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post #601 of 635

Remember the story about how Manti Te'o's girlfriend and grandmother died on the same day and how it was inspirational and blahbity-blah? Well, apparently the girlfriend never existed:

 

http://deadspin.com/5976517/manti-teos-dead-girlfriend-the-most-heartbreaking-and-inspirational-story-of-the-college-football-season-is-a-hoax

 

Absolutely bizarre.

post #602 of 635
Carson Tinker should get to punch Te'o in the dick.
post #603 of 635
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Carson Tinker should get to punch Te'o in the dick.

Pretty sure Alabama turned him into a eunuch during the title game.

post #604 of 635

Mr. Beaks and FILM CRIT HULK are speculating on twitter that Te'o is gay and made up the fake girlfriend to cover.  So there's that.

post #605 of 635

I got that same vibe in the article when they described the relationship between him and Tuiasosopo. 

 

And God Bless Deadspin!  One of maybe two (Yahoo Sports) outlets that still cares about sports journalism (when they are not focusing on bullshit.)

post #606 of 635
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Mr. Beaks and FILM CRIT HULK are speculating on twitter that Te'o is gay and made up the fake girlfriend to cover.  So there's that.

 

That would at least be an explanation of some sort for something that otherwise would be completely fucking bizarre.

 

(Not that making up a dead girl to cover up being gay isn't sad and disturbing and bizarre, and a million other bad things; but it feels less opportunistic than doing it to try to cash in on a Heisman or something.  In some ways Te'o could at least be seen as a victim of the homophobic sports culture he resides in.)

post #607 of 635
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Carson Tinker should get to punch Te'o in the dick.

 

It's funny how many SEC fans can't seem to process any college football story without relating it back to their conference.  Not everything is about you.

post #608 of 635
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It's funny how many SEC fans can't seem to process any college football story without relating it back to their conference.

Sorry, he's the only player I know that actually had their girlfriend die recently. If you know of another, feel free to insert his name.
post #609 of 635
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That would at least be an explanation of some sort for something that otherwise would be completely fucking bizarre.

 

(Not that making up a dead girl to cover up being gay isn't sad and disturbing and bizarre, and a million other bad things; but it feels less opportunistic than doing it to try to cash in on a Heisman or something.  In some ways Te'o could at least be seen as a victim of the homophobic sports culture he resides in.)

Who's to say that it couldn't have been both?

post #610 of 635
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Who's to say that it couldn't have been both?

 

If it's true, I'm sure it would have become both as the lie snowballed and he saw how it could be used to his advantage.  But I think it would be weird to assume it started as a lie to cover up homosexuality and simultaneously a way of promoting his Heisman candidacy.  I mean one reads as a desperate maneuver by a scared kid, the other a very cynical scheme.

post #611 of 635
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Sorry, he's the only player I know that actually had their girlfriend die recently. If you know of another, feel free to insert his name.

 

Why does it have to be a player?  Why couldn't it be a whole line of dick punchers from all walks of life who lost people tragically?

 

Point is, he didn't do anything to your Crimson Tide player that he didn't do to millions who believed his story and were played for suckers.

post #612 of 635

Speaking of Beaks' twitter, this story is kind of depressing me, but funny is funny:

 

 

 Best I've seen was the suggested NYP headline: "No Te'o Dame".

post #613 of 635
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In an ironic twist, a former starting QB is transferring TO NC State instead of from there to Wisconsin.  Jacoby Brissett, who was part of the UF QB rotation in 2011, is transferring to NCSU now that Driskell is firmly entrenched as the starter.  The only game I saw him in was the FSU game, and he was not very good, but I think he was a FR, and he was a top recruit at the time.  So who knows.

post #614 of 635

This story is too nuts.  He had to be in on it.  He's the one who told the press his girlfriend died.  He also said when asked about contacting her parents or a picture of her that the family would prefer not to be public. 

 

So how far does he fall in the draft because of this?

post #615 of 635

The kid is a Mormon. I tend to think he was made a fool of by others. Now the fact that the school knew about this last month and didn't reveal it worries me. Not on a Penn State level, but still.

post #616 of 635
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Wait, Mormon or Moron?

post #617 of 635
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This story is too nuts.  He had to be in on it.  He's the one who told the press his girlfriend died.  He also said when asked about contacting her parents or a picture of her that the family would prefer not to be public. 

Yup, totally in on it. Blaming this on a catfish scheme is a blatant lie, in my eyes. He did it to rev up sympathy and increase his media profile to try and win the Heisman. Hell, teammates are now coming forward (anonymously) to say that they knew something was fishy.
post #618 of 635

I don't know that I buy the Heisman excuse. I mean, his grandmother died the same day that his invisi-lady bit the dust...Was he trying to raise the body count to ensure he'd get a trophy? The past has already shown that getting a Heisman doesn't make you a lock for NFL riches.  Besides, the guy was supposedly dating her for three years. I think it's been established that the guy probably isn't the best at long-term thinking. Plus, when I was in college, the last thing on my mind was being in a platonic long-distance relationship. The whole thing comes across as Te'o hiding something. He's either dishonest, crazy, or the most gullible human being alive. It's a lose/lose/lose for him.

