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post #51 of 480
6/22/12 at 10:32am

At this point I'm actively disliking news about this. Because they are reminding me I can't watch it yet.

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post #52 of 480
6/22/12 at 11:18am

yeah, there's some amazing stuff thats gonna happen in this flick. I'm lucky enough to know a few peeps that are working on it.

 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

There's even a sequence where this badass SWAT-esque team has to enter one of the monster's dead bodies through it's open mouth, only to have to take on T-Rex-sized 'babies' in it's cavernous stomach. 

The information I keep getting relayed to me is fucking badass, there's gonna be alot of kickass sequences in this flick. 

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post #53 of 480
6/22/12 at 2:22pm
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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer View Post

From Del Toro:

 

"We had a Tokyo scene that we shot here in Toronto. We had several Hong Kong scenes and a few scenes in Australia, through the television. We briefly see the kaiju take over San Francisco. The whole Pacific Rim needs a sense of danger."

 

"We take the battles far and above! Two or three of them happen in places where there have never been a battle between kaiju and robots. From the bottom of the ocean to the atmosphere of the Earth. We have a battle in a storm at sea. Every battle we try to do differently. One is seen from the point of view of a single person. We never cut away from that point of view."

 

 

I am so there.

 

*sploosh*

 

 

This is sounding like a huge-budget version of Godzilla: Final Wars

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post #54 of 480
6/23/12 at 4:08am
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Originally Posted by MrBananaGrabber View Post

 

*sploosh*

 

 

This is sounding like a huge-budget version of Godzilla: Final Wars

 

Gotta give it the *sploosh*

 

 

I hate to say it, but getting Pacific Rim over At the Mountains of Madness is looking like the better deal. For GDT especially.

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post #55 of 480
6/23/12 at 4:52am
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Anybody know which comic this was from? I've been a bit lax on BPRD for a few years now.

 

This is from Chapter 5 of the King Of Fear series. King of Fear is labled #14 in the B.P.R.D trade paper backs.

 

In the scheme of things it's fairly recent. After that book, they relable them "B.P.R.D New World" and start the numbering at #1 again.

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post #56 of 480
7/16/12 at 8:42am

Sooooo, anyone have the comicon footage?  Because I really want to see the not-Guiron Kaiju.

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post #57 of 480
9/12/12 at 6:30pm

Dear Warner Brothers,

 

If you wanna make a good kaiju movie, listen to El Gordo and not China.

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post #58 of 480
9/12/12 at 6:39pm

Did something happen?

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post #59 of 480
9/12/12 at 6:41pm
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Originally Posted by MrBananaGrabber View Post

*sploosh*




This is sounding like a huge-budget version of Godzilla: Final Wars

This sounds just incredible. Wow. Wow!
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post #60 of 480
9/12/12 at 8:52pm

This sucker is getting post-converted to 3D.

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post #61 of 480
9/12/12 at 8:53pm

Gah! I was looking forward to an IMAX 2D show for a change.

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post #62 of 480
9/12/12 at 9:58pm
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Originally Posted by Dr Syn View Post
I hate to say it, but getting Pacific Rim over At the Mountains of Madness is looking like the better deal. For GDT especially.

 

You may be onto something there. I feel like ATMOM might have suffered from John Carter syndrome--no matter how well done it might have been, it's a pulp ur-text that's been thoroughly stripped bare by later imitators, particularly ALIEN. I'm sure GDT would have brought something new to the table, but still, this is sounding way more epic and exciting.

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post #63 of 480
9/13/12 at 6:14am
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Originally Posted by S.D. Bob Plissken View Post

This sucker is getting post-converted to 3D.

 

Expected.

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post #64 of 480
9/13/12 at 6:20am

I don't mind it, but if the filmmaker doesn't want it, then I'm fully against it.  This is a 2D for me.

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post #65 of 480
9/13/12 at 8:40pm

Yeah, I don't think Guillermo is much of a fan of 3D in general.  I recall him being rather dismissive of the format even when it was clear that The Hobbit duology would be done that way while he was attached.

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post #66 of 480
9/13/12 at 8:59pm
Wouldn't Mountains have been done in 3D with Cameron producing?
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post #67 of 480
9/13/12 at 9:13pm

Haha, probably.

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post #68 of 480
9/13/12 at 9:38pm
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Originally Posted by cccc View Post

I don't mind it, but if the filmmaker doesn't want it, then I'm fully against it.  This is a 2D for me.

 

Right on. I mean, I get the business sense behind this-- 3D makes a ton of money, particularly (maybe mostly?) overseas in countries like China that only allow American films to be screened if they're in 3D or IMAX-- but "business" and "creative" are two different disciplines entirely, and I know which one I care about more. I'll check this out in 2D. Fuck the future 3D-conversion press screening.

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post #69 of 480
9/14/12 at 6:04pm
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Originally Posted by cccc View Post

I don't mind it, but if the filmmaker doesn't want it, then I'm fully against it.  This is a 2D for me.

 

Yup.

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post #70 of 480
9/14/12 at 7:42pm
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post

Wouldn't Mountains have been done in 3D with Cameron producing?

