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Looper teaser. Check it out!
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Looks DOPE!  Loved the script, and from what I can see of it I love Levitts attempt at young Willis. 

post #3 of 31

Fuck off with the dubstep, though.  Enough.

post #4 of 31

Looks cool. Also there's no dubstep in that trailer.

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Whatever.  Enough of whatever you want to call "that".

post #6 of 31

Heh.  I would have gone with 'Rock' myself.

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I hate Rian Johnson, time travel movies blow and Joseph Gordon Levitt can't act his way out of a wet paper bag. And I wouldn't touch Emily Blunt with a barge pole.

 

By the way, happy Opposite Day everyone. Oh, I mean shitty Opposite Day everyone.

post #8 of 31

Amazing trailer. Hope the film lives up to it. Also kinda cool how JGL seems to be getting on a number of solid director's favorites/go-to lists.

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As much as I love time travel movies, I'm having a hard time getting past the premise of mobsters sending guys back in time to get killed. What's the purpose of this? Isn't it simpler to just whack them in the present (well, the future) and dissolve their bodies in acid or something? What if one of the bodies is found in the past and the fingerprints or DNA of this dead adult matches a living kid? Is this premise explained believably in the script?

post #10 of 31

Damn good trailer. I didn't realize the Brunofication of Levitt extended to his voice; JGL sounds pretty good here, so here's hoping he can sustain it over the full running time. Looking forward to this one.

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As much as I love time travel movies, I'm having a hard time getting past the premise of mobsters sending guys back in time to get killed. What's the purpose of this? Isn't it simpler to just whack them in the present (well, the future) and dissolve their bodies in acid or something? What if one of the bodies is found in the past and the fingerprints or DNA of this dead adult matches a living kid? Is this premise explained believably in the script?



That was the very first question that popped into my head. Has it been explained in the promotional material or interviews?

 

Looks like silly fun though, and Bruno seems invested at least.

post #12 of 31

Yeah I HATE time travel movies, I really do. But this one will be an exception.

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What about Back to the Future? Bill and Ted? Twelve Monkeys? The Terminator? Back to the Future Part II?

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As much as I love time travel movies, I'm having a hard time getting past the premise of mobsters sending guys back in time to get killed. What's the purpose of this? Isn't it simpler to just whack them in the present (well, the future) and dissolve their bodies in acid or something? What if one of the bodies is found in the past and the fingerprints or DNA of this dead adult matches a living kid? Is this premise explained believably in the script?

In the future it's virtually impossible to dispose of a body due to certain implants, modern tracking devices, futuristic crime scene investigation, what have you.  Since time travel does exist in the future, naturally it's very very illegal and only the most connected, in this case powerful mob people, have access to it.  They send bodies back to Loopers to an easier time to dispose bodies, with bags over their heads, bound by their wrists, and with four gold bars strapped to their backs as payment for the Looper.  The looper instantly kills the mark with a blunderbuss(described as devastating within ten feet, useless outside of twenty) and then incinerates the body almost instantly afterwards.

 

It's never established why the mob HAS to send people back to exactly thirty or so years ago, instead of say Jurassic Park, but hey.  It's a movie, just go with it.

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Do they explain why deep-voiced Bruce Willis used to be a soprano?

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Do they explain why deep-voiced Bruce Willis used to be a soprano?



Are you kidding me?  Did you listen to JGL's voice in the trailer?

post #17 of 31

Nothing against JGL but I kinda wish they Benjamin Button-ed Bruce Willis and had him act opposite himself. I guess technology is just not there yet. 

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Do they explain why deep-voiced Bruce Willis used to be a soprano?



Bruce Willis has never been deep-voiced, you're thinking of his Planet Hollywood baritone buddies Sly and Arnie.

 

Bruce's voice is characterised by mid range croakyness. EXACTLY like Young Bruce in this trailer.

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In the future it's virtually impossible to dispose of a body due to certain implants, modern tracking devices, futuristic crime scene investigation, what have you.  Since time travel does exist in the future, naturally it's very very illegal and only the most connected, in this case powerful mob people, have access to it.  They send bodies back to Loopers to an easier time to dispose bodies, with bags over their heads, bound by their wrists, and with four gold bars strapped to their backs as payment for the Looper.  The looper instantly kills the mark with a blunderbuss(described as devastating within ten feet, useless outside of twenty) and then incinerates the body almost instantly afterwards.

 

It's never established why the mob HAS to send people back to exactly thirty or so years ago, instead of say Jurassic Park, but hey.  It's a movie, just go with it.


Um, so why aren't the bodies traceable if they're killed in the past? The crime scene and whatever is still technically there.

 

The makeup job takes me out every time I see it. I don't think it's necessary. Voice and expression, body language should be enough, no?

 

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I guess my big question is why they don't just send a note like "Hey Mr. Looper, please shoot the baby at 123 Fake St. in the face, he's gonna grow up to be a snitch. Thanks, the Future Mob." Honestly though, time travel is such a mess of a concept that I don't mind a little Bill & Ted-ing as long as the final product is entertaining.

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Um, so why aren't the bodies traceable if they're killed in the past? The crime scene and whatever is still technically there.

 

The makeup job takes me out every time I see it. I don't think it's necessary. Voice and expression, body language should be enough, no?

I'm guessing the past CSI techs don't even know what the tracing tech looks like.  It would be like showing somebody from 1970 an Iphone.  Besides, the cops in the past don't even know there is bodies to look for, the Loopers kill their marks instantly.  They can't trace the bodies in the future because technically they vanish into nothingness.