 

Also, if the "love of my life" died, I'd probably go to her funeral. I'm an old softie that way.

post #619 of 635

Didn't he say they met after a game? And his father said they met the girl multiple times on the holidays? I gotta believe he made the whole thing up for whatever reason. Dude probably has some issues.

I have a group of friends, all brothers, and their family is huge HUUUUGE Notre Dame fans. This news has crushed them.

post #620 of 635

It's not just this, it's all the issues swirling around the program since Kelly got there.  Not that this has anything to do with him, but the euphoria of the season allowed fans to tune everything out, and then when Bama spanked them that sort of went away.  I always hated the sanctimonious Notre Dame fan, but I did like believing the program was about as "on the up and up" as one could be.  Not because it made me feel superior to anyone else, that shit is ridiculous, but only because it made rooting for them a little easier.  Now?  It makes feeling good about finishing the season in the top five feel even more pointless than when I was just sort of indifferent about it because they were terrible, and where they finished didn't really matter.

post #621 of 635
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this story is kind of depressing me, but funny is funny:

 

post #622 of 635
Thread Starter 

Wait for it...

 

 

post #623 of 635

This is fantastic, courtesy of the LSU fans, Tiger Droppings (they smell like corndogs, but they have some unbelievable photo shop skills):

 

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2028103/teo_medium.gif
 

and

 

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/sportfishsc/manti2_zps99434ed6.png

post #624 of 635

Ha.  That Usual Suspects one is classic.

post #625 of 635

Te'o talked to espn

 

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8859077/manti-teo-notre-dame-fighting-irish-denies-being-part-hoax-late-girlfriend

 

 

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• He lied to his father about having met Kekua, prompting his father to tell reporters that Te'o and Kekua had met. Several media stories indicated that Te'o and Kekua had met. Te'o insisted they never did.

• He tried to speak with Kekua via Skype and FaceTime on several occasions, but the person at the other end of the line was in what he called a "black box" and wasn't seen.

• He planned to meet Kekua in person several times, including in Los Angeles and Hawaii, but on each occasion she called off the meeting or sent others in her place.

• The first time he met Tuiasosopo was in Los Angeles. Notre Dame beat USC there on Nov. 24.

• A group of people connected to Tuiasosopo showed up at the team hotel, after curfew, for the Discover BCS National Championship Game in Miami. Te'o said he knew they were at the hotel because the group took photos in the hotel lobby. Someone in the group called Te'o, saying they were waiting for Kekua to join them in the lobby and asking if she was with him. Te'o then hung up. Te'o said it affected his play in the game, where Notre Dame lost to Alabama 42-14.

• Te'o was never asked for money during the plot, but Kekua once requested his checking account number in order to send him money. Te'o did not provide his account number.

A South Bend Tribune report described Te'o and Kekua touching hands during an in-person meeting in 2009 at Stanford, but Te'o said that never happened and he didn't know Kekua until 2010.

"I'd never told anybody that I've touched her hand," he said.

 

 

 

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Te'o said he altered his stories so his family and others would think he did met Kekua in person.

"That goes back to what I did with my dad," Te'o said. "I knew that -- I even knew, that it was crazy that I was with somebody that I didn't meet, and that alone -- people find out that this girl who died, I was so invested in, I didn't meet her, as well. So I kind of tailored my stories to have people think that, yeah, he met her before she passed away, so that people wouldn't think that I was some crazy dude."

Their relationship started, Te'o said, when Kekua sent him a friend request on Facebook the winter of his freshman year at Notre Dame. The two then had intermittent contact over the phone.

"My relationship with Lennay wasn't a four-year relationship," Te'o said. "There were blocks and times and periods in which we would talk and then it would end."

Te'o said their relationship escalated after Kekua told him her father had died.

"She told me her dad passed away, and I was there. I was that shoulder to cry on. And I kind of just naturally cared for the person," Te'o said. "And so our relationship kind of took another level. But not the kind of exclusive level yet."

He said he was told Kekua was in a car accident April 28 and was in the hospital. He said he was told she was in a coma.

"I would ask to talk to her, and the only communication I had was through Noah, her brother, and he used her phone," Te'o said. "And he would put me supposedly right next to her mouth and I could hear the ventilator going. And she would be breathing. ... They said every time I was on the phone, they would tell me the nurse noticed that whoever was on the phone with her, she must have recognized the voice, because she would start breathing quicker and I could hear on the phone."

 

 

 

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Te'o was told Kekua awoke from the coma in mid-May. From that point, the relationship became more serious and they spoke on the phone every day.

 

"Every day. I slept on the phone with her every night," Te'o said. "... I'd be on the phone. And she had complications from the accident, and she said the only thing that could help her sleep was if I was on the phone. So I would be on the phone, and I'd have the phone on the whole night."

