘Vagina’

 

Michigan House Republicans blocked a state representative from speaking on the floor on Thursday after she referenced certain parts of female anatomy in a speech on an abortion bill.

 

“Finally, Mr. Speaker, I’m flattered that you’re all so interested in my vagina, but ‘no’ means ‘no,’” Rep. Lisa Brown (D) said to cap her remarks in which she expressed stark opposition to a series of bills regulating abortion, including one that would ban the procedure after 20 weeks unless the woman’s life was in danger, according to The Detroit News.

 

House Republicans called the remarks over the line and barred her from participating in a subsequent debate on education.

 

“It was so offensive, I don’t even want to say it in front of women,” one state representative said. “I would not say that in mixed company.”

 

But Brown was defiant, accusing her colleagues of trying to censor her with their sensitive take on acceptable decorum.

 

“If I can’t say the word vagina, why are we legislating vaginas?” Brown said at a press conference. “What language should I use?”

 

A second lawmaker, Rep. Barb Byrum (D), was also gaveled down after introducing a bill that would require men to prove that their life was in danger before they were allowed to receive a vasectomy.

 

“I was ignored by the majority floor leader and not allowed to speak on my amendment, which would have held the same standards for men and women when it comes to legal, voluntary procedures in reproductive health, and now I am being silenced for standing up for women,” Byrum said, according to the Detroit Free Press.

 

 

it would only be appropriate to say...the Michigan GOP are a bunch of dicks!
 

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Originally Posted by VTRan View Post

how about this.....

 

 

“It was so offensive, I don’t even want to say it in front of women,” one state representative said. “I would not say that in mixed company.”

 

He went on to say, "and they're completely glossing over the cootie issue!"

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Originally Posted by yt View Post

 

I don't know.  This feels staged to me to prove that Fox women are independent and on the side of the women or something?  It just doesn't gibe.


It "gibes" perfectly. Most of the assholes on Fox don't believe the shit they spew. I imagine once in a while it gets to be too much for them. But being on the channel and spouting propaganda gets them fame and fortune, so they always come back.

post #9 of 19
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Completely agree that he's vile and Gretchen Carlson was right to walk out but I've seen her say heinous thing directed towards women too. I hop she really was offended.

And the Michigan thing is ridiculous. I don't know how this anti-women fever started but it's scary.
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Isn't the current GOP just the latest iteration in a very very long line of the patriarchys determination to control and contain the female of the species?

 

They're cut from the same cloth as the bastards that wrote Mary the disciple out of the bible, tried to dominate pagan cultures that dared treat women as true equals, stone women that are deemed to have committed adultery, insist that a woman isn't in control of her own body...

 

These men have always been with us and they've been pushing this narrative for a very, very long time. The GOP is just keeping the tradition alive that started with the old testament blaming women for our exile from paradise.

 

So sure, we could try and look at the particular pathologies of the characters involved, try and read some tenor regarding the whole party, but the fact is specificity doesn't help you here. Basically, these men are pigs - all of them. Without exception. Equally intimidated and terrified by women who dare to stand toe to toe with them. They're little men. Pathetic.

 

But they'll always be with us in one form or another.

 

Make fun of them. Pity them. Wonder how small their penises actually are.

 

They're only worth your contempt, scorn and laughter - anything more grants far too much respect to their onerous ancient phobias.

post #11 of 19

It's true they are the latest in a long line trying to bring back some fantasy fifties, but this time they seem to have more determination.  Years have been spent cultivating anti-feminist feelings in young men who have now grown up.  With feminists on the back foot they feel now is the time to push back in a big way.

Rebecca Watson has this great list she's been updating for a couple of years now (which I can't find in text form, dammit.  She may have got it from somewhere else too) It's  of all the anti abortion, contraception and sex education laws US republican states have rammed through just in the last few years.  The list is loong and just keeps growing, it's amazing.

Where they think things will be ruled un-constitutional, they use chicanery like this to get effective bans instead.

I'm not an expert, but it really does look like they are making this their big grass-roots push/ wedge/ strategy/ cause.  And if the primaries were any indication, it's working.  You look at Ron Paul weaseling his way around questions on the topic, just to keep that slice of the vote (when a supposed libertarian should be saying a clear yes all the way.  Of course Ron Paul weaseling in general isn't really much of a surprise to anyone)

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Holy shit, are they serious???

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not that I am ever too surprised when a conservative preacher says some crazy shit, but it really does seem that much of the 'crazy' has been cranked to "11" since Obama got into office.

 

from a video uploaded in March of this year

Jesse Lee Peterson, Conservative Preacher, Says Women's Voting Rights 'One Of America's Greatest Mistakes'

 

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"I think that one of the greatest mistakes America made was to allow women the opportunity to vote," Peterson said to his congregants in the 12-minute video. "We should have never turned that over to women. There are more women out there voting than men now … and these women are voting in the wrong people. They are voting in people who are evil, who agree with them, who are going to take us down this pathway of destruction."

 

oh, the irony....a black man saying (preaching!) that women shouldn't be able to vote....
 

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Holy shit, are they serious???

 

And here we thought Brick Tamlin was just an exaggeration on how dim some newscasters are.   F&F proves me wrong.   Or maybe it's a science experiment to see how much dumb the FOX News audience can take.

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Originally Posted by VTRan View Post

not that I am ever too surprised when a conservative preacher says some crazy shit, but it really does seem that much of the 'crazy' has been cranked to "11" since Obama got into office.

 

from a video uploaded in March of this year

Jesse Lee Peterson, Conservative Preacher, Says Women's Voting Rights 'One Of America's Greatest Mistakes'

 

 

oh, the irony....a black man saying (preaching!) that women shouldn't be able to vote....
 

 

Doesn't this idiot relealize the entire point of a vote is somebody gets what they want and somebody else doesn't?  If he doesn't like it he should cease to vote...or move to a dictatorship country.  Christ on a stick.

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So has anyone pointed out that for all the Right's screaming about the muslims trying to bring Sharia Law to America, all of this anti-women's rights legislation that they're backing is kind of boiling down to Sharia Law?

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So has anyone pointed out that for all the Right's screaming about the muslims trying to bring Sharia Law to America, all of this anti-women's rights legislation that they're backing is kind of boiling down to Sharia Law?

 

well, for the most part, the Right are unfamiliar with the idea of 'self reflection' and the concept of 'irony' is completely lost on them, so.....

 

perhaps all the anti-Sharia law bullshit is some sort of sub-conscious love of the idea....I think this could also apply to all the anti-homosexual rhetoric that they espouse.

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It's not Sharia law when we do it, guys.

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Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but I wasn't quite sure where to put this now that the "Sex" forum is kaput:

 

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/04/29/why-is-the-teen-birth-rate-falling/

 

The teen birth rate has been cut in half since 2007, thanks to wonderful things like sex education and contraceptives (among other things).

 

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