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Is this Brad Garret's time to shine?
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1995 is excited about this news.

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Javier Bardem's non-union American equivalent, Jeffrey Dean Morgan, might fit the bill nicely as the DC anti-hero I stopped giving a shit about in 1990.

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So is Dwayne Johnson a safe bet?

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I don't see this working at all.

A Lobo DC animated film would be nice tho

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The best Lobo comics had a grungy, Heavy Metal-esque space punk vibe to them (or as Heavy Metal as you can get without being able to say fuck), and if that movie were getting made I'd be pretty stoked. This, not so much.

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So glad that this project is in the hands of producer Akiva Goldsman and the director of CATS AND DOGS: THE REVENGE OF KITTY GALORE.

 

The definition of a dream team.

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See Lobo vs Superman is what the reboot should have been.

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Another clueless question about comics:  What's Lobo and why do you guys hate him?

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Lobo is the comics equivalent of Twisted Sister. They were awesome when you were a preteen and you adorned your schoolbooks with drawings of their logo but then you grow up and become kind of embarrassed that you were ever into such hollow, garish, & juvenile music.

 

This analogy also works for Ratt & 2 Live Crew.


Edited by Art Decade - 4/21/12 at 4:12pm
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2 Live Crew.

 

That's all you had to say.  Got it.  Yikes.

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Twisted Sister yes, Ratt no. Frank Zappa was a fan of Warren Demartini's playing. You can disagree with me, but not Zappa.

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Maybe we're being too hard on Lobo. Really, at it's core, the character is basically Lemmy. It's not impossible to do something cool & smart with him. It all depends on how he's used. Lobo had his moments of clever Deadpool-esque satire in the "Lobo vs Santa Claus" comic but the character is embarrassingly juvenile when he appears as just a mayhem reigning "badass".

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That's all you had to say.  Got it.  Yikes.

 

That's not quite fair. Lobo is basically a spoof of gruff, grim and gritty characters like Wolverine, actually, he was specifically designed to make fun of Wolverine. I've read very little of him, but one story that sticks in my mind is Alan Grant and Martin Emond's Lobo / Deadman crossover, mostly because of the art and how sort of gonzo and silly it is. Essentially the ideal Lobo movie (if one just has to happen) would play like "Machete in Space" (if Machete didn't fucking suck).

 

This is very weird. They just about scraped the barrel for Lobo, but they can't for the fucking life of them put a Wonder Woman film together w/out making decisions for the character that make my brain scream and then mercifully abandoning the idea altogether. 

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Weird, Warner seems to be doing pretty great with Batman, why are they failing so hard with every other DC property?  

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Because many of their B-characters don't lend themselves well to cinematic interpretation*; Marvel's B-roster is simply stronger.

 

 

 

*More than any superhero character, Batman's library contains the most stories that you could translate to film w/out too much of an overhaul. 

 

 

 

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Ugh...I just remembered that Green Lantern existed.

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Still haven't seen that shit. As a DC comics fan (who doesn't really read superhero comics anymore, but still...) it's weird for me to say this, but the one character that DC has w/ serious cultural cache is Batman. Superman is essentially a figurehead for DC, Batman is the money. A Wonder Woman film can still be very successful (and I can pull all sorts of ideas out of my ass about how you can do it) but no one believes in her, and so it goes.

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Still haven't seen that shit.

 

Just rent Howard The Duck. It's basically the same movie.

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I would imagine Warner is looking at Disney/Marvel and The Avengers with envy.  What's up with the JLA movie?  Or is it a case of the tone of the characters not jiving.  I honestly cannot picture Nolan's Batman and Singer's Superman in the same movie.  Oh, wait, there is Snyder's version coming up...maybe that is why he said it's going to be dark and edgy like Nolan's Batman, so the tone is consistent for a teamup flick?  Who's in JLA anyway besides those two?

 

(I can totally google all this, but I prefer the eloquence of fellow chewers)

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I would imagine Warner is looking at Disney/Marvel and The Avengers with envy.  What's up with the JLA movie?  Or is it a case of the tone of the characters not jiving.  I honestly cannot picture Nolan's Batman and Singer's Superman in the same movie.  Oh, wait, there is Snyder's version coming up...maybe that is why he said it's going to be dark and edgy like Nolan's Batman, so the tone is consistent for a teamup flick?  Who's in JLA anyway besides those two?