Schaap asked why Te'o didn't go to see Kekua in the hospital.

"It never really crossed my mind. I don't know. I was in school," he said.

Te'o talked often about a "spiritual connection" between him and Kekua. Te'o discussed a ritual where he and Kekua exchanged scripture readings. Soon, his father and mother joined in. They used the SOAP method of study, which stands for scripture, observation, application, and prayer.

"We'd slack off sometimes, and my dad would say, 'Who is slacking now? Whose turn is it to send the scripture?' But for the most part it was every day," Te'o said.

Te'o also said that his mother "had had lengthy conversations with her about her experiences about being a convert (to Mormonism), and what she thought and shared with Lennay things to look for and things that she should do."

 

 

 

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On Sept. 12, his mother and father called Te'o to tell him his grandmother had died. He said Kekua called him after his grandmother's death.

 

"I was angry. I didn't want to be bothered," he said. "So Lennay was just trying to be there for me. I just, I just -- I just wanted my own space. We got in an argument. She was saying, 'You know, I'm trying to be here for you.' I didn't want to be bothered. I wanted to be left alone. I just wanted to be by myself.

"Last thing she told me was 'Just know I love you.' "

 

Later that day, Te'o was told Kekua had died from leukemia. He said he was in the Notre Dame locker room when he got the call.

 

There is some more and I stopped it a part I just don't buy.  How do you talk to someone in the morning then find out in the afternoon they died from leukemia and believe it?  Leikemia isn't a heart attack.  How dumb can you be?

 

And with all the technology available there is no video chat?  8 hours on the phone?  Te'o can afford that as a college student but not to send her a webcam?

 

His die hard religous beliefs are the only thing that lead me to believe this is possible and that he could be this stupid.

post #626 of 635

At this point I believe he was duped, at least initially.  I also believe he knew at some point and lied to perpetuate the story because of some combination of embarrassment and liking the attention.  When he knew doesn't matter all that much to me.  Even if it was early on in the season, he wasn't really a Heisman candidate then, so it would have been more just about people giving him all kinds of love and attention... which is still deplorable, given the circumstances, but that's actually kind of consistent with being a dumb kid caught up in an out of control lie.

 

What really bugs me about this story is how the media is choosing to focus on it.  The Tom Renaldi's and Rick Reilly's of sports journalism are the worst.  They push these "human interest" stories that are so centered around a broad-based emotional hook designed to appeal to the largest audience possible, that they really lose the whole "human" part of the equation.  Humans are messy, complicated, and never defined by one thing.

 

And now they're going on the air saying they should have been more thorough.  But the problem isn't really that this particular story wasn't properly vetted.  The problem is in the entire practice of trying to find tales of hardship and tragedy in order to spin them into bullshit hero-worship to be consumed by the masses for readers or ratings.

post #627 of 635

Except Te'o fed this story to the media in the dirst place.  He could have refused to talk about it in subsequent interviews.  The sympathy factor for him should be very low.

post #628 of 635

Most of these stories, real or not, are "fed" to the Reillys and the Rinaldis.  It goes through a grapevine and eventually gets to them.  The way they cover the stories is all on them, though.  But I do not sympathize with Te'o at all, and I don't believe I ever claimed anyone should.

post #629 of 635
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post #630 of 635

Once again, Deadspin says what we've all wanted to say for years.

post #631 of 635
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Holy. Crap. The NCAA basically has to re-do the whole Miami case "due to improper conduct in the Miami investigation."  Apparently NCAA had the attorney representing Shapiro (the guy that gave UM all the money, gifts, etc.) ON IT'S PAYROLL.  How fucking stupid are you as an organization?  Is there an NCAAA to investigate them?  The good news for Miami is that they can play in a bowl game the next two years, but the bad news is they have to wait even longer now to see what's going to happen.

post #632 of 635

I just read that NCAA story. Un-fucking-real. I'm sure Frank Haith is thrilled to be able to coach Mizzou for 2 more years, at least. 

post #633 of 635

Bruce Feldman posted a great follow-up on the NCAA's curious timing:

 

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/bruce-feldman/21604690/timing-of-ncaas-eyes-opening-is-curious

 

Meanwhile, Jay Bilas is trashing the NCAA on Twitter:

 

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Isn't NCAA making head coaches, those in charge, responsible for assistants' actions? Uh, Mr. Emmert, about this happening on your watch...
post #634 of 635

So, National Signing Day happened. Fav story: The mom that took her son's letter of intent to Arkansas and absconded with it with the hope that he'd change his mind.

 

Vols ended up with a Top 20 recruiting class, which puts them at 10th in the SEC. (Crazy!) Naturally, many Vol fans are pissed because they're delusional and still think that it's 1993.

post #635 of 635

I'm pretty much blown away by Ole Miss.  I didn't think I'd see something like this until one of the Manning's had a kid who was old enough to sign letter of intent.

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