Game Of Thrones Season 2: Throne Harder SPOILER FREE - Page 2

"Act surprised" is a strange choice of words.  Like people who care about spoilers are only pretending to react things as they happen?

I'm as spoilerphobic as they come, and I think the BOOKS DO NOT EXIST rule is a great one, as there is lots that can be gleaned simply from what the readers do and don't find it necessary to tiptoe around.

That being said, the post preview thing is a quirk of the site's design, and it's great if people want to be conscious of it when they're posting about major revelations in popular works, but I don't think anyone can be faulted for not doing so.

And expecting a 2nd season thread to be free of 1st season spoilers is simply asinine.  Was anyone even asking for that?  It's not spoilers if you decide to pick up a story midstream.

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Originally Posted by Doc Happenin 

JESUS DIES.

 

Wait...no, no. But come on, this is starting to remind me of uptight parents who are trying to protect 'the children' at all fricking cost. This is CHUD, dammit, not a PTA meeting. Self censor, sure, but christ almighty, take some responsibility. It's not our job to protect you from every little detail of this one property so you can act surprised for the 2 seconds it takes to sink in. Fuck, I knew Qui-Gon was going to die because of the damn Episode 1 soundtrack listing and it was still awesome and sucked when it happened.

 

Alls I'm saying, if it happened in season 1, tough. Wait all of 2 minutes before someone else posts in the thread and changes what's seen on the General Forum posting.

Great, I guess that means that those of us who post in the spoiler thread no longer have to watch what we post because this is CHUD, dammit, not a PTA meeting. If you happen to see spoilers of a certain character's death from book 2 in the last post preview then it's not our fault because it's not our job to protect you from spoilers.
 

We already restrain ourselves from posting big spoilers in the first sentences of our posts in the spoiler thread, I guess that was way too much to ask of you guys.

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Originally Posted by Bluelouboyle 

Hilarious interview with Emilia Clarke on Sky here in the UK. The airhead bimbo says to her "hmm, he (Karl Drogo) is somewhat agressive in bed, then you fall in love with him, get pregnant, lose the baby, he dies. I can only assume you weren't drawing on real life for this role".
WTF? Clarke just says "err, noo" and looks at her like she's an imbecile.

She's great in that season 1 commentary track. Someone else on Sansa's and Joffrey's King's Landing scene: "I think, pretty sure, that was Sophie's first screen kiss."

Emilia Clarke: "My first screen kiss was a rape!"

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Originally Posted by stelios 

Again, if it's aired it's fair game. People who still haven't watched the show can't be all that interested in it.

Is it ok to post book spoilers because those who still haven't read the books can't be all that interested in A Song of Ice and Fire? A Clash of Kings is 14 years old at this point, you must not be a real fan if you haven't read it yet.

Oh fer cryin' out loud...

Geez... 

- No book talk

- Season 1 is fair game

Is the point of this thread really that hard to understand???

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Originally Posted by stelios 

 

Are you being "funny" right now?

Did you never first start watching a show long after its air date? Would you have liked it if you knew about big spoilers long before you started watching it?

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Originally Posted by Joseph P. Brenner 

 

Did you never first start watching a show long after its air date? Would you have liked it if you knew about big spoilers long before you started watching it?

I think if I hadn't read Game of Thrones or watched season 1, but went into the TV forum, glanced at some vague mentions of "Dragons" without being able to read a full sentence about it, I wouldn't be too terribly surprised, and probably wouldn't even consider it a spoiler. But it's cool, yo. I learned my lesson.

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Originally Posted by Parker 

I think if I hadn't read Game of Thrones or watched season 1, but went into the TV forum, glanced at some vague mentions of "Dragons" without being able to read a full sentence about it, I wouldn't be too terribly surprised, and probably wouldn't even consider it a spoiler. But it's cool, yo. I learned my lesson.

Well I wrote "I guess everyone knows about the dragons at this point though" when I first replied to you. It wasn't directed at that specific "spoiler" but at the last post preview in general.

Your heart's in the right place, Brenner, but you're taking up a cause no one's asking you to. As soon as someone genuinely complains about being spoiled for season 1 of the TV show by seeing some plot nugget in the preview post of the season 2 thread, begging folks to show some courtesy for the poor year-late viewer, feel free to jump in with a big fatuous I TOLD YOU SO. Til then, I think you can lay back.

ETA: Folks being careful with spoiler space in the GoT-for-readers thread is and has been sincerely appreciated, though, so thanks to everyone in there for being cool. If folks really do need that in this thread for season 1 events, it's not too difficult a courtesy, I just think it's unnecessary at this point.

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Originally Posted by Trav McGee 

Your heart's in the right place, Brenner, but you're taking up a cause no one's asking you to. As soon as someone genuinely complains about being spoiled for season 1 of the TV show by seeing some plot nugget in the preview post of the season 2 thread, begging folks to show some courtesy for the poor year-late viewer, feel free to jump in with a big fatuous I TOLD YOU SO. Til then, I think you can lay back.