 

(I can totally google all this, but I prefer the eloquence of fellow chewers)

 

 

Neither could Nolan, which is (if rumors are to be believed) part of the reason why the JLA movie that almost happened a few years ago, didn't. Nolan's Batman won't be in any hypothetical JLA movie, but a new universe Batman might. 

 

Superman

Batman

Wonder Woman

Green Lantern

The Flash

Aquaman

Martian Manhunter

 

This is the classic roster.

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The Justice League where Lobo filled in for Superman, who was trapped in a horrible future, was good. That had more to do with seeing Superman survive on his wits as opposed to what Lobo did. Lobo was good comic relief. He was a super powered tool.

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I've said this in countless threads but WB needs a guy like Kevin Feige to lay out a game plan & oversee the development of future DC tentpoles. I'd nominate Bruce Timm for that job, being that he's done wonders with the DCU in animation for the past 20 years. That JLU cartoon was aces.

 

It would be a smarter move than throwing $200m at a director who couldn't give less of a shit about a character.

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That's who Dianne Nelson was supposed to be. Not much going on there. As you can see, two of the characters in this picture have made it to the big screen on her watch, and no one is happy about it.

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Hahaha! Jonah Hex AND Green Lantern?!

 

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Yikes!

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Art Decade, Green Lantern is an...Excellent character!  It is a shame that Ryan Reynold's Hal Jordan was written as a...Whiny Loser, whom always quit everything he started.  Basically Hal Jordan is...Maverick from Top Gun!  Unfortunately that is not the way he was written.  I always hate to see a hero give up his powers, or quit later in a franchise.  But the...First Film in a proposed series, it was just ridiculous!  The last...20 minutes were...Great!  Punching the EEEEEEvil Alien Entity Paralax into the Sun was...Awe-Inspiringly Awesome!

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1995 is excited about this news.


As is Andrew Bryniarski.

 

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I nominate Rourke. And let Rob Zombie direct. Like that'll happen.

 

And I'm just gonna leave this here.

 

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It's baffling how Marvel have managed to get - by most accounts - a fantastic Avengers film made so relatively quickly while DC continue to fumble and flounder like amateurs. I mean, until the last decade, the Avengers were generally viewed as Marvel's poor man's version of the JLA yet now look at them. Meanwhile, DC are seriously considering a Lobo film? Really?

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Man, I'd kill for a Starman movie. With some clever condensing you could get all the good storylines into 3 movies I think. The Grand Guignol story and The Shade's WW2 flashback would make an awesome third movie to build to. You could probably make 2 1/2 out of the 3 movies with Green Lantern's budget. Just keep David Goyer chained in a cellar for the duration of production and we'll have no problems.

 

And Sandman too, of course. It would take a screenwriter with at least half a brain, and some real vision from the whole production team, but with the right approach, I think it could be huge. I mean, people love Gaiman, right? Studios love franchises? Why isn't this happening?

 

In between the movies, do some of the stand alone stories as TV events. Boom, cross-media phenomenon. Get Jim Henson's frozen brain (or Brian Henson) to make the TV stuff like 'The Storyteller', then somebody like Guillermo Del Toro for the movies.

 

 

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I've said this in countless threads but WB needs a guy like Kevin Feige to lay out a game plan & oversee the development of future DC tentpoles. I'd nominate Bruce Timm for that job, being that he's done wonders with the DCU in animation for the past 20 years. That JLU cartoon was aces.

 

It would be a smarter move than throwing $200m at a director who couldn't give less of a shit about a character.

 

Didn't I read that WB wanted Nolan to do that for them?

 

They just need to really want to make a JL movie and it just doesn't look like the want to. If they are serious about it they need to, this very instant, green light The Flash and Wonder Woman. Get the ball rolling on this thing and make it clear what's happening. Once those two are established Snyder's Superman franchise should (in theory) be sequel ready. As will Green Lantern, unless WB are done with any stand alone adventures for Hal. 