Yes and he was excited to use it to bring the horror of impossible geometry to the screen.
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post #71 of 480
9/14/12 at 9:44pm

As sad as it makes me, so was I. 

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post #72 of 480
9/16/12 at 11:55am
I wasn't knocking the idea. I too think it would have been really awesome.
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post #73 of 480
9/16/12 at 9:38pm

Hopefully it still will be.  I honestly don't believe GDT when he says he's given up on it.

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post #74 of 480
11/23/12 at 1:46am

I'm both thrilled and terrified of how big of a risk this film is. The designs look original, GdT says their robots and monsters are "the size of 20 football fields", the cast is great, fresh and diverse. But the concept could be too far out and awesome for general audience and the film doesn't have star actors. Inception was also an original film with a out there concept, but it had Leo. I'm 100% sure Pacific Rim will kick ass. But will it resonate with the audience? Fingers crossed.

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post #75 of 480
11/23/12 at 2:12am

Well, you could probably argue that Avatar didn't really have any big actors either but they managed to sell it on the technology involved and the name of the director. I'm just hoping there's many more people out there like myself who just want to watch Idris Elba kick a giant alien's ass whilst he's inside of a gigantic robot.

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post #76 of 480
11/23/12 at 2:22am

That's a good example but like you wrote, Avatar had Jim Cameron as its star. Avatar also balanced its sci-finess with a very familiar and safe plot: "Dances With Wolves in space". Maybe I'm proven wrong when Legendary starts selling Pacific Rim as "Gone With The Wind with giant robots".

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post #77 of 480
11/23/12 at 6:44am
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Originally Posted by Virtanen View Post

I'm both thrilled and terrified of how big of a risk this film is. The designs look original, GdT says their robots and monsters are "the size of 20 football fields", the cast is great, fresh and diverse. But the concept could be too far out and awesome for general audience and the film doesn't have star actors. Inception was also an original film with a out there concept, but it had Leo. I'm 100% sure Pacific Rim will kick ass. But will it resonate with the audience? Fingers crossed.

Sometimes a movie fails and I just sigh and think, "Ah, I guess it was too awesome for people." I fear this may be the case again.

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post #78 of 480
11/23/12 at 6:46am

INDEPENDENCE DAY had nobody of real value at the time, in front of or behind the camera.
 

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post #79 of 480
11/23/12 at 8:14am
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Originally Posted by Andrew Merriweather View Post

INDEPENDENCE DAY had nobody of real value at the time, in front of or behind the camera.

 

Big Willie had just blown up with Bad Boys (and he was already Fresh Prince), and I specifically remember him being extremely popular at the time so getting him was a pretty big deal.
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post #80 of 480
11/23/12 at 8:16am

Independence Day had the incredible one-two punch of Robert Loggia and Harvey Fierstein.

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post #81 of 480
11/23/12 at 8:26am

It also had EXPLODING WHITE HOUSE.

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post #82 of 480
11/23/12 at 8:47am

If PACIFIC RIM can deliver on the action spectacle it promises, it will do well. Del Toro just needs to concentrate a little less on his personal fetishes and swing for the cheap seats. 

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post #83 of 480
11/23/12 at 11:40am

At this point, if it gets released on time next year, I'm considering that a success...

 

Just because it's GDT, and he's become the new Terry Gilliam where doomed projects are concerned.

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post #84 of 480
11/23/12 at 12:40pm

I feel the same way about SKY CAPTAIN AND THE WORLD OF TOMORROW.  Man do I love that movie.

 

Anyways, I could give two fucks about this movie resonating with Average Joe Shithouse.  It's a GdT movie featuring giant robots fighting giant monsters!  If the first teaser trailer doesn't get people excited than I don't know what will.

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post #85 of 480
11/23/12 at 1:14pm

I know we worry sometimes about stuff being too far inside the geek wheelhouse, but come on, giant robots are NOT a hard sell with the general populace. This absolutely looks like standard Hollywood blockbuster fare--we know GDT's going to make it cool and idiosyncratic, but the basic pitch is can't-lose.

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post #86 of 480
11/23/12 at 1:25pm

Maybe this will be the movie that makes me love GDT as much as the rest of nerdom does?  It sounds like it will be.

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post #87 of 480
11/23/12 at 2:37pm

I was hooked on GdT since seeing CRONOS on video many years ago. He's only gotten better since then.

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post #88 of 480
11/23/12 at 3:48pm
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Big Willie had just blown up with Bad Boys (and he was already Fresh Prince), and I specifically remember him being extremely popular at the time so getting him was a pretty big deal.

Independence Day made Will Smith. Will Smith did not make Independence Day. Smith was popular, but he was TV-popular, and this was a time when being a TV actor very rarely made a successful jump to film, especially as a leading man. Honestly, Goldblum was the biggest name in the cast.

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post #89 of 480
11/23/12 at 7:50pm
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Originally Posted by Greg Clark View Post

Independence Day made Will Smith. Will Smith did not make Independence Day. 

 

Not sure where you got that from...I certainly didn't say it.