I don't think it should even be about complaints, it's just common courtesy when dealing with this shitty last post preview feature. Take The Wire for example. Believe it or not, there are still people who haven't seen the greatest television show ever made, and they're just starting to watch it. Hell, Confessions of a Wire virgin. was started after the show ended by the same guy who just said this:

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Originally Posted by stelios 

Again, if it's aired it's fair game. People who still haven't watched the show can't be all that interested in it.

 

I guess that means Stelios wouldn't have minded if he saw spoilers for The Wire in this forum years before he finally started watching it.

 

And yes, I know that the last post preview came with the new redesign and that the example above wouldn't have actually happened.
 

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Originally Posted by Joseph P. Brenner 

I guess that means Stelios wouldn't have minded if he saw spoilers for The Wire in this forum years before he finally started watching it.

Can't you see, though, that it's just kind of rude to expect to remain unspoiled long after a property is out? Are we going to put spoiler-spaces in discussions about Psycho, or The Sixth Sense?

http://letstalkabout.tv/2012/03/television-actors-join-forces-to-establish-official-rules-for-spoilers/

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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer 

Can't you see, though, that it's just kind of rude to expect to remain unspoiled long after a property is out? Are we going to put spoiler-spaces in discussions about Psycho, or The Sixth Sense?

 

http://letstalkabout.tv/2012/03/television-actors-join-forces-to-establish-official-rules-for-spoilers/

 

It's certainly rude to go into a thread about a show and expect to remain unspoiled on shit that has already aired.  In unrelated or general threads, it's courteous to throw up a warning before you talk about the ending to something off topic, which is usually as easy as mentioning the title of the thing at the beginning of the sentence where you talk about it.  This was all much simpler before the post preview feature set our house against itself, but such is the price of progress, I suppose.

I guess I'll spoil some stuff from Sirens then. Go to 5:04.

THE KING IN THE NORTH

Brenner, are you seriously *still* trolling about this outrage of yours? Just drop it already.

I'm not even sure what the hell he's talking about. I come to the site often, i've never seen this post preview feature.

Wrong forum.

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Originally Posted by Joseph P. Brenner 

Take The Wire for example. Believe it or not, there are still people who haven't seen the greatest television show ever made,

 

 

People still haven't seen Breaking Bad?

No, Joseph said it right the first time.

Also, this little spat has been fun to watch.  Can it keep going?  I love it when people get puffed up on the Internet.

Clearly it's just Game of Thrones Anticipation Anxiety that's ratcheting up the tension. By Friday, folks will be told what to do with their genitals; on Saturday will enter the ethnic slurs and assorted derogatory remarks regarding family trees; and sometime before Sunday afternoon, someone'll probably be Godwinned. By 11:00 pm Sunday evening, no one will remember, because there'll actually be something to talk about.

definitely looking forward to his reviews

Oh! That guy's back! The official GOT reviewer of note. Now it's an event.

http://www.rollingstone.com/videos/new-and-hot/game-of-thrones-stars-gather-for-rolling-stone-shoot-20120330

Re: The spoilers thing - how about people do what people always did before spoilers became the Boogeyman, exercise a bit of common friggin' sense and just stay out of discussions about the season if you think it might cover stuff you haven't seen yet? Go off, do what you need to do, catch up in your own time and you can join in later. If you're that keen, you won't miss too much. If you stick around, and you get spoiled a couple of times, take it on the chin and accept it as the risk you took reading the thread. If you're scared that reading a discussion will puncture your own dearly-held sense of story experience, you mustn't have been holding it that dearly because you clicked on the thread in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Workyticket 

Re: The spoilers thing - how about people do what people always did before spoilers became the Boogeyman, exercise a bit of common friggin' sense and just stay out of discussions about the season if you think it might cover stuff you haven't seen yet? Go off, do what you need to do, catch up in your own time and you can join in later. If you're that keen, you won't miss too much. If you stick around, and you get spoiled a couple of times, take it on the chin and accept it as the risk you took reading the thread. If you're scared that reading a discussion will puncture your own dearly-held sense of story experience, you mustn't have been holding it that dearly because you clicked on the thread in the first place.

Except it was never about people reading this thread and being spoiled, it was about people who haven't seen the show yet being spoiled by seeing the last post previews in the television forum. If you just start your post off with "Ned's death was..." then that's visible to everyone who looks at the television forum. Again, it's something the people who post in the spoiler thread already keep in mind before posting. We could easily write about book 2 stuff by starting our posts with "X's death was..." and then all of you would see it in the television forum without even clicking on the spoiler thread. It's just a small thing to ask of you guys but I guess I didn't expect that most of you would lose your shit at the mere suggestion of it.

If it's such a big deal, change the forum design

Can we just drop it? Brenner, stop making such a big deal about it. Everyone else, don't post major spoilers for S1 in the first sentence of your post. Problem solved. Everyone happy. The end.