 

The final piece is the rebooted Batman. Get people excited for new Batman one year, then serve them up DC's The Justice League the following year.

 

It can't be as difficult as they are making it look.

 

 

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But after The Dark Knight Rises, are people people going to want to see a Batman reboot? Personally I've gone back and forth on if I'm going to see The Amazing Spider-Man. Now I'm back to I might rent it on Red Box.

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Holy shit, would I ever watch Machete Goes To Space. Hell, I'd at least rent Machete Goes To Space Camp.

Seriously though, if I were on Marvel or Disney's Board of Director's I'd be pushing for a Squadron Supreme cameo in one of their movies with a vengeance, just as a way of giving Warner Brothers the finger. Between the Cosmic Cube and the likelihood of Quasar being in the Guardians of the Galaxy line-up, that's two possible avenues to introduce Project Pegasus right there.
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But after The Dark Knight Rises, are people people going to want to see a Batman reboot? Personally I've gone back and forth on if I'm going to see The Amazing Spider-Man. Now I'm back to I might rent it on Red Box.

 

It'll happen. TDKR will clean up and WB will announce the "next exciting chapter in The Dark Knight legacy" the following week.

 

Spider-Man doesn't need a reboot (please see my moaning, complaining and crying on The Amazing Spider-Man thread) but Batman will need to be rebooted because it looks like Nolan is giving a definite story closer with Rises.

 

In addition to that I think WB will need to reestablish the tone of future Batman films. Nolan's aesthetic just cannot accommodate Aquaman. It just wouldn't work.

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But after The Dark Knight Rises, are people people going to want to see a Batman reboot? Personally I've gone back and forth on if I'm going to see The Amazing Spider-Man. Now I'm back to I might rent it on Red Box.

 

The difference here is that Spider-Man 3 was ill-received and not a trilogy-capper by design. The Amazing Spider-Man is concurrently the "apologia" and a serious gamble. It's not terribly difficult to reinvent Batman for another universe as the character lends himself well to a variety of interpretations, but on a personal note, after TDKR, irrespective of whether I like it or not, my interest in the genre goes into hibernation.

 

Also, fuck the superhero stuff, in the wake of Game of Thrones and The Walking Dead, DC has a potential television goldmine in their Vertigo imprint. Notably, 100 Bullets (which is apparently being developed for Showtime), Scalped, Transmetropolitan, Y: The Last Man, and Preacher are all diverse, attention grabbing pieces* waiting to be discovered and debated by TV junkies.

 

 

 

 

*If you want to get very, very risky, adapting Grant Morrison's fantastic The Invisibles for television would be interesting, possibly amazing with the right amount of talent and effort.


Edited by JacknifeJohnny - 4/22/12 at 3:51pm
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Holy shit, would I ever watch Machete Goes To Space. Hell, I'd at least rent Machete Goes To Space Camp.
Seriously though, if I were on Marvel or Disney's Board of Director's I'd be pushing for a Squadron Supreme cameo in one of their movies with a vengeance, just as a way of giving Warner Brothers the finger. Between the Cosmic Cube and the likelihood of Quasar being in the Guardians of the Galaxy line-up, that's two possible avenues to introduce Project Pegasus right there.

 

Just a few days ago, I was thinking about the possibility of Squadron Supreme showing up in a future Avengers sequel. That would be a big-time FU to DC.


Edited by John Matrix - 4/22/12 at 5:51pm
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Mike's Pants, I disagree!  The Amazing Spider-Man looks like a...Spectacular Re-Boot!  Peter Parker's...1st Gal Pal Gwen Stacy is in it, and she is played by Emma Stone, who will make people forget about Kirsten Dunce...err...Dunst as MJ!  If there is a sequel to the...21st Century Spider-Man directed by a real...WEBBhead in Marc, then to me Emma Roberts should play...MJ!  With Ms. Stone and Roberts, Sony would then have to advertise with Mars, to properly promote their...EM&EMmas!

 

 I do agree that Batman should get a reboot.  Maybe a Batman that doesn't want to quit as Bale's Wayne did in The Dark Knight!  After seeing Watchmen, I would get...Patrick Wilson for Green Lantern!  Also, Hal Jordan should be written as a cocky fighter Jock, not some wimpy whiny loser!