 

Andrew said ID4 had no one of any real value at that time and that's simply untrue.  Smith was very popular when that film came out.  He was a nearly a household name.  Bad Boys had pretty much made him a sex symbol by then, just not the mega A-lister floating next to planet Tom Cruise...that shot in Bad Boys with him running with his shirt open pretty much made him an action star, as Smith has said in interviews (and the guy knows his own career).  He said his life changed after Bad Boys...ID4 was massive, but it was just stage 2 of that rocket his career had become in 1995 (one year before ID4).  Bad Boys was even more important because he was not part of an ensemble, he pretty much led that film (even more than Martin Lawrence).  Bad Boys made Smith and Michael Bay...Bay didn't get The Rock because Bad Boys was some modest blip on the radar...

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post #90 of 480
11/23/12 at 8:55pm
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post

It also had EXPLODING WHITE HOUSE.

 

True. That image in the trailer was as big a drawing point as Smith, from what I remember. Pacific rim may not have as shocking an image as that to sell itself on, but from the sounds of it I doubt it'll have too many problems providing some attention-grabbing visuals.

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post #91 of 480
11/27/12 at 11:49am
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Originally Posted by The Prankster View Post

I know we worry sometimes about stuff being too far inside the geek wheelhouse, but come on, giant robots are NOT a hard sell with the general populace.

I bet the makers of BATTLESHIP were thinking the same thing before the tracking numbers came in. "But it LOOKS like TRANSFORMERS 4!"

 

I have much more faith in GDT to deliver however.

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post #92 of 480
11/27/12 at 1:35pm

According to IMDB, Idris Elba is playing a character named Stacker Pentecost.

 

Stacker Pentecost, you guys.  I am naming my first child Stacker Pentecost.

 

Also I had forgotten Charlie Day is in the cast.

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post #93 of 480
11/27/12 at 1:46pm
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Originally Posted by MrBananaGrabber View Post

 

Also I had forgotten Charlie Day is in the cast.

Hopefully he's not playing barely functioning dim bulb who screams all his lines. I like Day, but most of his work outside of It's Always Sunny seems to him merely doing his schtick from It's Always Sunny.

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post #94 of 480
11/27/12 at 1:58pm
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Also I had forgotten Charlie Day is in the cast.

That is my one concern here, the double threat presented by two terrible actors named Charlie.
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post #95 of 480
11/27/12 at 2:14pm
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Originally Posted by Dr Harford View Post


That is my one concern here, the double threat presented by two terrible actors named Charlie.


Is Charlie Hunnam not a good actor? Odd. I've just come from another thread where people keep throwing his name around for The Joker and saying that he's great in Sons Of Anarchy which I've never watched. Are they wrong? He's a bad actor?

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post #96 of 480
11/27/12 at 3:29pm
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Is Charlie Hunnam not a good actor? Odd. I've just come from another thread where people keep throwing his name around for The Joker and saying that he's great in Sons Of Anarchy which I've never watched. Are they wrong? He's a bad actor?


The Joker bit is probably because in Undeclared he gave off a strong Heath Ledger vibe.  I like Charlie Hunnam, but he's not Heath Ledger.  He is a decent actor though.  The flack is most likely because he's British trying to sound like an American biker in Sons of Anarchy, which doesn't always work.  Aside from the accent issues, he's fine.

 

I'm actually excited to see Charlie Day in this, because I remember an article saying he's playing a scientist in a serious role.  It's notable because Day said he rarely gets to play a non-Charlie role, so I want to see what he can do with it.

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post #97 of 480
11/27/12 at 3:39pm
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The Joker bit is probably because in Undeclared he gave off a strong Heath Ledger vibe.  I like Charlie Hunnam, but he's not Heath Ledger.  He is a decent actor though.  The flack is most likely because he's British trying to sound like an American biker in Sons of Anarchy, which doesn't always work.  Aside from the accent issues, he's fine.

 

 

Eh, I think his accent is fine; it's never like "wow, that sounds TERRIBLE" - it's your basic flat British version of an American Midwestern accent, with that kinda throaty rumble Hugh Laurie and Ewan McGregor like to do. 

 

 

 

Hunnam is blessed with a great supporting cast in Sons but he's the main character, so he has to do a lot of the heavy lifting, and given the utterly ridiculous plot twists Sutter throws in, keeping things credible is an impressive feat. 

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post #98 of 480
11/27/12 at 3:47pm

Demetri Martin played a scientist in Contagion, so stranger things have happened.  I look forward to a not-Charlie role for Day.

 

I hope they let Elba have his native accent.  I thought he sounded terrible in Prometheus.  He was ok in the scene in Shaw's quarters, but other then that, nope.

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post #99 of 480
11/27/12 at 8:01pm

Yeah, I'm hoping both he and Hunnam have their natural accents, but I doubt any major Hollywood action film these days would be willing to go forward with two British leads.  Any examples that prove me wrong?

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post #100 of 480
11/28/12 at 1:32am
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Originally Posted by MrBananaGrabber View Post
Just because it's GDT, and he's become the new Terry Gilliam where doomed projects are concerned.

That's a bit much. GdT's projects fall apart during pre-production. Once cameras are rolling he's golden.

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