 

 

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I guess my big question is why they don't just send a note like "Hey Mr. Looper, please shoot the baby at 123 Fake St. in the face, he's gonna grow up to be a snitch. Thanks, the Future Mob." Honestly though, time travel is such a mess of a concept that I don't mind a little Bill & Ted-ing as long as the final product is entertaining.

This is kind of addressed, but I won't go into detail for the sake of avoiding any spoilers. 

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I'm guessing the past CSI techs don't even know what the tracing tech looks like.  It would be like showing somebody from 1970 an Iphone.  Besides, the cops in the past don't even know there is bodies to look for, the Loopers kill their marks instantly.  They can't trace the bodies in the future because technically they vanish into nothingness.

 


The movie looks incredible, but I don't think you should try rationalize it too much. There are easier ways of making a body disappear forever (see: Breaking Bad) than transporting it into the past with a bunch of gold.

 

 

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I guess my big question is why they don't just send a note like "Hey Mr. Looper, please shoot the baby at 123 Fake St. in the face, he's gonna grow up to be a snitch. Thanks, the Future Mob." Honestly though, time travel is such a mess of a concept that I don't mind a little Bill & Ted-ing as long as the final product is entertaining.


I'm assuming that's because you can't change the past.
 

post #23 of 31

One of the more memorable and brutal scenes from the script involves directly changing the present to affect someones future.  That's as close as they get to changing the past.

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I'm puzzled by the lack of Bruce Willis in this trailer. You'd think they'd want to emphasize him.

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Originally Posted by Splatoon View Post

I guess my big question is why they don't just send a note like "Hey Mr. Looper, please shoot the baby at 123 Fake St. in the face, he's gonna grow up to be a snitch. Thanks, the Future Mob." Honestly though, time travel is such a mess of a concept that I don't mind a little Bill & Ted-ing as long as the final product is entertaining.


Because any mob dealing with these people they want to kill would also be affected by their premature death in the past (since they never would have dealt with the person in the first place, messing up their own lives).  My guess is screwing with timelines too much causes lots of problems.

 

Say you want someone in the past to kill your friend.  If they do, you will never have met your friend, changing your own life as a result, maybe for the worse.  It's too risky.  The mob may not be killing their friends, but if they've had any dealings with them, they would be affected too.

post #26 of 31

Very cool. I must admit, Levitt in the makeup is a little strange at first, but he's got the whole voice going, and my eye fixed to his look in the trailer, so I imagine it won't be much of an issue in the film. More than anything, I want this film to put Rian Johnson on shortlists so he can keep making movies. That has to happen. As for time travel as a subject? It's a logically fucked concept, but it's been used to startling and thematically rich effect in the past, so it's not like you're setting yourself up for a fail just by taking on the notion.

 

 

post #27 of 31

If we're going to start picking apart the film-logic before we've even seen the movie, my biggest questions would be:

1) Doesn't Bruce Willis already know what's going to happen, since he has already experienced everything JGL is going to do as a younger version of himself?

2) Doesn't the mob already know this plan is fucked from the start, since these events have already happened? 

 

Kind of fries your brain like an egg.

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Originally Posted by JuddL View Post

If we're going to start picking apart the film-logic before we've even seen the movie, my biggest questions would be:

1) Doesn't Bruce Willis already know what's going to happen, since he has already experienced everything JGL is going to do as a younger version of himself?

2) Doesn't the mob already know this plan is fucked from the start, since these events have already happened? 

 

Kind of fries your brain like an egg.


This is the causal loop problem time travel movies always run into.  The only way to have time travel make sense is the parallel universe time travel concept, where the person traveling is automatically taken to a parallel universe as not to cause temporal paradoxes.    But this poses a dramatic problem in that the person traveling is not affecting his actual timeline, rendering his actions almost meaningless...this is why filmmakers usually opt not to use it.

 

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I'm guessing the past CSI techs don't even know what the tracing tech looks like.  It would be like showing somebody from 1970 an Iphone.  Besides, the cops in the past don't even know there is bodies to look for, the Loopers kill their marks instantly.  They can't trace the bodies in the future because technically they vanish into nothingness.

I'm not worried about present/past CSI or cops, I'm worried about future CSI.

 

EDIT: Ah, so because they time travelled, they are just gone from wherever they will be. But there is still technically a crime scene (albeit a real old one by the time the past catches up to the future) after they are killed. In the future, they have no way of "solving crimes" that took place in the past? A bit like archaeology I guess.
 

 

post #30 of 31

You are all making my brain hurt.

 

 

By the way, this looks fantastic.

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I'm not worried about present/past CSI or cops, I'm worried about future CSI.

 

EDIT: Ah, so because they time travel led, they are just gone from wherever they will be. But there is still technically a crime scene (albeit a real old one by the time the past catches up to the future) after they are killed. In the future, they have no way of "solving crimes" that took place in the past? A bit like archeology I guess.

They "Vanish" off the tracking grid when they go through time, and then they are shot, and then their bodies are immediately burned in a giant incinerator.  That being said, and I'm not 100 percent on this, but I don't think the past these guys get sent to turns into the exact future that has already took place.  There could be small changes that would negate an investigation.

 

Look, long story short, the easiest way to get rid of a body is to shoot it off to the past to be disposed of.  Just go with it.  This script was not Primer. 

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