T minus 7 hours to actually having something to talk about.

I propose we spend this time sharing what objects we would most like to use to smash Joffrey's shitty little face in.  While you can't go wrong with a trusty ball peen hammer, I think that given my druthers, I'd lay him on the ground and drop a radiator from a third story balcony directly on his eyes.

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Originally Posted by The Prankster 

Can we just drop it? Brenner, stop making such a big deal about it. Everyone else, don't post major spoilers for S1 in the first sentence of your post. Problem solved. Everyone happy. The end.

 

T minus 7 hours to actually having something to talk about.

How am I the one making a big deal out of it? This is what I posted on the first page.

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Originally Posted by Joseph P. Brenner 

The first sentence or so of your posts end up in the last post preview. I guess everyone knows about the dragons at this point though.

Then everyone went crazy saying that people should expect season 1 spoilers when reading a season 2 thread even though that has nothing to do with what I wrote. I'd say that the rest of the posters are the ones who actually made a big deal out of it. Workyticket was the one who brought it up again 3 days later and he still doesn't even understand what it was about.

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Originally Posted by Schwartz 

I propose we spend this time sharing what objects we would most like to use to smash Joffrey's shitty little face in.  While you can't go wrong with a trusty ball peen hammer, I think that given my druthers, I'd lay him on the ground and drop a radiator from a third story balcony directly on his eyes.

I'd take a piss-drunk Tyrion by the ankles and repeatedly bash Joffrey with him. I know dwarf tossing is a terrible, demeaning thing, but it's technically not tossing and it's for a good cause.

Something bizarre is happening: Joffrey is such an enormous, hateful asshole that people seem to be developing a weird, punk-rock admiration for him. Actually it seems to be mostly manifesting itself in praise for Jack Gleeson at the moment, but you watch.

Wouldn't surprise me if he appeals to that glutted vein of "fuck everybody who isn't me" narcissism that's so strong today. I think in some sense, plenty of people have that fantasy of getting over on everyone. There's money, and then there's fuck-you money. Joffrey has the latter. Outside of that, people have always loved a good prick. Joe Pesci is now legend for that shit. 

To Enjoy a evil hateful sadistic charecter is one thing, to admire him and make some kind of anti hero out of him is another.

One of my favorite villians in film is Scorpio in the first "Dirty Harry" movie, but no way do I admire the bastard.

I think what is going to upset some viewers who have not read the books is..and I don't think this is a spoiler...that a number of new charecters are going to take center stage for a lot of the series and some of the charecters in the first season will have reduced roles.

Cant wait for season two to start! I've been lucky enough to avoid getting spoiled so far and season one has done a really great job introducing me to the game of thrones world and characters. Im most intressted in the black watch and what will happen with them, Lannisters vs Stark second.

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Originally Posted by comtrend 

Cant wait for season two to start! I've been lucky enough to avoid getting spoiled so far and season one has done a really great job introducing me to the game of thrones world and characters. Im most intressted in the black watch and what will happen with them, Lannisters vs Stark second.

Night's Watch.

Here's the viewer's guide for anyone who didn't see it last year, it's all season 1 stuff.

http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/#!/map/

http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/#!/guide/houses/

http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/#!/guide/appendix/

It'll probably be updated right after the season 2 premiere ends.

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Originally Posted by The Prankster 

Something bizarre is happening: Joffrey is such an enormous, hateful asshole that people seem to be developing a weird, punk-rock admiration for him. Actually it seems to be mostly manifesting itself in praise for Jack Gleeson at the moment, but you watch.

Indeed, I found myself enjoying Little Lord FuckPants almost right out the gate. The high watermark of my disgust was when he has the butcher's boy slaughtered; after that he displays self-loathing at his own cowardly actions and actually makes a pretty good point to Cersei about how they should unite all armies into one. After that, I was pretty much onboard with the mini Caligula. 

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Originally Posted by dudalb 

I think what is going to upset some viewers who have not read the books is..and I don't think this is a spoiler...that a number of new charecters are going to take center stage for a lot of the series and some of the charecters in the first season will have reduced roles.

That seems unavoidable, given that several of the primary characters and prime candidates for the throne have already been killed off.

Man, when Games of Thrones comes back, it comes back fucking hard. Off to a grand start.

Yeah, that was friggin' wonderful.  Excellent start.

Very solid start.  Dinklage killing it as usual.  

I look forward to another gif of Joffrey getting slapped by Cersei.  

Peter Dinklage getting the first credit is awesome, by the way.

Well, that was the best episode of this show so far. It felt like they shot it differently than S1, it just felt so much bigger, but still grounded. Good stuff. Also digging how they're handling the dire wolves now. Robb's looked great in that scene with Jamie.

You know it's a great start for a season when the closing credits fade onto the screen and everyone in the room is all:  "What?  Wait!  FUCK!"

Too badass for words.