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Dammit, the more I think about this, the more I want a weird, hyperactive violent sci-fi mashup of Crank meets Total Recall, even though I know what we're likely to get is some limp "superhero with 'tude" version of the character. It's frustrating, because I don't automatically buy the "R rating is death" argument if they keep the budget within reason. Obviously there's been some commercial misfires (Punisher, Watchmen) but movies like Blade, Kick-Ass, Sin City, The Crow and V for Vendetta, seem to show the possibility is there for R-rated success if you're goal isn't Burger King toys. I don't need an R-rated Aquaman film, but with this type of character why not try and avoid the watered down garbage of a Jonah Hex?

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They just need to really want to make a JL movie and it just doesn't look like the want to.

 

Last year Robiniov (head of Warners) told the LA times they are planning a JLA movie for 2013 and that they are rebooting Batman after Nolan is done (he and Emma Thomas will produce, more than likely a vanity credit like Tim Burton's producer credit on Batman Forever).  Not much word happened after that, until a rumor several months later that the JLA movie would come after Superman and Green Lantern sequels...probably 2016 (Batman would probably be rebooted by then).  My guess is Warner got cold feet after the Green Lantern fiasco and knowing Bale isn't signed for another appearance in the suit, wanting to wait for sequels and reboots to be good enough to get people excited.

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Doesn't Bale's contract with Warner Bros. contain an option for a fourth, JLA/teamup-type movie, if the studio decides to go there? Could've sworn I read this somewhere not too long ago.

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Doesn't Bale's contract with Warner Bros. contain an option for a fourth, JLA/teamup-type movie, if the studio decides to go there? Could've sworn I read this somewhere not too long ago.

 

It's pointless because the 4th film is a reboot and the chances of Bale being Batman in any reboot is nearly zero.  That's the point of a reboot.  The JLA movie would include the rebooted Batman, not Nolan's incarnation, which Bale is part of.

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Still not counting Bale out of more unless they flat out croak his Bats/Bruce Wayne (Something noone honestly thinks will happen since they're pushing it so hard with the marketing) considering he did sign up for Terminator for the dough.

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I should be looking at the positive here.  If someone is dumb enough to think Lobo is a good property to develop now, nearly 20 years past his prime, maybe I'll get my Silver-Age Adam Strange movie.

 

How about Kamandi?  OMAC? The Forever People?  The Metal Men?  Dr. Midnight?

 

Wait!  I've got it! Diora Baird as Powergirl! 

 

$150 million weekend gross.

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Doesn't Bale's contract with Warner Bros. contain an option for a fourth, JLA/teamup-type movie, if the studio decides to go there? Could've sworn I read this somewhere not too long ago.

There's a lot of different stuff I've heard about this, but I believe Bale was signed for three Batman movies and one would possibly be a team-up picture, which will likely now never happen.

 

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MrBanannaGrabber, You're right!  Diora is such a...DDelightfully Well Rounded Baird!  She would bring alot of...Bounce to her role of Power Girl!

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maybe I'll get my Silver-Age Adam Strange movie.

 

 

Wait!  I've got it! Diora Baird as Powergirl! 

YES on both accounts.

 

Still waiting for my MAJOR BUMMER adaptation.

 

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Also, fuck the superhero stuff, in the wake of Game of Thrones and The Walking Dead, DC has a potential television goldmine in their Vertigo imprint. Notably, 100 Bullets (which is apparently being developed for Showtime), Scalped, Transmetropolitan, Y: The Last Man, and Preacher are all diverse, attention grabbing pieces* waiting to be discovered and debated by TV junkies.

 

 

Seriously we need a Scalped series right now.

 

post #47 of 79

An American Vampire TV Series would be great.

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The current run on Animal Man is pretty TV ready.

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Seriously we need a Scalped series right now.

 

 

Amen. It just needs a production team with the balls to cast real Native Americans. 

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This is a long shot. But when they do reboot Batman eventually, I would like to nominate Matthew Fox for taking up the Cowl.  Watching him play Racer X in Speed Racer made me realize how good he could be as Bats. 

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